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Haruno said:
Stop diverting attention away. TY


That's fucking bullshit LOOOOL. And you still ignored the question of what you did every night so I'll need an explaantion for that. I've been constantly asking this and you've been avoiding the question.

5 neutral/mafia is far less feasible than killing 5 town no matter how you look at it. Give me some of the crack u have tho if u think there are 7 mafia members in this game. The fact that you didn't mention killing neuts more than likely means that you're on a faction with other neuts. GG boys, easy free lynch.
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The thing with my role is, if I decide to kill town then I'm not unlynchable. Sure, it's quicker and easier, but it leaves me much more vulnerable. The only downside is killing scum is harder than killing town. And what I did every night was:

N1: Went on veteran alert
N2: Idle
N3: Idle
N4: Idle
N5: Idle

While my wincon is almost unachievable at this point due to the rate at which mafia is being lynched and the fact that I haven't shot any yet, I do have a way to come back from this. If all mafia/neutrals are eliminated, any kills I then need to get become village kills. For example, I need 5 correct kills, so if I kill two scum before the game runs out of scum, I then need to kill 3 town. I'd appreciate leaving some confirmed scum for me to kill at night to help us both. Whydon is especially useful here. I'm still not sure Haruno is scum, as early towniness convinced me otherwise. I'll vote later when I form a stronger opinion on this.
 
Blazade said:
to be crystal clear Haruno, you are committing to your claim and claiming a redirect explains moody's watch?

did you get a notification you were redirected?
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yes and no, no to the latter due to the fact that it's unlikely I would receive a notification for something like that when I don't have an active action.
Vanillish Wafer said:
The thing with my role is, if I decide to kill town then I'm not unlynchable. Sure, it's quicker and easier, but it leaves me much more vulnerable. The only downside is killing scum is harder than killing town. And what I did every night was:

N1: Went on veteran alert
N2: Idle
N3: Idle
N4: Idle
N5: Idle

While my wincon is almost unachievable at this point due to the rate at which mafia is being lynched and the fact that I haven't shot any yet, I do have a way to come back from this. If all mafia/neutrals are eliminated, any kills I then need to get become village kills. For example, I need 5 correct kills, so , if I kill two scum before the game runs out of scum, I then need to kill 3 town. I'd appreciate leaving some confirmed scum for me to kill at night to help us both. Whydon is especially useful here. I'm still not sure Haruno is scum, as early towniness convinced me otherwise. I'll vote later when I form a stronger opinion on this.
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Let's start on your actions first, why did you go on vet alert night 1 (I am almost certain you said that only because LW said that you didn't idle night 1 but that's not your real action) and then if killing players is so important to you why have you not killed a single player supposedly. Your actions are making about as much sense as pancake idling for every fucking night.

Right now frankly, you're full of shit. At the rate you're going as an outted neutral, you are not managing to kill 5 players period since that means the game will last up till day 11 which is not happening realistically.

So right now everything you're saying makes zero sense in regards to your wincon and thus you should not be trusted. I am still positive at this point there is some form of neutral faction that helps with your wincon since at the moment you lose 100%. If vanillish is what he claims however, I see no reason for us to not lynch the most obvious neutrals over scum since that forces vanillish to become vulnerable much sooner and at less cost to town. Of course I expect the obvious neutral faction members of paper + texas to maintain the vote on me since they're not voting one of their own but I expect the other players to realize your last post is so obviously horseshit that they'll act accordingly.

Blazade
Former Hope Aubisio acidphoenix and honestly whoever else i forgot rofl
 
Haruno said:
yes and no, no to the latter due to the fact that it's unlikely I would receive a notification for something like that when I don't have an active action.

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Let's start on your actions first, why did you go on vet alert night 1 (I am almost certain you said that only because LW said that you didn't idle night 1 but that's not your real action) and then if killing players is so important to you why have you not killed a single player supposedly. Your actions are making about as much sense as pancake idling for every fucking night.

Right now frankly, you're full of shit. At the rate you're going as an outted neutral, you are not managing to kill 5 players period since that means the game will last up till day 11 which is not happening realistically.

So right now everything you're saying makes zero sense in regards to your wincon and thus you should not be trusted. I am still positive at this point there is some form of neutral faction that helps with your wincon since at the moment you lose 100%. If vanillish is what he claims however, I see no reason for us to not lynch the most obvious neutrals over scum since that forces vanillish to become vulnerable much sooner and at less cost to town. Of course I expect the obvious neutral faction members of paper + texas to maintain the vote on me since they're not voting one of their own but I expect the other players to realize your last post is so obviously horseshit that they'll act accordingly.

Blazade
Former Hope Aubisio acidphoenix and honestly whoever else i forgot rofl
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I've been playing conservatively because of the whole guilty conscience thing. If I kill two town while my wincon is killing mafia I die, so I'd rather not risk it until I've got a pretty good idea of what I need to do.
 
Vanillish Wafer said:
I've been playing conservatively because of the whole guilty conscience thing. If I kill two town while my wincon is killing mafia I die, so I'd rather not risk it until I've got a pretty good idea of what I need to do.
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???? While your wincon is killing mafia? Please clarify on how your wincon works yet again. I was under the assumption you'd have to kill everyone and even if you supposedly haven't killed anyone you lose 100% at this point. So I don't see what you're getting at since you need to have a clearly defined wincon that makes sense with the course of actions you've been taking. You are unfortunately lacking in that still. Of course there's also the matter of you still have a 1 player safety net in the fact that you can kill one town before having a guilty conscience................. sooo I fail to see your lack of actions as convincing.
 
Ok so redirect is speculation.

Why would a redirector ever target haruno? (unclaimed so they can't be trying to "clean" themselves)

Why haven't we talked about the fact that Moody should also see the redirector?(as the redirector's second target tells haruno what to target)

I get that it's a relatively consistent way to manufacture a target where none exists but the whole thing stinks
 
Haruno said:
???? While your wincon is killing mafia? Please clarify on how your wincon works yet again. I was under the assumption you'd have to kill everyone and even if you supposedly haven't killed anyone you lose 100% at this point. So I don't see what you're getting at since you need to have a clearly defined wincon that makes sense with the course of actions you've been taking. You are unfortunately lacking in that still. Of course there's also the matter of you still have a 1 player safety net in the fact that you can kill one town before having a guilty conscience................. sooo I fail to see your lack of actions as convincing.
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Yes. As I said earlier, if all neutrals/mafia die and I haven't won, my wincon changes to kill town with my remaining kills. E.g, I need to kill five scum, if I kill three then I need to kill two town after my wincon changes.
 
That doesn't explain all the huge inconsistencies such as not shooting some people that people have obviously thought are scum, moody during day 1/2, blank slate, among others who were obvious scum. If you really were aiming to kill mafia/neutrals as you claim then there were so many options and there's still the likes of martin, revived walrein, etc. So you had plenty of targets that could be mafia and again you still have one a person safety net sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

There are just way too many times that people could've been scum and you didn't do anything since idling isnt in your best interests.

I still maintain that popping the LPV and then lynching his ass the next night assuming LPV wasn't a lie in the first place is still a solid plan. Also Blazade thoughts on how paper + aubisio immediately tried to jump on my wagon?
 
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Lol going after confirmed town is a good way to play this game. You have more than enough evidence against you for suspicion to be reasonable, Haruno. I don't read much into the BW by paperblade

My preferred lynches are BT > Haruno > Vanillish (who is on notice and will die if a town dies by his hand
 
acidphoenix you've been very quiet this whole game which doesn't reflect well on you with your ability being one that would fit a possible neutral. Where are your thoughts at?

Blazade obviously I'm board with lynch the claimed night immune but I could really use a bit more convincing because from my perspective there's a whoooole lot of things Haruno has done that fall in line with a scum agenda
 
Actually I'm reminded of a rule that almost came into place in day 1. If we have a subset of player who we think are equally likely to be scum/contain scum among them we can tie the vote and lynch them both.
 
Blazade said:
Lol going after confirmed town is a good way to play this game. You have more than enough evidence against you for suspicion to be reasonable, Haruno. I don't read much into the BW by paperblade

My preferred lynches are BT > Haruno > Vanillish (who is on notice and will die if a town dies by his hand
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Paper is far from confirmed town now I'm afraid and I've stated this since cycle 3.
 
Double lynch is a good plan

I'm barely following this game cause busy with work so I'm still trying to determine who is scummiest, I'll freely admit I mostly voted Haruno because he was acting like an idiot, but upon further consideration that is his standard operating procedure in mafia

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I'm down for a double lynch, tbh we should be doing that as often as possible because it benefits town more
 
A double lynch in the dark is terrible for town. Though with confirmed scum such as Vanillish I'm fine with it.

That said, I'm really not liking Texas's plays right now. Seems way too cocky for a towny
 
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