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NOC New World NOC - GAME OVER

Former, if you really are the doctor, you're the worst/weirdest doctor I've ever played with. You could have at least attempted to defend yourself or waited for other people to counter claim or something. But alas it's hammer and I can't talk, so hitting the draft save button for later.

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okay, so it's not hammer anymore and I can finally post this.
 
Former said:
lmao, I just saw this


Dude. There's a world of difference between the reads of someone who got mislynched and someone who was night killed. Especially when it's a weird night kill.
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I mean what would not have been a weird night kill? You're supposedly a fucking doctor and the nightkill got through you, and that's wut a nightkill's job is. I've been scum enough times to know that you gotta do weird kills sometimes to avoid protection.

So no, there is not a world of difference between inferno's reads and water lily's reads. Also note that waterlily's posts were largely super short without content, so I don't buy the argument that waterlily was killing because their reads were just too good.
 
That said I guess if someone's played a shitton of games in the past with waterlily and they know each other really well and don't want them alive to catch reads, I could maaaybe see that as a reason to kill them sooner than later, but that's situational.
 
Former said:
Yeah okay, town deserves to lose this game so I'm self hammering.

My final guess is M2H/Hannah/Jalmont

Got lily's alignment right with a few posts and pretty sure I'm right about most of my other reads. But god damn guys, you need to start playing better

lynch former
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so in the op it never says theres specifically 3 mafia
 
InfernoDragon said:
I'm good for a lynch on either Former or Hannah at this point. Both Heal and M2H are at least leaning town for me, and Energy just confuses me at the moment. I think Former is a pretty solid scum read mainly based upon how weird many of his reads are. I don't see how Lily could be read much at all at this point given that they have said virtually nothing out of RVS, and Energy's tunnel on someone who seems pretty definitively towny makes it weird to think he is a locked town read. I don't see these reads coming out of an actual drive to scumhunt -they seem much more like a distraction made by a scum member protecting himslef
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both votes happening after this post
 
MewtwoHidden said:
this is the type of stuff that I can't tr you for.

across our oc games I realized that I can't read you at all on what you say or how you say it but on what you are doing
and honestly trying to strongarm inferno into claiming when he isnt even the lead wagon rn is bad imo. You refused to explain your scum read on me which honestly just came across as omgus to me and a way to intimidate me away from pushing you. You honestly come across like you're power-scumming right now.

Pushing a no lynch is also just objectively a bad idea imo, and I kinda have to think town!former knows better than that. When there are an excess of null/inactive slots idt its ever a good idea to just not lynch.
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idk I felt that former/mewtwo might be TvT but mewtwo joining former on inferno's wagon after making that kind of post seem strange
might be reading too much into wagonomics
 
This was basically the first time you took a stance throughout d1, followed by a vote on former at eod
Then you come into d2 saying mewtwo is mafia ? Can you elaborate on your reads regarding those two
 
MoodyCloud said:
also what about former's vote/inferno's posts prompted you to make this post ?
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Combination of infernos reading town to me and the fact that i found it very lame and suspicious that former decided to vote him at that very moment. Read very opportunistic and felt like he was trying to switch the vote at the last moment. To me it fit a narrative of former trying to protect his teammate heal which is the main narrative I’m thinking through Atm. His shift to voting innerno based off that one post felt really contrived and just seemed so obviously wrong like there was very litttle wrong with that post? This game has been so low key that infernos posts should’ve been encouraging not suspicious Imo
 
MoodyCloud said:
This was basically the first time you took a stance throughout d1, followed by a vote on former at eod
Then you come into d2 saying mewtwo is mafia ? Can you elaborate on your reads regarding those two
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It’s difficult to parse out how exactly I feel about everything, especially rn at work on my phone.

I think the shenanigans at deadline are highly suspicious. The motivation to move onto inferno was weak from both former and m2h. I guess It’s possible that no one wanted heal to be lynched as a relatively solid town read so I’m not ready to annoint him as mafia quite yet but I find it more suspicious than not given what I think to be poor reasoning from former plus m2h deciding he wanted to vote a town read vs voting former.

Everything is complicated by the fact that former is being weird today (also didn’t claim his target lul) and the waterlily kill being pretty out there (I assume it’s PR hunting). I’m not sure if this means I’m way off and I need to reconsider or not. Don’t know if it’s appropriate solve m2h and former now or look elsewhere like laurel.
 
Former said:
ftr, based on how today has gone. I'm always being copped tonight, so I should not be voted ever here since my slot can be resolved tomorrow.

That is why inferno should be the vote today, instead of heal or I.
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I still cannot make sense of this post

Former said:
By the way based on

if inferno flips mafia, always vote M2H next if he doesn't join this vote today.
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then mewtwo joins the inferno wagon despite seemingly suspecting former

Former said:
HeaLnDeaL- 2 (Energy, Waterlily)
Inferno - 2 (The_Caporegime, Former)
Former - 2 (HeaLnDeal, Inferno)
Hannahh - 1 (M2H)

So yeah, currently heal is set to be lynched.
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MewtwoHidden said:
wait there are two on former, I thought there was only one.
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mewtwo has a chance to get former lynched and doesn't take it, former is under pressure at this point
 
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