So lately I've been wanting to build with some mons that at first would do well, but when you face a team with any Steel-type, they do nothing. Some of these Pokemon include Ninjask, Ribombee, Comfey, Aerodactyl, and Indeedee-F.
Tiny shoutout to Roxiee for helping me make sure I didn't look dumb.
Before we get into the problem, lets talk more about these Pokemon I brought up.
These two Pokemon once ran the tier. It was overall a fun meta. Now, only Ninjask has a niche, which is its speed and deadly late-game sweeping potential. Looking at the VR, the S through A- Pokemon that Ribombee can deal with are Rotom-C, Sirfetch'd, Starmie to an extent, Celebi, Guzzlord, and Toxicroak to an extent. It also hits most Pokemon neutrally, but thats a bigger list. Ribombee has so much potential, but cannot do much if there is a Steel-type on the opposing team.
Small note: Whimsicott also works here, while also dealing with Blastoise and Vaporeon, but not much else to note.
Your boy Ninjask is here, again, as it fits into both groups, but neither Aerodactyl and Ribombee fit together. As Flying typed Pokemon, they can deal with Sirfetch'd, Celebi, Decidueye, Toxicroak, and Vileplume, as well as others through coverage. Aerodactyl does have a way to break through Copperajah and Bronzong, but often lacks the power to get a clean OHKO (unless it is running Choice Band).
Overall, these Pokemon kind of suck. However, that is mostly due to the Steels (and a lack of Hidden Power for Comfey). With Fairy + Psychic coverage, they can run through the tier, but they have restrictions, being the Steel types.
There are other Pokemon, such as Dragalge, Exploud, Tauros, Glastrier, Goodra, and Tyrantrum that would also love the removal of Steel types, but they would also be much more dangerous than these previously mentioned Pokemon. It just goes to show that the current Steel types are too good.
Now, let's get onto the problem, which as you have read so far, are Bronzong and Copperajah. Escavalier can also be problematic, but I won't be talking about it right now.
The current best Pokemon of the tier (alongside Rotom-C). It has risen hard with ID + Body Press, but has other sets like Stealth Rock. Heatproof has also risen the ranks due to its insane stopping power and a lack of Flygon. This Pokemon has few checks, almost all of which are Ghost-types. Sure, Xatu can be a problem for it, but it has ways to deal with it through Heavy Slam, Toxic Orb + Trick, and even Shadow Ball.
While being a fantastic Stealth Rock user, we all know it for its Assault Vest set. Its base 130 Attack stat is also a huge reason why it has its identity of a Special wall that is really versatile with its sets. This Pokemon has the moves to break the tier, and has done so as it is a top 3 Pokemon and always has been.
Both Bronzong and Copperajah have been running the tier for a while now. They have allowed for some Pokemon to shine in their roles, while others have gone unnoticed. In my response to the recent survey, I didn't list them as potential Pokemon that are broken or worthy of a suspect. However, I believe they both are too restricting on the builder and the player for the tier.
Why are they too restricting?
1. For Bronzong, you almost always will need either a Ghost type or another Fighting resist that can deal with both Bronzong and Sirfetch'd. Versus Copperajah, you will always need some sort of Fighting or Ground type.
2. IDPress Zong runs through so many teams, the common checks of Xatu and Decidueye often cannot deal with Bronzong's teammates like Guzzlord or Drapion.
3. AV Copper's teammates, such as Vaporeon/Sylveon and Ninjask can handle Sirfetch'd, Passimian, but have troubles with Toxicroak, which are the biggest threats Copper faces.
NU leaders and council, please look into Copper and Bronzong a little more. While Sirfetch'd and Blastoise are threats, these two are as well and deserve the same attention.