Everything Storm and 3d wrote is true, and watching the smooth brains dogpile is wild af...
However, everything these intelligent players said is nullified by the meta we're in.
Pao would be this gen's Weavile- 100%
Much needed breaker, forces teams to think twice about corny team compositions, didn't dominate SPL, etc.
However, as I said in this thread already, Terra does push out Pao.
Terra pushes out a steady meta.
Pao will go, then Espa, who would also be fine w/o Terra, then Garg.
Then I guess, Roaring, or Val, or Pult, or King; and then it just steamrolls from there.
What we'll be left with is a terrible meta.
In the meantime we will waste another 2 weeks on Espa, pushing us into March.
Then another 2 weeks for Garg, which gets us close to Home meta.
Where we test all these mons again, right?
These mons we've banned need to be tested in a new environment.
But wait, we'll be focused on the shit show that is post-Home meta.
We'll have a few QB, but we will have at least 4-7 suspects before its all said and done.
It'll be damn near July before we get to a place to where the meta can begin to settle.
Not settle in July, but start to settle, and then finally people may start to realize there is no steady meta to be found due to Terra.
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My stance on Terra is that the pro-Terra players are either:
A) A good player who simply lacks foresight and vision to how damaging this gimmick is to a meta in the long term
B) A bad player who like to click buttons
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By damaging, I mean we're losing a breaker that holds the tier back from getting too Gargan/Pex/Corvi/Skel/Don/Clod
Eventually, and unfortunately, maybe years later- the majority will realize that Pao is just a symptom to a greater issue.
I wish I could vote no ban, just to show solidarity with the players who realize how detrimental losing the premier breaker will be to this meta.
However, I don't think I can in good faith due to Terra Dark Pao, which basically nothing can safely switch into.
You can even run boots, or sash, and thanks to Terra, you basically get to hold a LO without any drawback- or pair Pao with black glasses and you literally have a mon has a de facto choice band but can also use coverage/Sucker once it Terra's Dark.
It's too much power.
I knew weeks before gen 9 launch that the fact Terra boosts your STABS will be the thing that makes it too broken.
Shame such a fun and cool idea is just a bit too strong.
I'm still looking for a place where I can play gen 9 OU 6v6 singles.
Like an actual meta.
I feel like I'm in another universe where everyone was pro D-Max in gen 8 and I just have to sit here and take it lol.
Wild shit.
However, everything these intelligent players said is nullified by the meta we're in.
Pao would be this gen's Weavile- 100%
Much needed breaker, forces teams to think twice about corny team compositions, didn't dominate SPL, etc.
However, as I said in this thread already, Terra does push out Pao.
Terra pushes out a steady meta.
Pao will go, then Espa, who would also be fine w/o Terra, then Garg.
Then I guess, Roaring, or Val, or Pult, or King; and then it just steamrolls from there.
What we'll be left with is a terrible meta.
In the meantime we will waste another 2 weeks on Espa, pushing us into March.
Then another 2 weeks for Garg, which gets us close to Home meta.
Where we test all these mons again, right?
These mons we've banned need to be tested in a new environment.
But wait, we'll be focused on the shit show that is post-Home meta.
We'll have a few QB, but we will have at least 4-7 suspects before its all said and done.
It'll be damn near July before we get to a place to where the meta can begin to settle.
Not settle in July, but start to settle, and then finally people may start to realize there is no steady meta to be found due to Terra.
-
My stance on Terra is that the pro-Terra players are either:
A) A good player who simply lacks foresight and vision to how damaging this gimmick is to a meta in the long term
B) A bad player who like to click buttons
-
By damaging, I mean we're losing a breaker that holds the tier back from getting too Gargan/Pex/Corvi/Skel/Don/Clod
Eventually, and unfortunately, maybe years later- the majority will realize that Pao is just a symptom to a greater issue.
I wish I could vote no ban, just to show solidarity with the players who realize how detrimental losing the premier breaker will be to this meta.
However, I don't think I can in good faith due to Terra Dark Pao, which basically nothing can safely switch into.
You can even run boots, or sash, and thanks to Terra, you basically get to hold a LO without any drawback- or pair Pao with black glasses and you literally have a mon has a de facto choice band but can also use coverage/Sucker once it Terra's Dark.
It's too much power.
I knew weeks before gen 9 launch that the fact Terra boosts your STABS will be the thing that makes it too broken.
Shame such a fun and cool idea is just a bit too strong.
I'm still looking for a place where I can play gen 9 OU 6v6 singles.
Like an actual meta.
I feel like I'm in another universe where everyone was pro D-Max in gen 8 and I just have to sit here and take it lol.
Wild shit.