First of all I don't know who claimed that this metagame was "suspectless" in the first place, because currently it is not in that state, but anyway the thread is still useful. We have not had nominations, we have not voted, and we have not even discussed many important aspects of the metagame yet such as "what strategies are effective" and even "what's common on the ladder(we are talking about this at the moment)" or more importantly "what are people using in tournaments".
That was part of Yuggle's post - that we really don't need the thread in a suspect-less metagame. I was extending that to encompass all metagames.
Specifically, I don't know how you'd argue that even before in the "obviously suspect" metagames that a thread isn't needed. The thread served as a place where people could ask others opinions on what they thought was broken and brought logical reasoning into convincing people whether they were wrong or right. I'll admit they haven't always been productive, but they have always been a good thing to have.
Yes, you can start threads on Pokemon that you think are broken, but what about Pokemon such as Dugtrio and Moltres who weren't really thought of as broken and were practically one-sided. Those threads wouldn't produce much more than a quick lock.
This could all be discussed in different threads for each Pokemon that exerts a large impact on the metagame. They don't have to be broken per se, but Dugtrio and Moltres had enough discussion in the last thread to warrant their own topic. That way you don't have to search the 70+ pages of the megathread to find the post you're looking for; just head over to the respective thread and scan the 4-5 pages, which is really all that is needed for each imo.
A general thread allows us to talk about anything that doesn't deserve its own topic, which happens to be a lot.
Think about all that is posted on this thread - I think I can summarize it in a couple points:
1) Posts in reply to decent posts that are irrelevant and misunderstood because of the confusing nature of the thread/general stupidity
- What the UU board is known for at this point, and what we should be working to destroy. Sadly, they still pop up. All the time.
2) Complaining about the metagame
- Is this productive at all? If you're having problems with the metagame, fix them. Get some constructive criticism on your attempts at a team from someone who is thriving in the current metagame. Complaining helps nothing.
3) "Guess what I found a cool poke that's not standard!?!"
- Please put these in the creative moveset thread...
4) "So I've seen a lot of Venusaur/Moltres/Milotic lately and it got me thinking..."
- Make a Venu/Tres/Milo thread or post in the existing thread if it's already there. Numerous advantages to this then the random firings of neurons that happen in this thread.
5) "I noticed something about the metagame..."
- Productive. Sadly, these posts are hardly, hardly ever made.
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If there was ever to be a purpose for a thread at all like this, it would be if the administration actually enforced rules that only posts about the current state of the metagame (not complaining, not about individual pokes) could be stated. It would be a thread only of analysis. Not lots of random crap. Not lots of individual poke discussions. Again, no complaining. Ideally the final thread would only be 6-10 pages by the end of the test. By looking at the thread afterwords, you could tell the general flow of the metagame.
You can't do that now. Too much random unorganized thoughts in one place. The shift to topics rather than posts won't be made until the megathread is gone; the shift of the outlook of the UU metagame (and its players) also will not change until the megathread has gotten rid of. It is the face of UU atm, and not in a good way. Please, lets get rid of it :\
