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SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon

"Now, a big question you probably have is how a boy turned into Kadabra. This stumped me too, but then I realized the answer. It didn't happen. The dex seems to contradict this, as it states it as a fact. However, I believe the boy was never a boy in the first place! The dex states that Abra can make illusions. I believe that the boy was an Abra disguised as a boy by an illusion, and that his transformation into Kadabra was simply him evolving."


now, i reread the abra entry, and i dont think they were reffering to literal illusions. still, i dont think it is out of the relm of possibility for kadabra to be able to create illusions[/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]

Actually it's literally just GF referencing this. The 1996 Pokedex book specifies that dex entry

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In game the dex entry is awkwardly abridged for RG, so note of this being a popular tale got chopped
Later entries retcon it to simply be rumors/theories. Otherwise it's entirely fictional in universe initially
 
Common sense

Ironic you used that phrase when literally nothing about the Porygon situation is, itself, remotely common sensical

No, but - it's cowardice, really. That's what I think is ultimately the reason behind Porygon still being MIA. Porygon very much could be brought back without any major controversy. The incident was nearly thirty years ago, I guarantee no-one cares. If anything it'd be a positive look because there'd be loads of "Pokemon just brought back this beloved character"-type articles churned out by loads of outlets.

But they're likely just playing it safe because... well. There are over 1000 other Pokemon to use in the anime, so why run the risk of using Porygon and having some moron make a complaint about it. Better to just never have Porygon appear rather than have people refer to it as 'that Pokemon that caused seizures' every time it shows up.

There's no "sense" involved because it wasn't a logical response, it was a placatory token gesture that didn't actually change anything. It was an overreaction at the time and remains one, but they were likely motivated by the US seemingly refusing to air the episode.

In an online Q&A with the late voice actress Maddie Blaustein (who voiced Meowth in the English dub), said that 4Kids had produced and completed an English dubbed version of the episode (with the seizure-inducing flashes assumingly edited out), however, due to the previously imposed ban on the episode, it was still not allowed to go to air (and as such has never been heard/seen by the public). Veronica Taylor (Satoshi/Ash's 4Kids English voice actress), on the other hand, claims they never dubbed the episode.
 
Because at this point when Porygon does come back, it will come back with articles like "After 30 years after causing a seizure incident that lead to industry-wide animation guideline reforms, Porygon has returned to the anime". "Porygon is BACK, and did not hospitalize hundreds of children like it did last time!" "Ummmm actually Pikachu caused the seizures"

Even before accounting for more "personal" (forthisahugefacelesscompany) reasons like not wanting to remember the time the franchise nearly died because of it they probably care significantly more about memory-holing that entire black mark if they can help it --it's one thing for it to just be common knowledge or talked about on their own terms vs we're quietly bringing it back and every single person on earth is about to hit us with a very public reminder about what happened-- so it's easier to just leave it banned outside the occasional world of Pokemon cameo.

This is the same industry that tries to disappear people/characters from performing if they do certain (primarily drug related, for some reason) scandals so it's in line with their usual MO regardless.
 
Alright, I need help on something.

So, I am making a project where I analyze every single pokemon from a biological standpoint. I have shown some of my work in the past. I have been able to use pseudoscience to explain away flames being tied to a Pokemon's life force, psychic powers, egg groups, biological bombs capable of surviving their own explosion, and even Magnetons entire existence. I have only made it to Farfetch'd, but even pokemon's most wild dex entries I don't see as an issue. But there is one pokemon that scares me to my core, one that I have no idea how to explain away. The lion slayer itself, Magcargo.
Shayy on X: magcargo's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't

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Now, Magcargos existence isn't mutually exclusive with the earths as you might think. According to someone much smarter than me, because of how small Magcargo is, it would not end all life on earth as we know it. That being said, anyone close to it would still be absolutely vaporized. I have been dreading this for so long, and I have no clue where to start. Does anyone have any idea for any explanation that would make sense in a world with laws of physics even remotely similar to ours that would allow this pokemon to not crispify anything within a mile of it.
 
Alright, I need help on something.

So, I am making a project where I analyze every single pokemon from a biological standpoint. I have shown some of my work in the past. I have been able to use pseudoscience to explain away flames being tied to a Pokemon's life force, psychic powers, egg groups, biological bombs capable of surviving their own explosion, and even Magnetons entire existence. I have only made it to Farfetch'd, but even pokemon's most wild dex entries I don't see as an issue. But there is one pokemon that scares me to my core, one that I have no idea how to explain away. The lion slayer itself, Magcargo.
Shayy on X: magcargo's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't

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Now, Magcargos existence isn't mutually exclusive with the earths as you might think. According to someone much smarter than me, because of how small Magcargo is, it would not end all life on earth as we know it. That being said, anyone close to it would still be absolutely vaporized. I have been dreading this for so long, and I have no clue where to start. Does anyone have any idea for any explanation that would make sense in a world with laws of physics even remotely similar to ours that would allow this pokemon to not crispify anything within a mile of it.
Since we know the temperature of Magcargo's "skin" isn't consistent due to part of it being solidified into a shell, it's possible that only a small part of it is 18,000° (like its heart or something) which provides the heat for the rest of its body, sort of like how the Earth has a giant 9,800° ball of metal heating it.

Lightning is 50,000° and there are so many Electric-types capable of pumping that shit out whenever so Magcargo probably isn't even the hottest Pokemon out there.
 
Alright, I need help on something.

So, I am making a project where I analyze every single pokemon from a biological standpoint. I have shown some of my work in the past. I have been able to use pseudoscience to explain away flames being tied to a Pokemon's life force, psychic powers, egg groups, biological bombs capable of surviving their own explosion, and even Magnetons entire existence. I have only made it to Farfetch'd, but even pokemon's most wild dex entries I don't see as an issue. But there is one pokemon that scares me to my core, one that I have no idea how to explain away. The lion slayer itself, Magcargo.
Shayy on X: magcargo's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't

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Now, Magcargos existence isn't mutually exclusive with the earths as you might think. According to someone much smarter than me, because of how small Magcargo is, it would not end all life on earth as we know it. That being said, anyone close to it would still be absolutely vaporized. I have been dreading this for so long, and I have no clue where to start. Does anyone have any idea for any explanation that would make sense in a world with laws of physics even remotely similar to ours that would allow this pokemon to not crispify anything within a mile of it.

This has been an endless debate for years.

If you can't accept the Pokedex as being either wildly hyperbolic or just plain mistaken (this is the same source that claims Ampharos' light is bright enough to be visible from space, that Alakazam has an IQ of 5000, and that a single flap of Lugia's wings is enough to cause a 40-day storm), I guess you could say it's Magcargo's internal temperature and its peripheral body temperature is lower? Like, maybe it has some sort of specialised organ like a sac which insulates that massive heat, allowing it to generate flame attacks while not burning up the whole world around it.
 
Alright, I need help on something.

So, I am making a project where I analyze every single pokemon from a biological standpoint. I have shown some of my work in the past. I have been able to use pseudoscience to explain away flames being tied to a Pokemon's life force, psychic powers, egg groups, biological bombs capable of surviving their own explosion, and even Magnetons entire existence. I have only made it to Farfetch'd, but even pokemon's most wild dex entries I don't see as an issue. But there is one pokemon that scares me to my core, one that I have no idea how to explain away. The lion slayer itself, Magcargo.
Shayy on X: magcargo's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't's body temp is 18,000 degrees, or twice the surface  temperature of the sun, just by existing tf any amount of lions supposed to  do about that? they can't

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Now, Magcargos existence isn't mutually exclusive with the earths as you might think. According to someone much smarter than me, because of how small Magcargo is, it would not end all life on earth as we know it. That being said, anyone close to it would still be absolutely vaporized. I have been dreading this for so long, and I have no clue where to start. Does anyone have any idea for any explanation that would make sense in a world with laws of physics even remotely similar to ours that would allow this pokemon to not crispify anything within a mile of it.

Its likely macargos internal temp, its heart or something thats 18,000 F, the suns internal temperature at its core is 27 million degrees Fahrenheit, so its very possible that macargos shell and goop insulates the 18,000 F and tunes it down to at most a couple hundred F, which is still quite hot but probably not enough to vaporize anything close to it, its probably close to a melting furnace in terms of heat, which is like 1,000F at most.
 
The pokedex also says that Lanturn produces enough light that it should instantly produce a black hole several times larger than the visible universe.

So either accept the pokedex is wrong or the pokemon world operates on fundamentally different physics than our own.
 
The pokedex also says that Lanturn produces enough light that it should instantly produce a black hole several times larger than the visible universe.

So either accept the pokedex is wrong or the pokemon world operates on fundamentally different physics than our own.
ive already accepted the latter to some extent, but I cant just say the rules are entirely different, because then literally none of this matters
 
So I have a theory I'm personally completely convinced of that I want to share. I can expand upon it more later but want to put out there to see if people have considered it much before.

It applies pretty much exclusively to Pokemon Red and Blue. All of it is retconned as of Let's Go, lots of the important points no longer make sense as early as Gold and Silver, and some parts don't even apply as soon as Yellow... though the details on why that is tie into changes made primarily for gameplay - see my favorite encounter post :)

So this is it -

The Fuschia City Safari Zone is a Pokemon Laundering Scheme run by Team Rocket. It is made to launder the exotic Pokemon they poach from outside the region to aspiring competitive trainers who are aiming to gain an edge over their competitors.

There are lots of little assumptions being made within this statement, so I'll lay those out as well.

- All Pokemon in the Safari Zone are poached. Every last one. More than that, almost every Pokemon that appears in the Safari Zone is not native to Kanto - even including several Pokemon which can be found in the wild far outside the Safari Zone. I am in fact saying Nidoran are invasive species in Kanto - there's a rabbit hole on this!

- Safari Zone Pokemon are designed to be powerhouses in battle. The best of them are among the strongest Pokemon in the game period, others directly outclass native counterparts as Dodrio and Venomoth do to Fearow/Pidgeot and Butterfree/Beedrill, and the some of the single-stage ones have the highest out of the box stats of anything you can catch in the game, excluding the legendary birds and Cerulean Cave. They also pretty much only appear in 'difficult' trainer battles - they make up a significant portion of the Rival, Giovanni, and Lance's teams, and the few NPCs that use them are mostly clustered at the end of the game.

-Team Rocket is connected to several Safari Zone Pokemon in some way independent of this theory. Giovanni himself uses Rhydon, Kangaskhan, and both Nidos, while the only NPC in the game with a Tauros is in his gym. Pinsir, Scyther, and Dratini are only ever available to the player through either the Safari Zone or the Rocket Game Corner, an establishment which is very obviously a money laundering front - both Nidos are also sold there. Lastly, it's a bit of a stretch, but Paras are only found in the wild in Mt. Moon, a location in which Team Rocket explicitly operated in the story - the ones in the Safari Zone might have been poached from Mt. Moon, the same as the Clefairy also sold at the Game Corner.

This has pretty massive implications on the intended story of these games, and the commentary they were meant to have - I'd imagine that's a large part of why so much of it is left to subtext. The portrayal of corruption in these games is especially fascinating in contrast to how hard the future games push the world of Pokemon as a utopia.
 
This has pretty massive implications on the intended story of these games, and the commentary they were meant to have - I'd imagine that's a large part of why so much of it is left to subtext. The portrayal of corruption in these games is especially fascinating in contrast to how hard the future games push the world of Pokemon as a utopia.
It's also interesting that no Gym Leaders even mention Team Rocket (besides Giovanni himself of course). There's an NPC in Saffron who says "It would be great if the ELITE FOUR came and stomped TEAM ROCKET!" but there's never any indication that the Silph Co. takeover is something they'd deign to concern themselves with (I actually quite like this characterisation because you get the vibe that each of the Kanto E4 besides maaybe Lance is obsessive about battling to a fault, becoming some combination of arrogant, insecure, isolated and bitter, and definitely too self-absorbed to help stamp out a criminal syndicate). The only time we see a police officer is in front of the burgled house in Cerulean, where he's clearly doing a terrible job!

Obviously this is likely a gameplay consideration more than anything, leaving Team Rocket as an obstacle for the player alone to overcome, but it can be read as adding an extra angle to the theming; namely, that corruption thrives in proportion to how apathetic and detached the authorities are (assuming they aren't actively complicit of course).
 
Though in the context of Gen 1 it's not like we get any real context about what "societal position" the leaders and E4 even have beyond being strong trainers with themed scattered across the land for children to beat up for silly badges. I saw someone a while back describe the whole league as basically a silly wrestling league and while that tweaks in future games its not the most inaccurate description. .

Hell can't even fully blame the leaders. if we take Saffron as presented to its most literal yeah Sabrina was doing nothing but neither was the karate dojo or our Rival. Who was just in Silph waiting for us. And no NPCs ever talk about any of that.

Wouldn't surprise me if thinking about that context is why the story writers at least made Lance significantly more involved in the Rocket plotline in Gen 2. "At least one of the strong characters should be involved, right?" and why they generally made a push to have more members do things outside their gyms in future generations.
 
This has pretty massive implications on the intended story of these games, and the commentary they were meant to have - I'd imagine that's a large part of why so much of it is left to subtext. The portrayal of corruption in these games is especially fascinating in contrast to how hard the future games push the world of Pokemon as a utopia.

Even back in Red/Green, invisible text in the rest areas says that the Silph chief was hiding in the Safari Zone implying he used to be the boss of the dungeon.
 
It's also interesting that no Gym Leaders even mention Team Rocket (besides Giovanni himself of course). There's an NPC in Saffron who says "It would be great if the ELITE FOUR came and stomped TEAM ROCKET!" but there's never any indication that the Silph Co. takeover is something they'd deign to concern themselves with (I actually quite like this characterisation because you get the vibe that each of the Kanto E4 besides maaybe Lance is obsessive about battling to a fault, becoming some combination of arrogant, insecure, isolated and bitter, and definitely too self-absorbed to help stamp out a criminal syndicate). The only time we see a police officer is in front of the burgled house in Cerulean, where he's clearly doing a terrible job!

Obviously this is likely a gameplay consideration more than anything, leaving Team Rocket as an obstacle for the player alone to overcome, but it can be read as adding an extra angle to the theming; namely, that corruption thrives in proportion to how apathetic and detached the authorities are (assuming they aren't actively complicit of course).
I wonder if this relates to why the Manga went with making the Kanto (and to an extent future-Johto) Elite Four outright antagonists alongside the Anime approach of making the League a Tournament instead of a Gauntlet against them. Essentially because they have their own Agenda they don't bother to interfere with Team Rocket until there's an intersection of their respective plans, with the general implication that the E4 are known/famous but not official as they are in the games.

This combined with Lance (and future Champions) more actively involving themselves with the conflict makes me wonder if the Game Devs wanted this apathetic implication to the governing bodies, had a different idea that didn't come across (like Team Rocket being more covert/under-the-radar until the player stumbled into them), or they just didn't realize/have time to rewrite those implications because of the whirlwind that Gen 1 was behind the scenes (and remakes retaining it for simplicity). It's possible to make all sorts of cases because Kanto differs in quite a few ways from future Team Plots (Team Rocket being more long-term/entrenched and not having a "goal" for endgame so much as continuing to operate and profit), so it could be a conscious change in direction as plausibly as corrected miscommunication.
 
I mean, I think it makes a lot more sense when you realize the position organized crime in general had in Japan in the 90s and the decades prior. Strict anti yakuza and anti police corruption laws have been passed in the time since release but at the time of the original games release, the idea that organized crime would be allowed to operate free from from interference from police as long as they didn't cause too much trouble where it mattered would not only be accepted, it would be strange for it to not be present.
 
This combined with Lance (and future Champions) more actively involving themselves with the conflict makes me wonder if the Game Devs wanted this apathetic implication to the governing bodies, had a different idea that didn't come across (like Team Rocket being more covert/under-the-radar until the player stumbled into them), or they just didn't realize/have time to rewrite those implications because of the whirlwind that Gen 1 was behind the scenes (and remakes retaining it for simplicity). It's possible to make all sorts of cases because Kanto differs in quite a few ways from future Team Plots (Team Rocket being more long-term/entrenched and not having a "goal" for endgame so much as continuing to operate and profit), so it could be a conscious change in direction as plausibly as corrected miscommunication.
My assumption has always been that the major components of the gen 1 games were conceptualized, scoped, and implemented independently without a ton of concern for how they'd work together in a single cohesive adventure. Or probably more likely: just not enough time to properly rewrite everything so that it all fit together more cleanly in the end.

There are four major components of the original Pokemon games: collecting all of the Pokemon species from around the game world, training up a team to become the Pokemon League champion, thwarting the villains' plot, and uncovering the details pertaining to Mewtwo's creation. They largely don't have much influence on each other as the game plays out. The Pokemon League and Team Rocket never interfere (or conspire) with each other. While Mewtwo has a decent amount of backstory shown to the player (and I've remarked in the past about how interesting and unique it is in comparison to later games), he's completely isolated from the other subplots; Team Rocket doesn't make any overt effort to capture and exploit him, and he is not utilized as a plot-centric boss encounter like later box legends are.

The rival's appearance in Silph Co is probably the one single element of the game that sticks out in this regard more than any other. Amidst all of the Team Rocket panic, he shows up not to help you fight Team Rocket, and not at the whims of the villains to help Team Rocket either, but... just to fight you. That's it. The encounter has been frequently memed for how hilariously inappropriate it is and what it says about Blue's character. It's so clearly something that was implemented without any concern for whether it makes sense narratively.

Even as a kid playing the game for the first time, it always struck me as kind of unusual that Team Rocket disappears a little over halfway through the game, with only a kind of half-baked last stand in the Viridian Gym later with Giovanni. The fact that the Pokemon League questline was instead used as the major mark of game progress--with the credits only rolling after becoming Champion--and that the Pokemon League and Team Rocket questlines never converged at all at any point was very odd to me for an adventure game, especially for an RPG. You'd expect "beating the bad guys" to be the driving force of narrative and conflict, after all. It feeds into theories about how things were originally scoped out. Dig through prototype notes and information and you'll find all manners of scrapped ideas pertaining to Silph Co, such as wild encounter data for Mewtwo in the early maps of the building, or the existence of the Silph Co Chief as both a boss encounter and having a "hideout" in the place that ultimately became the Safari Zone Surf TM secret house (as noted a few posts upthread). Just seems like they cycled through a whole lot of ideas for what would be the climax of the story before ultimately settling on what they did.

(It also strikes me as strange that, despite the structure and relationship of the questlines in gen 1 coming across as unplanned and cobbled together, so much of this structure was nevertheless maintained in future games. Like, it's always been really weird to me that the villainous team plots of gens 2, 3, and 4 always seem to resolve precisely at badge 7. There was a sort of novelty in the concept of Team Rocket not being the final adversary of gen 1, but the act of pigeon-holing every regional mob after them into such a similar place was just an incredibly weird and strict adherence to formula. It's also funny to me that if you choose to dawdle and take your time in DP, then it means that Sunnyshore City is stuck in a blackout for weeks on end because that's as much as they bothered to rationalize gating you out of that section of the map before dealing with Team Galactic.)

I also think one of the interesting things about SV is that it explicitly separates the three questlines: Victory Road, Starfall Street, Path of Legends, each of which corresponds to 3 of the 4 components of RB outlined earlier. You could argue that Area Zero then takes the place that Cerulean Cave and Mewtwo did for the 4th

The Fuschia City Safari Zone is a Pokemon Laundering Scheme run by Team Rocket. It is made to launder the exotic Pokemon they poach from outside the region to aspiring competitive trainers who are aiming to gain an edge over their competitors.

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-Team Rocket is connected to several Safari Zone Pokemon in some way independent of this theory. Giovanni himself uses Rhydon, Kangaskhan, and both Nidos, while the only NPC in the game with a Tauros is in his gym. Pinsir, Scyther, and Dratini are only ever available to the player through either the Safari Zone or the Rocket Game Corner, an establishment which is very obviously a money laundering front - both Nidos are also sold there. Lastly, it's a bit of a stretch, but Paras are only found in the wild in Mt. Moon, a location in which Team Rocket explicitly operated in the story - the ones in the Safari Zone might have been poached from Mt. Moon, the same as the Clefairy also sold at the Game Corner.
Even as a kid, it did not escape my notice that there was a ton of species overlap between the Game Corner redemption counter and the Safari Zone. It pretty clearly suggested that Team Rocket was involved with the Safari Zone. If not running it outright, then at least somehow extorting their business for their own purposes. It should also not escape notice that the Game Corner is the only place where you can obtain Porygon, a Silph Co creation. If you are to conclude that Team Rocket's ability to source Porygon stems from their relationship with Silph Co, then it's not a stretch to conclude that a similar relationship exists between them and the Safari Zone.

The fact that the Safari Zone is temporarily shuttered in gen 2, during Team Rocket's decline, also feeds into this idea, even if it's likely just an unintentional coincidence.
 
You know it's kind of funny how the GSC both Game Corners just operate complete with letting you buy Pokemon.

With gen 1, I always had the vibe that they were poached from elsewhere (including the Safari Zone). But both the OG gamecorner (which definitely isn't being run by the Rockets any more) and an entirely unrelated game corner in Johto that has 0 ties to anything nefarious still do so in Gen 2. Feels like an odd remnant of the early capumon concepts where you could just buy Pokemon, but it carried forward further than it probably should. Guess they realized it was a little weird so they stopped having game corners do that.
 
You know it's kind of funny how the GSC both Game Corners just operate complete with letting you buy Pokemon.

With gen 1, I always had the vibe that they were poached from elsewhere (including the Safari Zone). But both the OG gamecorner (which definitely isn't being run by the Rockets any more) and an entirely unrelated game corner in Johto that has 0 ties to anything nefarious still do so in Gen 2. Feels like an odd remnant of the early capumon concepts where you could just buy Pokemon, but it carried forward further than it probably should. Guess they realized it was a little weird so they stopped having game corners do that.
To me it always felt like the weird Mon-Collection version of kids being able to win a Goldfish or such as a Carnival (not sure if that's a thing outside really Rural America), since despite the Gambling overtones the GC is open to kids in a style more reminiscent of Arcades. The questionable element is the Game Corner's ties to Rocket, bringing the acquisition of the Prize Mons as a concern moreso than the transaction itself. Going back to the money-laundering front, it'd make a lot more sense if the Prize Corner legitimately was supposed to seem on the up-and-up as a Business until you learn who specifically is selling.
 
My assumption has always been that the major components of the gen 1 games were conceptualized, scoped, and implemented independently without a ton of concern for how they'd work together in a single cohesive adventure. Or probably more likely: just not enough time to properly rewrite everything so that it all fit together more cleanly in the end.

There are four major components of the original Pokemon games: collecting all of the Pokemon species from around the game world, training up a team to become the Pokemon League champion, thwarting the villains' plot, and uncovering the details pertaining to Mewtwo's creation. They largely don't have much influence on each other as the game plays out. The Pokemon League and Team Rocket never interfere (or conspire) with each other. While Mewtwo has a decent amount of backstory shown to the player (and I've remarked in the past about how interesting and unique it is in comparison to later games), he's completely isolated from the other subplots; Team Rocket doesn't make any overt effort to capture and exploit him, and he is not utilized as a plot-centric boss encounter like later box legends are.
Team Rocket doesn't make an OVERT effort to capture him, no, but it's implied that was one of their goals. They're after the Silph Scope and the Master Ball, which would let them catch MewTwo and Ghosts that counter MewTwo. They're after fossils in Mt Moon, which are good for ancient DNA/Ancient Pokemon, such as Mew. The manga and the movie also made Team Rocket heavily involved with creating and attempting to control MewTwo(not that those are canon for the games, but both of them doing it feels intentional). It's not proof and it's subtle, but it's not nothing, either.
 
Team Rocket doesn't make an OVERT effort to capture him, no, but it's implied that was one of their goals. They're after the Silph Scope and the Master Ball, which would let them catch MewTwo and Ghosts that counter MewTwo. They're after fossils in Mt Moon, which are good for ancient DNA/Ancient Pokemon, such as Mew. The manga and the movie also made Team Rocket heavily involved with creating and attempting to control MewTwo(not that those are canon for the games, but both of them doing it feels intentional). It's not proof and it's subtle, but it's not nothing, either.
That's kind of my point. Directly linking the Team Rocket and Mewtwo subplots very much strikes me as something that Game Freak would have done with more time and experience, not only because so much of it lines up with the characterization that's already present (Team Rocket's whole shtick is exploiting powerful Pokemon to boost their criminal enterprise) but also because it would be consistent with how every successive villainous team operated with each of their regions' local legendary Pokemon.
 
That's kind of my point. Directly linking the Team Rocket and Mewtwo subplots very much strikes me as something that Game Freak would have done with more time and experience, not only because so much of it lines up with the characterization that's already present (Team Rocket's whole shtick is exploiting powerful Pokemon to boost their criminal enterprise) but also because it would be consistent with how every successive villainous team operated with each of their regions' local legendary Pokemon.

And then they did end up giving Giovanni a Mewtwo in USUM, which always felt to me like passively admitting that yeah, it would’ve made sense to do, if only they’d thought of it at the time.
 
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