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Haruno said:
That still makes no sense though? Why would anyone besides you yourself ever do something like that? Since all it does is supposedly clear you of suspicion from cancerous lynch............................ which you'd be the primary instigator for, add onto the fact that you claim you're on a faction................ it's very easy to think you did it to proclaim your innocence and say something like "I'm on a faction but I have village's best interests" or whatnot.
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Firstly I specifically have said I do not claim I'm on a faction which I did so here

My current assumption (and I think it's safe to say the most likely scenario) is simply that there is what their appears to be, a public inspection ability. Occam's Razor.
 
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought your claim was that you were on a faction with a faction action of copping. Your claim is then.... JOAT? Something similar? If you're not a factioncop but you had the ability to faction cop.
 
When people wake up and see this train of conversation I want you to be thinking of how your results can be leveraged to reveal scum and what possible things you might need to combine with for your information to be best utilised. I also want the person I attempted to cop to hint their acknowledgement to me if they are able to deduce that they are who I copped.
 
I think there's a key point here of "is the announcement the result of a modposter or a public inspector? (or whatever a cop who has his results posted in thread is called)"

Texas Cloverleaf said:
Your shade throwing and misrepresentation is noted
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Let me clarify then:
I don't believe your claim of faction copping while not being a faction cop. That's the "lie" that I'm referring to.
 
Haruno my assumptions post flip have not changed much because my going opinion was Walrein and Cancerous were town.

Coming back and gauging reactions from my blank slate vote I didn't get the bandwagoning I expect it to. There wasn't a lot of posting there but that was imo the stringest D1 lead by far and wagon dynamics only confirm that lead for me.

I'm far more willing to believe ligtwolf is scum now, same with smashlloyd. Biggest thing sticking out at this stage for is who people are willing to ignore in this game. The move to Cancerous was borderline hypocritical by the above 2 users.

Haruno and Texas are very towny right now.

Fort trust me when I say there are claim possibilities that are more than consistent with what texas is saying. If you absolutely need realistic examples I can provide a few but I prefer not to even approach claim solving right now.

Haruno people don't submit roles they submit flavor get over it.

Texas cancerous was a fucking mason so he was town and the delay is probably some shitty mafia passive or something. Hopefully we see Walrein's role next cycle but I'm going on the strong assumption that he's town.

I was gonn oost more but I spent 4 hours making a character sheet with agape so sue me. I'll be back in the morning
 
So I quickly went through the pages and all I see is weird accusation against Texas (wtf?) and some people either not bothering to justify a tunnel on me anymore or making a post then voting in the next so it looks cleaner (shoutouts ColorCastle). My lynch targets as of now are shubaka on a gut feeling from his inactivity and one lightwolf/blazade, probably lightwolf based on how dumb the tunnel on me seem to be on his part. When I saw blazade's first post this cycle I thought it was doing too quick a job to push the blankslate lynch but most of the posters thus far have done the same so yeah !
Lynch Lightwolf I think one of walrein/texas/blazade/you is scum and your behavior of laying groundwork for my lynch makes me go with you
I'll try and get more together later but rn just woke up
 
Okay first things first. I'm lynching the next person who says that someone is playing according to their town game. What fucking idiot would not try to match their town game and play an obviously different manner when trying to win as scum. Sure later they might break down and make mistakes but every sane person will try to replicate how they feel like they'd play it as a villager. Haruno's (and mine for that matter) are clear examples of ones the ignore traditional village play to go for an uniform playstyle that irks people, and in certain cases it's unhelpful to the village.

So, Haruno if you wanna discuss the flips of Cancerous and the assumed village death of Walrein and their implications, how about you personally say more about it than oh Texas started the cancerous vote and now there is an announcement on him being clean! To which my reaction is I will ignore the announcement because it's bollocks and I will not use something that WIFOM to make any judgements, same with his apparent claim of being used as a faction cop last night, simply because that neither damns him nor cleans him ever(though the fact he claimed it happened seems like an obvious selfdefensive action, if a bit alignment unindicative).

More on Texas, you have stated you'd make more long winded arguments against people when there is stuff to actually make a case on, so instead of defending your outrageous claim that I DON'T WANT ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON(it'wasted like a whole page already, and it is just asking to make the owner of the role if it exists to jump in and defend him...), please make a case, pref multiple so I can actually read you.

Moody you didn't address my case even though you directly stated you would if I actually presented one, if you want me to be suspected please actually take your time and disprove my allegations on you as being false or your case of dumb tunneling doesn't hold water. You know just like I did one your accusations of Walrein.

Back to haruno, now address my post too, you know the one you avoided saying it wasn't posted when you LMAOd. You are very clearly holding I'm scum buddies with fort so I'd like for you to show my scummines to the public rather than just shouting out I'm scumbuddies with Fort the end. And yeah please more on what interesting revelations we got from the two confirmed deaths till now since you are so excited to talk about them.

Keeping my vote on Haruno still, unless moody makes another post ignoring mine.

I also plan on doing a read list later today, Later today meaning like 10 hours laterish so don't stay up. Oh and Blazade actual posts please? You feel very tempered in your approach to scumhunting and pursuing individuals with pressure.
 
comment regarding my activity: it's not even intentional this game, some IRL stuff popped up EoD1, and i nearly missed the N1 DL.

haruno seems to be playing remarkably well, and my lynch feels completely unfounded now. unlynch

lynching texas would be a good baseline on whether to trust disembodied voices, but if he ends up being town this is kinda the best texas town play i've seen, and i'd feel sorry to him. ofc if he flips scum then fuck that, he deserved it.
 
Haruno said:
>claims faction inspect failed
>doesn't claim faction cop

You're going to need to explain why the mason with the role cop isn't the one with the faction cop since that's what is most sensible logistic wise.

Not buying this bullshit,

Lynch texas.

You'll also need to explain the announce/inspect that stated you as village. If there is a faction cop as we've seen unless the second part of the results is a pub announcer I guess, in which case that opens an even bigger can of worms, why were you the target? ??????????????????????????????????????????? There are way too many coincidences piling up against you.

From being a faction cop and not being aligned with the guy with the confirmed role cop.
Starting the bandwagon on said role cop in the first place.
Realizing that there can/will be heat on you because of said lynch, there just happens to be a public faction inspect on you stating you to be village?

ANd you claim there's another faction inspect in this case? What. what what what what what
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I disagree with this post, someone might have targeted Texas after he made a case resulting in last cycle's lynch without a flip
Also why would Texas scum go and talk about faction cop attempts failing when he's better off keeping his mouth shut lol
 
uhhh expect silence from my end for like another 18~ hours then im done working for the weekend and can form my opinion on how we should roll today
 
Indeed you can't

My message to town is to not let their opinions be molded by others and start getting into business and asking questions. A bunch of idlers have barely been pressured all game and I'm not going to sit and watch them drop a "eh whatever lynch moody bye"
 
Honestly, after thinking about what I've seen, Moody's play strangely doesn't seem scummy anymore. Don't get me wrong, it's extremely strange and it gave me very bad vibes D1, but after analysing it it seems significantly less scummy than I originally thought. For this reason, I'm not going to pressure Moody but instead:


Blank Slate2356 you're at risk of a bandwagon forming on you and, since you've only made two posts in the entire game despite being active on Smogon, I think you're being really suspicious. List all your reads.
smashlloyd20 your silence is also very suspicious from where I'm standing, and I feel like you're staying out of the conversation to avoid all kinds of suspicion. Well, while everyone's focusing on Texas, Moody and Blank, you're getting away fairly suspicion-free. Tell me your reads.

For now, to pressure a response I'm hopping on the bandwagon and lynching Blank Slate.
 
It seems people are confused about the switch between Cancerous and Blankslate vote so I'll drop my two cents on that

I'll take lynching Cancerous, who I was townreading as I have stated before, over me, as lynching someone who may be scum aka him seems better than someone who I 100% know is town aka me. I personally wanted to push for a blankslate lynch, so along with Walrein we tried and gave people a chance to follow, they didn't so I last second voted back on Cancerous to avoid a disastrous multiple lynch.

As a matter of fact I don't want to lynch Blankslate anymore.
 
Unsure how I feel about a lightwolf lynch, if he's scum the way he's pushing is pretty blatant, if he's town his tunnel on me on the groudns of being wrong about walrein looks bad and it allows a bunch of idlers to fly under the radar so it doesn't seem to make sense either way
 
Also Lightwolf I never seriously wanted to get people to lynch Walrein, I wanted my vote to pressure someone and a tunnel on someone I thought I had caught as faking protown activity seemed better than a random RVS which might have been ignored. It got discussion going even though it was too narrowed on me/walrein, getting people to take stances was one of my main objectives and it worked to some extent. Now if you want to lynch me because you think my scumread on walrein was a wrong play well idk what to tell you anymore, you're starting to look like you're pushing the easy wagon
 
Moody my initial vote today was both a me being at work thing and a bandwagon reaction test one.

I actually am pretty down for a shubaka lynch.

In my mind lightwolf is only scum if he's trying to protect other people and I'd prefer to see how those other people flip first.

Blank, smashlloyd, shubaka, lightwolf, are people I'd lynch today right now.

Moody, Haruno, Texas, Martin, Buttered Toast are people I probably don't
 
You are avoiding the question. I'm questioning you on the reasoning you provided for the Walrein pressure, which I called bollocks on and your singular quote only worked without context. Also how can you be that hypocritical in between a double posts to first call me out on tunneling you then pointing out how you created a tunnel on Walrein. Also I literally stated that I will be lynching anyone who fails to contribute today unless everyone manages it because a good chunk of the game only dropped in for a 1-2 posts at the end of the day to vote. Either way Moody address my qualms with your jokey defense reasoning if you want me to stop tunneling you, if you are a villager you obviously have nothing to fear about what you done and said :p

Also since I never addressed Asek I very much await his promised magical insight from when Walrein dies, surely he can make an estimation on what we gained from his death(note that I'm okay with it being assumed he was village is because I do not really give a single shred of weight to what we can glean from how people around Walrein acted, I'm merely holding Asek to what he promised)
 
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