I will be completely honest, I am on the fence for this ban.
Metagross is definitely a force to be reckoned with.. but he is extremely easy to play around. Unlike greninja he doesn't get STAB on everything and a movepool of arceus.. he only has a few moves with 0 setup moves other than lol hone claws.
He doesn't have many counters.. that is an deniable fact, actually he's very much like mawile in away except a much higher speed tier. His counters depend on his set.. as well as key predictions to take him out. There are options such as skarmory, mega bro, doublade, and I'm sure quite a few other things that either check or in skarm's case counter.
Now regarding the metagame, I don't believe metagross hurts HO, THAT much.. HO is full of revenge killers, and the offensive pressure on metagross is surprisingly overwhelming.. especially while it tries to mega evolve as it'll find things very capable of outspeeding and bringing him down to KO range as he megas.
I do say ban for now.. but I have a fair uncertainy to my decision as I find the mon broken on paper.. but underwhelming in practice.
EDIT: and rock polish/agility but all that's doing is changing the speed tier for scarfers rather than boost offenses to break down walls.
Metagross is definitely a force to be reckoned with.. but he is extremely easy to play around. Unlike greninja he doesn't get STAB on everything and a movepool of arceus.. he only has a few moves with 0 setup moves other than lol hone claws.
He doesn't have many counters.. that is an deniable fact, actually he's very much like mawile in away except a much higher speed tier. His counters depend on his set.. as well as key predictions to take him out. There are options such as skarmory, mega bro, doublade, and I'm sure quite a few other things that either check or in skarm's case counter.
Now regarding the metagame, I don't believe metagross hurts HO, THAT much.. HO is full of revenge killers, and the offensive pressure on metagross is surprisingly overwhelming.. especially while it tries to mega evolve as it'll find things very capable of outspeeding and bringing him down to KO range as he megas.
I do say ban for now.. but I have a fair uncertainy to my decision as I find the mon broken on paper.. but underwhelming in practice.
EDIT: and rock polish/agility but all that's doing is changing the speed tier for scarfers rather than boost offenses to break down walls.