UU Noivern

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[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Draco Meteor / Hurricane
move 2: Flamethrower
move 3: U-turn / Hurricane / Taunt
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Noivern's blistering Speed, good offensive presence, and decent bulk combine to make it one of the best offensive pivots in the tier. Its unresisted combination of Draco Meteor and Flamethrower makes it difficult for many teams to switch into, and access to U-turn allows it to pivot out of potential counterplay like Hatterene, Sylveon, or bulky Jirachi. It can struggle to deal with certain Pokemon from full health, though, such as Terrakion, and it's pressured heavily by Talonflame and Lycanroc-D, so it should usually be paired with another fast Pokemon. Roost is important and is part of what makes Noivern so effective; its bulk is just good enough to allow it to stay healthy throughout a game and continuously check Pokemon like Cobalion and Keldeo. Hurricane can be used over either Draco Meteor or U-turn to give Noivern better ways to pressure Pokemon like Keldeo, Celebi, and Scyther; giving up on the ability to deal with Kyurem and Dragalge is hard, though, and Hurricane's damage output can be disappointing at times, particularly against Terrakion, not to mention that forgoing Draco Meteor leaves Noivern walled by Pokemon like Rhyperior and Rotom-W. Taunt can also be used over U-turn to prevent setup from the likes of Polteageist and Doublade, but Noivern usually prefers to just pressure them itself or pivot out to a teammate that can better handle them with U-turn. It's helpful to turn the tables on Wish Jirachi, though, because Noivern can prevent it from healing itself. Defog can be used over U-turn if needs be, as Noivern has a good matchup against some entry hazard setters, like Cobalion and Skarmory; it's generally better to just pair Noivern with another form of hazard removal, though.

Noivern's role as a fast pivot means it can safely bring in strong wallbreakers, like Obstagoon, Heracross, and Mienshao, which can break through conventional Noivern answers like Hatterene, bulky Jirachi, Slowking, and Tyranitar. It can also contribute to a team's defensive backbone by acting as a decent switch-in to Pokemon like Doublade, Cobalion, and Skarmory, which can take pressure off its bulkier teammates like Slowking and Skarmory. It can also revenge kill threats like Starmie, Terrakion, and Keldeo, which also eases the role of its defensive partners. Steel-types like Jirachi and Cobalion make for good teammates, pressuring Fairy-types like Hatterene and Sylveon for Noivern and also acting as decent switch-ins to Pokemon like Kyurem if Noivern is not running Draco Meteor or has suffered a Special Attack drop. Those two Pokemon can also form a momentum core with Noivern. Rotom-W is a good partner that can take on Pokemon like Krookodile and Mamoswine for Noivern, which it can struggle to check despite its Flying typing. It can also pair its Volt Switch with Noivern's U-turn to run circles around the opposing team, with Noivern checking Pokemon that would attempt to come in on Rotom-W like Celebi, Kyurem, and Roserade. Other offensive Electric-types like Heliolisk and Rotom-C are good partners for the same reason. Despite its great Speed, Noivern cannot handle Lycanroc-D unless it is at full HP because of its weakness to Accelerock. Partners like Doublade and Palossand are helpful for this reason. They can also check Choice Scarf Jirachi, which would otherwise often try to revenge kill Noivern. Finally, Stealth Rock setters like Rhyperior, Krookodile, and Jirachi can all help Noivern to break past Pokemon that could otherwise survive Draco Meteor, like opposing Krookodile and Toxtricity.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[Estarossa, 461329], [Twilight, 344575]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216]]
 
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[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Draco Meteor / Hurricane
move 2: Flamethrower
move 3: U-turn / Hurricane / Taunt
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Noivern's blistering Speed, good offensive presence, and decent bulk combine to make it one of the best offensive pivots in the tier. Its unresisted combination of Draco Meteor and Flamethrower makes it difficult for many teams to switch into, and access to U-turn allows it to pivot out of potential counterplay like Hatterene, Sylveon, or specially defensive Jirachi. Some generic comment about how it shouldn't be relied upon too heavily to fulfill the role of speed control would be worthwhile imo, with it struggling to deal with lycanroc, full health terrak, talonflame. Hurricane can be used over either Draco Meteor or U-turn to give Noivern better ways to pressure Pokemon like Keldeo, Celebi, and Scyther; though tbh Draco/flame absolutely wrecks Scyther anyway and doesnt rely on you hitting to not just die giving up on the ability to deal with Kyurem and Dragalge is hard, though, and Hurricane's damage output can be disappointing at times. id comment on how it is especially annoying for its role as a terrakion revenge killer due to lower damage and unreliability. Taunt can also be used over U-turn to prevent setup from the likes of Polteageist and Doublade, but Noivern usually prefers to just pressure them itself or pivot out into a teammate that can better handle them with U-turn. if you can find space i'd also bring up how it can stop like Washtom fogging, and spdef jirachi wishing. Roost is important and is part of what makes Noivern so effective; its bulk is just good enough to allow it to stay healthy throughout a game and continuously check Pokemon like Cobalion and Keldeo. feels like the sort of thing that should be in the start about how it checks these consistently. Defog can be used over U-turn if needs be, as Noivern has a good matchup against some entry hazard setters, like Cobalion and Skarmory; it's generally better to just pair Noivern with another form of hazard removal, though. its also comp milo bait :x

Noivern is a fantastic supporter for plenty of Pokemon. It can safely bring in strong wallbreakers, like Obstagoon, Heracross, and Mienshao, which can break through conventional Noivern answers like Hatterene, specially defensive Jirachi, and Tyranitar. Slowking should defo be mentioned here too as something you can force in. It can also contribute to a team's defensive backbone by acting as a decent switch-in to Pokemon like Doublade, Cobalion, and Skarmory, which can take pressure off of its bulkier teammates. Id definitely include mention of its revenge killing capabilities as a benefit here too, being able to revenge stuff like Terrakion, Keldeo, Starmie etc. Steel-types like Jirachi and Cobalion make for good teammates, pressuring Fairy-types like Hatterene and Sylveon for Noivern and also acting as decent switch-ins to Pokemon like Kyurem if Noivern has suffered a Special Attack drop or is not running Draco meteor. Those two Pokemon can also form a momentum core with Noivern. Rotom-W is a good partner that can take on Pokemon like Krookodile for Noivern, which it can struggle to check despite its Flying typing. It can also pair its Volt Switch with Noivern's U-turn to run circles around the opposing team. can mention how it appreciates Noivern checking Kyurem/Celebi that Rotom-Wash invites in too. Other offensive Electric-types like Heliolisk and Rotom-C are good partners for the same reason. Finally, Stealth Rock setters like Rhyperior, Krookodile, and Jirachi can all help Noivern to break past Pokemon that could otherwise survive Draco Meteor, like opposing Krookodile and Toxtricity.

Definitely comment on its inability to deal with Lycanroc-Dusk, which it both cannot revenge kill and is threatened out by, and include some checks to it / comment on pre-existing examples checking it. Doublade would be a nice example to mention since it can also help to check Terrakion to a degree, which Noivern cannot kill if healthy. Can also mention that it switches into (Scarf) Jirachi nicely, which can often attempt to check Noivern on a lot of builds.

Likewise mentioning some secondary speed control for the similar reasons brought up earlier would be nice.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[], []]
- Grammar checked by: [[]]
fantastic work as always. QC 1/2

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[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Draco Meteor / Hurricane
move 2: Flamethrower
move 3: U-turn / Hurricane / Taunt
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Noivern's blistering Speed, good offensive presence, and decent bulk combine to make it one of the best offensive pivots in the tier. Its unresisted combination of Draco Meteor and Flamethrower makes it difficult for many teams to switch into, and access to U-turn allows it to pivot out of potential counterplay like Hatterene, Sylveon, or specially defensive Jirachi. As it currently stands none of the Jirachi sets are actually 'SpD', they just have max HP. I would just say bulky/bulkier instead It can struggle to deal with certain Pokemon from full health, though, such as Terrakion, and it's pressured heavily by Talonflame and Lycanroc-Dusk, so it should usually be paired with another form of speed control. Roost is important and is part of what makes Noivern so effective; its bulk is just good enough to allow it to stay healthy throughout a game and continuously check Pokemon like Cobalion and Keldeo. Hurricane can be used over either Draco Meteor or U-turn to give Noivern better ways to pressure Pokemon like Keldeo, Celebi, and Scyther; giving up on the ability to deal with Kyurem and Dragalge is hard, though, and Hurricane's damage output can be disappointing at times, particularly against Terrakion. I wouldn't say the dmg output is as bad, it's just that a lot more Pokemon are capable of walling it such as Rhyperior, Rotom-W, etc. (Assuming you are dropping Draco) Taunt can also be used over U-turn to prevent setup from the likes of Polteageist and Doublade, but Noivern usually prefers to just pressure them itself or pivot out into a teammate that can better handle them with U-turn. It's helpful to turn the tables on specially defensive Same thing as before Jirachi, though, because Noivern can prevent it from healing itself with Wish. Defog can be used over U-turn if needs be, as Noivern has a good matchup against some entry hazard setters, like Cobalion and Skarmory; it's generally better to just pair Noivern with another form of hazard removal, though.

Noivern is a fantastic supporter for plenty of Pokemon. This seems very filler and not needed honestly It can safely bring in strong wallbreakers, like Obstagoon, Heracross, and Mienshao, which can break through conventional Noivern answers like Hatterene, specially defensive Same as before Jirachi, Slowking, and Tyranitar. It can also contribute to a team's defensive backbone by acting as a decent switch-in to Pokemon like Doublade, Cobalion, and Skarmory, which can take pressure off of its bulkier teammates. Such as? If this and the next sentence applies to some of the Pokemon mentioned below consider reordering where the sentences are to match accordingly. This info currently feels like something in an overview without examples of said defensive partners. It can also revenge kill threats like Starmie, Terrakion, and Keldeo, which also eases the role of its defensive partners. Steel-types like Jirachi and Cobalion make for good teammates, pressuring Fairy-types like Hatterene and Sylveon for Noivern and also acting as decent switch-ins to Pokemon like Kyurem if Noivern is not running Draco Meteor or has suffered a Special Attack drop. Those two Pokemon can also form a momentum core with Noivern. Rotom-W is a good partner that can take on Pokemon like Krookodile and Mamoswine for Noivern, which it can struggle to check despite its Flying typing. It can also pair its Volt Switch with Noivern's U-turn to run circles around the opposing team, with Noivern checking Pokemon that would attempt to come in on Rotom-W like Celebi, Kyurem, and Roserade. Other offensive Electric-types like Heliolisk and Rotom-C are good partners for the same reason. Despite its great Speed, Noivern cannot handle Lycanroc-Dusk unless it is at full HP because of its weakness to Accelerock. Partners like Doublade and Palossand are helpful for this reason. They can also check Choice Scarf Jirachi, which is a Pokemon that would otherwise often try to revenge kill Noivern. Finally, Stealth Rock setters like Rhyperior, Krookodile, and Jirachi can all help Noivern to break past Pokemon that could otherwise survive Draco Meteor, like opposing Krookodile and Toxtricity.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[Estarossa, 461329], []]
- Grammar checked by: [[]]
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[SET]
name: Offensive Pivot
move 1: Draco Meteor / Hurricane
move 2: Flamethrower
move 3: U-turn / Hurricane / Taunt
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Noivern's blistering Speed, good offensive presence, and decent bulk combine to make it one of the best offensive pivots in the tier. Its unresisted combination of Draco Meteor and Flamethrower makes it difficult for many teams to switch into, and access to U-turn allows it to pivot out of potential counterplay like Hatterene, Sylveon, or bulky Jirachi. It can struggle to deal with certain Pokemon from full health, though, such as Terrakion, and it's pressured heavily by Talonflame and Lycanroc-Dusk Lycanroc-D, so it should usually be paired with another form of speed control fast Pokemon. (or revenge killer, w/e works, just not speed control which actually is tailwind / twave / icy wind etc) Roost is important and is part of what makes Noivern so effective; its bulk is just good enough to allow it to stay healthy throughout a game and continuously check Pokemon like Cobalion and Keldeo. Hurricane can be used over either Draco Meteor or U-turn to give Noivern better ways to pressure Pokemon like Keldeo, Celebi, and Scyther; giving up on the ability to deal with Kyurem and Dragalge is hard, though, and Hurricane's damage output can be disappointing at times, particularly against Terrakion, and it also not to mention that forgoing Draco Meteor leaves Noivern walled by Pokemon like Rhyperior and Rotom-W. Taunt can also be used over U-turn to prevent setup from the likes of Polteageist and Doublade, but Noivern usually prefers to just pressure them itself or pivot out into to a teammate that can better handle them with U-turn. It's helpful to turn the tables on Wish Jirachi, though, because Noivern can prevent it from healing itself with Wish. Defog can be used over U-turn if needs be, as Noivern has a good matchup against some entry hazard setters, like Cobalion and Skarmory; it's generally better to just pair Noivern with another form of hazard removal, though.

Noivern's role as a fast pivot means it can safely bring in strong wallbreakers, like Obstagoon, Heracross, and Mienshao, which can break through conventional Noivern answers like Hatterene, bulky Jirachi, Slowking, and Tyranitar. It can also contribute to a team's defensive backbone by acting as a decent switch-in to Pokemon like Doublade, Cobalion, and Skarmory, which can take pressure off of its bulkier teammates like Slowking and Skarmory. It can also revenge kill threats like Starmie, Terrakion, and Keldeo, which also eases the role of its defensive partners. Steel-types like Jirachi and Cobalion make for good teammates, pressuring Fairy-types like Hatterene and Sylveon for Noivern and also acting as decent switch-ins to Pokemon like Kyurem if Noivern is not running Draco Meteor or has suffered a Special Attack drop. Those two Pokemon can also form a momentum core with Noivern. Rotom-W is a good partner that can take on Pokemon like Krookodile and Mamoswine for Noivern, which it can struggle to check despite its Flying typing. It can also pair its Volt Switch with Noivern's U-turn to run circles around the opposing team, with Noivern checking Pokemon that would attempt to come in on Rotom-W like Celebi, Kyurem, and Roserade. Other offensive Electric-types like Heliolisk and Rotom-C are good partners for the same reason. Despite its great Speed, Noivern cannot handle Lycanroc-Dusk Lycanroc-D unless it is at full HP because of its weakness to Accelerock. Partners like Doublade and Palossand are helpful for this reason. They can also check Choice Scarf Jirachi, which is a Pokemon that would otherwise often try to revenge kill Noivern. Finally, Stealth Rock setters like Rhyperior, Krookodile, and Jirachi can all help Noivern to break past Pokemon that could otherwise survive Draco Meteor, like opposing Krookodile and Toxtricity.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[Estarossa, 461329], [Twilight, 344575]]
- Grammar checked by: [[]]
 

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