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New and "creative" moveset/EV spread thread "Mark 2"
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Please, just stop 1234gay. Why would anyone want to make a set for you? Don't be lazy.
lol 1234gay, i made the name without thinking of people calling me this. I am more of an idea person then a actually mking person. I am just so bad at it that's what everyone says. Fine, I'll try.
I did try to make Bulk Up Ursaring a set that can work, but everyone just puts me down. :(
Here is what I have come up with so far
CounterKilsls
Togetiss@lefties
252hp/120def/136sp.def
Calm
Serene Grace
-Counter
-Charm/T-wave
-Roost
-Hp-Ground
With a decent defense and a great sp.defense, Togekiss is usually seem as a sp.defense wall. So most people will try to hit this birdie from the phsical side. So counter is here to punish those who wants hit from the phsical side.
Charm is to reduce the damage of those hard hitters like mence, luke, and T-Boahs. While their damage is halved, the damage from counter is still doubled, so counter will still kill most of these threats.
T-wave can also act like Charm, because it can make the attackers slower than you, allowing you to roost therefore still reducing the damage by half, but when you don't roost, the hit you hard, and if they get paralized on the turn you counter, they would know your strategy and set up on you.
Roost is here for a quick recovery, and taking off the weakness of flying types having it doing better against Magnezone.
Or wish can be used as an alternative to support your team a bit more.
Hp-Ground hits most things that are switch ins to togekiss, it hit Magnezone really hard, and so does it hit heatran hard.
Some calcs. No Charm.
LO Luke CC:-226 - 267 (60.43% - 71.39%)
LO Mence Outrage:265 - 313 (70.86% - 83.69%)
T-tar Boah Stone edge-270 - 318 (72.19% - 85.03%)
Hp-Ground damage.
Hp-Ground: 260 - 308 (80.25% - 95.06%)
I haven't got the time to play test it, i'll post a brand new and more formal post about it.
Got it.
I solemnly swear to Arceus that I will always try my hardest in the business of pokemon set making.
We don't want you to try your hardest.
We want you to play competitively, experiment, and, if you find something that works, something that is actually good, to post it here.
There is no demand for new sets, so don't feel like there is an expectation to come up with new ones.
And please, change your avatar. It looks disgusting.
We want you to play competitively, experiment, and, if you find something that works, something that is actually good, to post it here.
There is no demand for new sets, so don't feel like there is an expectation to come up with new ones.
And please, change your avatar. It looks disgusting.
Is it realy that bad?
The dark thing beside mence's tail is not his penis, and nite is not going to suck it.
Aww, god dude. You just made me look at it that way!
Special Wall Latias
Latias@Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP / 228 SpDef / 28 Spe
- Wish / Recover
- Dragon Pulse / Psychic
- Thunder Wave / Protect
- Light Screen
Latias has many things going for it as a special wall.
1. Team support in Wish
2. Light Screen
3. Amazing speed
All this can make it a decent wall in OU. If you don't like Wish, use Recover. Dragon Pulse has better neutral coverage than Psychic but hits less things super-effective. Protect can be used with Wish, or Thunder Wave can be used for paralyzing stuff. With these EVs, it outspeeds +natured base 70s, aswell as the likes of Tyranitar, Breloom, and most Zapdos. Other options for this set are Toxic for walls, and Safeguard to protect against status.
Special Wall Latias
Latias@Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP / 228 SpDef / 28 Spe
- Wish / Recover
- Dragon Pulse / Psychic
- Thunder Wave / Protect
- Light Screen
Latias has many things going for it as a special wall.
1. Team support in Wish
2. Light Screen
3. Amazing speed
All this can make it a decent wall in OU. If you don't like Wish, use Recover. Dragon Pulse has better neutral coverage than Psychic but hits less things super-effective. Protect can be used with Wish, or Thunder Wave can be used for paralyzing stuff. With these EVs, it outspeeds +natured base 70s, aswell as the likes of Tyranitar, Breloom, and most Zapdos. Other options for this set are Toxic for walls, and Safeguard to protect against status.
I don't think Togekiss truly counts as a bird. It doesn't really have a beak or true legs... and a lot of Pokemon either resist Flying, have the defenses to shrug it off (like Blissey), or scare the living hell out of it.
And why SpD evs? I'd put them in speed.
Edit: I'm really late...
I don't see any reason to ever use Psychic over Dragon Pulse and I'm appalled that Reflect isn't even mentioned, much less a necessity. Psychic gives Weavile and Tyranitar a free switch, and without Reflect, you essentially give your opponent a free kill. I'm not sure what you're trying to outrun with 28 speed EVs either.
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Originally Posted by Fat 1234gjy
I know it's such a crappy set.
At least it's better than some people's random choiced monsters.
No, not really. Those usually have the potential to work.
I am not making these sets and hope it be in the analysis, I just wanted a place to keep my ideas.
Right here in this thread.
Ever heard of these things called Microsoft Word and Notepad? You should try them some time.
My comp is really slow when I use word, so nah.
Any comments on the counterkiss?
It's been doing great on my team, but you can play test if you want to. I need more opinions about it.
BTW, I sweeped twice with by bulk up Ursaring, I am so happy, it's always like this: I get 4+ bulk up, the opponent thinks I am a tank, so they trick a choice scarf or band on to me, then I just sweep through the team.
I am using my second ev spread though, it seems to work much better.
I am also using a phsical Latias as a lead with psycho shift/suck punch/zen headbutt/reflect. It's okayish.
Originally Posted by Fat 1234gjy
I know it's such a crappy set.
At least it's better than some people's random choiced monsters.
No, not really. Those usually have the potential to work.
I am not making these sets and hope it be in the analysis, I just wanted a place to keep my ideas.
Right here in this thread.
Ever heard of these things called Microsoft Word and Notepad? You should try them some time.
My comp is really slow when I use word, so nah.
Any comments on the counterkiss?
It's been doing great on my team, but you can play test if you want to. I need more opinions about it.
BTW, I sweeped twice with by bulk up Ursaring, I am so happy, it's always like this: I get 4+ bulk up, the opponent thinks I am a tank, so they trick a choice scarf or band on to me, then I just sweep through the team.
I am using my second ev spread though, it seems to work much better.
I am also using a phsical Latias as a lead with psycho shift/suck punch/zen headbutt/reflect. It's okayish.
I agree with Teabag here, and Soul Dew will probably still be better, as it beefs up Latias a lot.
Yes, its for OU so no Soul Dew. And I never said Psychic was better or anything. Reflect could work, but I'm not sure it'll help much against CB Tar's STAB Crunch and Dragon Pulse does little so its best to just switch out. May work for physical walling, or a counter set though.
And the Speed lets you outspeed stuff like Breloom, which is very important to hit it before it spores you.
And the Speed lets you outspeed stuff like Breloom, which is very important to hit it before it spores you.
Ohhh... I got it now... but I thought that it could use the dew in Ubers?
And I feel your pain, 1234giy. Something similar to that has happened to me in real life on multiple occasions.
And I feel your pain, 1234giy. Something similar to that has happened to me in real life on multiple occasions.
You mean some one trying to suck your penis like what people thought was happening in my avatar or something else?
My name is 1234gjy, but the j looks like an i.
Here's a rather ludicrous Togekiss that my brother has been messing around with:
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Calm
252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Ominous Wind / Silver Wind
Ancient Power
It's rather novelty, but with a little luck can pull off some ridiculousness. With a 20% chance of raising all stats each attack and bulky defenses to begin with, after even one raise it will be nearly impossible to take down Togekiss easily, allowing it to get more and more raises. Sleep Talk and Rest are preferable to Roost as it helps allay the PP problem of Ancientpower and the Winds and allows Togekiss to tank status better. If status isn't your concern, you can run Roost, Both Winds, and Ancient Power instead.
Just make sure you take down Blissey before getting this thing out there, or Blissey will wall its moves indefinitely until it stalls out of PP.
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Calm
252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Ominous Wind / Silver Wind
Ancient Power
It's rather novelty, but with a little luck can pull off some ridiculousness. With a 20% chance of raising all stats each attack and bulky defenses to begin with, after even one raise it will be nearly impossible to take down Togekiss easily, allowing it to get more and more raises. Sleep Talk and Rest are preferable to Roost as it helps allay the PP problem of Ancientpower and the Winds and allows Togekiss to tank status better. If status isn't your concern, you can run Roost, Both Winds, and Ancient Power instead.
Just make sure you take down Blissey before getting this thing out there, or Blissey will wall its moves indefinitely until it stalls out of PP.
I thought about something like that, but with Roost and Baton Pass, to add to the fun.
Anyone who lets their opponent get 4 Bulk Ups is a fucking idiot and should not be taken seriously. Also stop posting shitty sets that you haven't even tested. People come in here looking for creative sets that work, not shitty sets that does absolutely nothing.
Ursaring is too slow to go and set up; it has Guts already (Quick Feet is honestly useless on it). I'd rather pass some speed or switch it in to a status or ghost move and force a switch and do heavy damage to whatever comes in. I've never tried a BL Trick Room team around it, seeing as it's not as bulky as some other options available.
It doesn't need Bulk Up or SD to sweep, really. Both are wastes of moves that could be used on its array of options.
It doesn't need Bulk Up or SD to sweep, really. Both are wastes of moves that could be used on its array of options.
These statements could not be more wrong. Have you ever faced a Toxic Orb Quick Feet SD Ursaring? 343 Speed, immunity to burn/paralysis, 140 base power STAB move, and 359+ Attack. Hmm, definitely sounds like a waste of time to me...
Quick Feet SD Ursaring is a pain in the ass once your Steel types are gone. It can take out 4-5 pokemon easy before the poison starts getting to it. Pair it with Magnezone and have a pokemon on your team to take Fighting attacks (hint ResTalk Gyarados, who also has great synergy with Magnezone) and you have a winning combination.
LR.
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