Project National Dex UU: Break this Core (Week 23) - Thundy + Scizor

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Frustration
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Dragon Dance
 
Reserving Gmolt of our own

Doesn't work again(i hate on paper theories)

Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch

The actual dark type for the job. Get a free against deoxys defense, Swords dance then click buttons according to situation.

After SD click Knock once, if deo was in and died, then click iron head on golt(ban btw i hate the amount of hax it brings to the tier). Otherwise click knock 2 more times and it should still work.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 398-468 (103.9 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 239-282 (62.4 - 73.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 160-190 (41.7 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+4 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 104+ Def Deoxys-Defense: 305-360 (100.3 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 SpA Moltres-Galar Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 79-93 (29.1 - 34.3%) -- 4.8% chance to 3HKO
 
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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower
- Psychic

Very simple strategy. Setup on Skarmory and 2ko, then hit Gastrodon with a OHKO.
Core's gone and you've now become a dangerous sweeper.

252 SpA Azelf Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 256-302 (76.6 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Azelf Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Skarmory: 510-600 (152.6 - 179.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 316-372 (74.1 - 87.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 SpA Azelf Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 624-736 (146.4 - 172.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Milo said:
Due to a single submission this week, Runoisch wins this week of Break this Core!
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That's so goofy

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Aggron-Mega @ Aggronite
Ability: Filter
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 120 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Fire Punch
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Walls Zarude and OHKOs Hatterene with that specific attack investment. The rest is invested into special defense to survive Hatterene's Mystical Fire

Defensive Calcs:
0 SpA Hatterene Mystical Fire vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 109-130 (31.6 - 37.7%) -- 92.3% chance to 3HKO
0 SpA Hatterene Mystical Fire vs. 252 HP / 120 SpD Filter Aggron-Mega: 109-130 (31.6 - 37.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Zarude Darkest Lariat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aggron-Mega: 63-75 (18.3 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
Offensive Calcs:
136+ Atk Aggron-Mega Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 244+ Def Hatterene: 318-374 (100 - 117.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
136+ Atk Aggron-Mega Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 202-238 (57.5 - 67.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

*edit: Defensive Calcs changed because they were incorrect.
 
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Celesteela @ Power Herb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Autotomize
- Air Slash
- Meteor Beam
- Flamethrower
 
Reserving Cobalion

Offensive Pivot Cobalion :cobalion: :rocky helmet:

Cobalion @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Iron Head
- Volt Switch / Stone Edge / Stealth Rock

Get a free switch and SD on zarude, proceed to click super effective moves. That's it

+2 252 Atk Cobalion Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hatterene: 306-360 (96.2 - 113.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

+2 252 Atk Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 195-231 (55.5 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Cobalion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zarude: 584-690 (166.3 - 196.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 SpA Hatterene Mystical Fire vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cobalion: 184-218 (56.9 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Zarude Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 75-88 (23.2 - 27.2%) -- 59.1% chance to 4HKO
 
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Changed to Celesteela
But I rechecked the rules; there's no rule that prevents you from voting yourself here.
 
Smh if it's really not part of it then it's my fault since most projects don't allow that anyways so i presumed it being so
 
Alright It's been a long hiatus but I am actually free from most things and we can finally resume!

Our winner last time was probably Celesteela so congrats to GiyuForPresident!

Our new core will be Thundurus-Therian + Scizor, a strong Volt-Turn core with our new suspect underway!

:ss/thundurus-therian: + :ss/scizor:

How will YOU break this core?

Scizor @ Buginium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 60 Atk / 192 SpD / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Roost

Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Grass Knot

I'll leave submissions open until around Monday morning EST so we can get back on schedule.
 
:bw/Rotom-Heat:
Rotom-Heat @ Heavy-Duty Boots :Heavy-Duty Boots:
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Overheat
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Nasty Plot

Rotom-Heat resists the entirety of the core's moves except Psychic on Thundurus-Therian, which isn't even STAB. Rotom-Heat sets up Nasty Plot on both Pokemon freely and only needs to do it once on Thundurus-Therian but would want to do it twice on Scizor to ensure an OHKO on Thundurus-T switching in. Nothing else to say except that missing Overheat would be extremely unfortunate.

252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 248 HP / 192 SpD Scizor: 712-840 (207.5 - 244.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 220-259 (73.5 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 438-516 (146.4 - 172.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Infernape @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Gunk Shot
- U-turn
252 Atk Choice Band Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Thundurus-Therian: 337-397 (112.7 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 1008-1188 (358.7 - 422.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO (chip)
 
Reserving Mega Aggron Aegislash
Maggron had to Sacrifice Bulk in order to OHKO them.

Write Up will be done on Sunday because I'm on a trip.
 
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:SS/Azelf:
Azelf @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Knock Off
- U-turn

I was unable to think of a mon able to switch into both of these mons while threatening them, so I settled for one that can OHKO both. Psychium Z Azelf is easily the best mon able to do so, and has recently become one of my favourite sets in the tier as a whole. Somewhat surprisingly, Azelf comfortably eats Sciz BP and is very likely to live +2, although allowing Azelf to take +2 BP is normally a mistake. Flamethrower always kills Scizor, and Z Psychic always kills Thundurus.

252 SpA Azelf Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 192 SpD Scizor: 372-440 (108.4 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 333-393 (111.3 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Azelf: 126-148 (43.2 - 50.8%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO
 
DD Dragonite(HDB) :dragonite: :heavy-duty boots:

Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dual Wingbeat
- Fire Punch
- Roost

No HP ice so we can't be RKilled by thundy even if we don't OHKO it as we have roost. Come in on scizor, dragon dance up and light up the stage with fire punches as we outspeed both mons.
btw calculator is bugged as it doesn't comply for the fact that boots ignores rocks, causing multiscale not having any effect but i'm not changing some calcs involving rolls since i don't want to waste another 20 mins
Calculation Notes:
Full HP - 323
Roost healing - 161

60+ Atk Scizor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 28-33 (8.6 - 10.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 49-58 (15.1 - 17.9%) -- possible 6HKO

60 Atk Scizor Savage Spin-Out (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 51-61 (15.7 - 18.8%) -- possible 6HKO

+2 60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 97-115 (30 - 35.6%) -- 33% chance to 3HKO

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 99-117 (30.6 - 36.2%) -- 46.9% chance to 3HKO

+1 252 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 0+ Def Scizor: 456-540 (132.9 - 157.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

No +2 Bullet punch and +2 Savage Spin-Out against broken multiscale because the only way to have that happen is miclick
Note: first calc is for when thundy attacks as dnite roosts

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 80-94 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 107-126 (33.1 - 39%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 124-147 (38.3 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 159-187 (49.2 - 57.8%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 160-189 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO

+1 252 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus-Therian: 167-197 (55.8 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Most of the sequnce listed are worst case scenarios after T1(opponent gets perfect predict)
Sequence 1: U-turn on DD(T1) ==> Tbolt on Fire Punch(T2) ==> Tbolt on roost(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4) ==> Fire Punch on BP(T4/ending)
Calcs: 33(Multiscale shielded U-turn) + 189(Tbolt) - 161(roost) + 126(Psychic) + 117(Bullet Punch) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
Sequence 2: SD on DD(T1) ==> Fire Punch on Bullet Punch to KO Scizor(T2) ==> Fire Punch on Tbolt(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4/Ending)
Calcs: 115(Multiscale shielded +2 Bullet Punch) + 189(Tbolt) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
The situation here could get a bit messy so i've splitted the two possibilities
Sequence 3: Savage Spin-Out on DD(T1) ==> Seperation Point(T2)
Calcs: 323(Full HP) - 61(Multiscale shielded Savage Spin-Out) = 262(HP Remaining)
Sequence 3a: SD on Roost(T2) ==> Fire Punch on BP ==> Tbolt on Fire Punch ==> Tbolt to kill Thundy
Calcs: 261(HP left on T1) + 161(Roost Heal) = 323(Back to full HP)
115(Multiscale shielded +2 Bullet Punch) + 189(Tbolt) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
Sequence 3b: Under Construction
Sequence 4: U-turn on DD(T1) ==> Volt Switch on Fire Punch(T2) ==> Fire Punch on Bullet Punch to KO Scizor(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4/Ending)
Calcs: 33(Multiscale shielded U-turn) + 147(Volt Switch) + 117(Bullet Punch) = 238(Total damage taken)

I am such a no life btw because my exams starts at 8th of August and here i am doing shit with my time.
 
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WM2N said:
DD Dragonite(HDB) :dragonite: :heavy-duty boots:

Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dual Wingbeat
- Fire Punch
- Roost

No HP ice so we can't be RKilled by thundy even if we don't OHKO it as we have roost. Come in on scizor, dragon dance up and light up the stage with fire punches as we outspeed both mons.
btw calculator is bugged as it doesn't comply for the fact that boots ignores rocks, causing multiscale not having any effect but i'm not changing some calcs involving rolls since i don't want to waste another 20 mins
Calculation Notes:
Full HP - 323
Roost healing - 161

60+ Atk Scizor U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 28-33 (8.6 - 10.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 49-58 (15.1 - 17.9%) -- possible 6HKO

60 Atk Scizor Savage Spin-Out (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 51-61 (15.7 - 18.8%) -- possible 6HKO

+2 60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 97-115 (30 - 35.6%) -- 33% chance to 3HKO

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 99-117 (30.6 - 36.2%) -- 46.9% chance to 3HKO

+1 252 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 0+ Def Scizor: 456-540 (132.9 - 157.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

No +2 Bullet punch and +2 Savage Spin-Out against broken multiscale because the only way to have that happen is miclick
Note: first calc is for when thundy attacks as dnite roosts

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 80-94 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 107-126 (33.1 - 39%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 124-147 (38.3 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+2 252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 159-187 (49.2 - 57.8%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO

252 SpA Thundurus-Therian Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 160-189 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO

+1 252 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Thundurus-Therian: 167-197 (55.8 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Most of the sequnce listed are worst case scenarios after T1(opponent gets perfect predict)
Sequence 1: U-turn on DD(T1) ==> Tbolt on Fire Punch(T2) ==> Tbolt on roost(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4) ==> Fire Punch on BP(T4/ending)
Calcs: 33(Multiscale shielded U-turn) + 189(Tbolt) - 161(roost) + 126(Psychic) + 117(Bullet Punch) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
Sequence 2: SD on DD(T1) ==> Fire Punch on Bullet Punch to KO Scizor(T2) ==> Fire Punch on Tbolt(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4/Ending)
Calcs: 115(Multiscale shielded +2 Bullet Punch) + 189(Tbolt) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
The situation here could get a bit messy so i've splitted the two possibilities
Sequence 3: Savage Spin-Out on DD(T1) ==> Seperation Point(T2)
Calcs: 323(Full HP) - 61(Multiscale shielded Savage Spin-Out) = 262(HP Remaining)
Sequence 3a: SD on Roost(T2) ==> Fire Punch on BP ==> Tbolt on Fire Punch ==> Tbolt to kill Thundy
Calcs: 261(HP left on T1) + 161(Roost Heal) = 323(Back to full HP)
115(Multiscale shielded +2 Bullet Punch) + 189(Tbolt) = 304(Total damage taken)
304(Total damage taken) < 323(Full HP)
Sequence 3b: Under Construction
Sequence 4: U-turn on DD(T1) ==> Volt Switch on Fire Punch(T2) ==> Fire Punch on Bullet Punch to KO Scizor(T3) ==> Fire Punch to KO Thundy(T4/Ending)
Calcs: 33(Multiscale shielded U-turn) + 147(Volt Switch) + 117(Bullet Punch) = 238(Total damage taken)

I am such a no life btw because my exams starts at 8th of August and here i am doing shit with my time.
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3MoreMinutes said:
:SS/Azelf:
Azelf @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Knock Off
- U-turn

I was unable to think of a mon able to switch into both of these mons while threatening them, so I settled for one that can OHKO both. Psychium Z Azelf is easily the best mon able to do so, and has recently become one of my favourite sets in the tier as a whole. Somewhat surprisingly, Azelf comfortably eats Sciz BP and is very likely to live +2, although allowing Azelf to take +2 BP is normally a mistake. Flamethrower always kills Scizor, and Z Psychic always kills Thundurus.

252 SpA Azelf Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 192 SpD Scizor: 372-440 (108.4 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Azelf Shattered Psyche (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 333-393 (111.3 - 131.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

60+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Azelf: 126-148 (43.2 - 50.8%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO
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pinorska said:
Infernape @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Flare Blitz
- Gunk Shot
- U-turn
252 Atk Choice Band Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Thundurus-Therian: 337-397 (112.7 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 1008-1188 (358.7 - 422.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO (chip)
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GiyuForPresident said:
:bw/Rotom-Heat:
Rotom-Heat @ Heavy-Duty Boots :Heavy-Duty Boots:
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Overheat
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Nasty Plot

Rotom-Heat resists the entirety of the core's moves except Psychic on Thundurus-Therian, which isn't even STAB. Rotom-Heat sets up Nasty Plot on both Pokemon freely and only needs to do it once on Thundurus-Therian but would want to do it twice on Scizor to ensure an OHKO on Thundurus-T switching in. Nothing else to say except that missing Overheat would be extremely unfortunate.

252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 248 HP / 192 SpD Scizor: 712-840 (207.5 - 244.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 220-259 (73.5 - 86.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 SpA Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus-Therian: 438-516 (146.4 - 172.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Voting is up! Sorry for the delay, was busy so It will go until MONDAY MORNING EST!
 
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