Well I will not talk about Weavile cuz I agree with most the previous post but I would like to extend on Buzzwole X Xurkitree.
Tbh I trully think Buzzwole is not the biggest problem in Underused right now and Xurkitree is clearly more broken since it obliterate on is own a whole archetype aka Stall. I've testing some stalls on the ladder and it's amazing how it's barely impossible to deal with Xurkitree. Maybe you think Latias is a good answer on stall but with Pursuit users everywhere (Muk Alola, Weavile, Krook etc..) it's really hard to keep Latias alive for checking Xurkitree. After a Tail Glow, Xurkitree is brainless vs Stall, the opponent just have to click X and you lose a Pokemon or lose your Electric immunity the next turn. But Xurkitree doesn't shine only vs Stall, it basically pressure every single team and Pokemon slower than him and even if is Speed is not good, it's enough to pressure a huge majority of the bulky Pokemon. So what we do ? We run speed on our Pokemon to outspeed this thing like people who need to run fast Gliscor to outspeed Xurkitree (and often, they run enough to outspeed Nidoking too since the difference beetween this two isn't huge : 160 EV with Jolly Nature to outspeed Xurkitree Timid and 176 EV still Jolly Nature to outspeed max speed Nidoking).
Buzzwole is far different from Xurkitree. As pif said, I think Buzzwole is a Clefable-Like, it check a lot of thing without being passive and I clearly think it's healthy for Underused right now because there is so much threat to deal with.
To finish this post I'd like to show you a thing that I've tested on the ladder and It's kinda fun (clearly it's just a thing to use for fun I guess since it's very match-up dependant).
HungryLips (Trapinch) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk / Quick Attack / What ever you want
It's one of the Pokemon I tested to deal with Xurkitree / Raikou and tbh is meh but fun to use. If it come on Electric attack (and Xurkitree / Raikou aren't set-up) Trapinch win it's one vs one.
252 SpA Raikou Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 92-110 (31.3 - 37.5%) -- 83.8% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Raikou Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 92-110 (31.3 - 37.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 276-326 (85.9 - 101.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 276-326 (85.9 - 101.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (40 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 84-100 (28.6 - 34.1%) -- 54.6% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Xurkitree Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 124-148 (42.3 - 50.5%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Xurkitree: 288-338 (93.8 - 110%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
[if you opponent is a random and he's running Energy Ball on Xurkitree then you're f*cked as you can see :
252 SpA Xurkitree Energy Ball vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 186-220 (63.4 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]
So don't made me said what I don't have say (lol idk if u understand the idea), Trapinch is not a viable Pokemon in UnderUsed (or maybe C-------------), just a fun Pokemon to use >o>
Tbh I trully think Buzzwole is not the biggest problem in Underused right now and Xurkitree is clearly more broken since it obliterate on is own a whole archetype aka Stall. I've testing some stalls on the ladder and it's amazing how it's barely impossible to deal with Xurkitree. Maybe you think Latias is a good answer on stall but with Pursuit users everywhere (Muk Alola, Weavile, Krook etc..) it's really hard to keep Latias alive for checking Xurkitree. After a Tail Glow, Xurkitree is brainless vs Stall, the opponent just have to click X and you lose a Pokemon or lose your Electric immunity the next turn. But Xurkitree doesn't shine only vs Stall, it basically pressure every single team and Pokemon slower than him and even if is Speed is not good, it's enough to pressure a huge majority of the bulky Pokemon. So what we do ? We run speed on our Pokemon to outspeed this thing like people who need to run fast Gliscor to outspeed Xurkitree (and often, they run enough to outspeed Nidoking too since the difference beetween this two isn't huge : 160 EV with Jolly Nature to outspeed Xurkitree Timid and 176 EV still Jolly Nature to outspeed max speed Nidoking).
Buzzwole is far different from Xurkitree. As pif said, I think Buzzwole is a Clefable-Like, it check a lot of thing without being passive and I clearly think it's healthy for Underused right now because there is so much threat to deal with.
To finish this post I'd like to show you a thing that I've tested on the ladder and It's kinda fun (clearly it's just a thing to use for fun I guess since it's very match-up dependant).
HungryLips (Trapinch) (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Rest
- Sleep Talk / Quick Attack / What ever you want
It's one of the Pokemon I tested to deal with Xurkitree / Raikou and tbh is meh but fun to use. If it come on Electric attack (and Xurkitree / Raikou aren't set-up) Trapinch win it's one vs one.
252 SpA Raikou Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 92-110 (31.3 - 37.5%) -- 83.8% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Raikou Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 92-110 (31.3 - 37.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 276-326 (85.9 - 101.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 276-326 (85.9 - 101.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (40 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 84-100 (28.6 - 34.1%) -- 54.6% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Xurkitree Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 124-148 (42.3 - 50.5%) -- 38.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
8 Atk Trapinch Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Xurkitree: 288-338 (93.8 - 110%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
[if you opponent is a random and he's running Energy Ball on Xurkitree then you're f*cked as you can see :
252 SpA Xurkitree Energy Ball vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Trapinch: 186-220 (63.4 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO]
So don't made me said what I don't have say (lol idk if u understand the idea), Trapinch is not a viable Pokemon in UnderUsed (or maybe C-------------), just a fun Pokemon to use >o>
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