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In the macro game there are a finite amount of kills, the larger percentage of kills under town control tends to predict better chances for town. The downside to not doing this every time is how much of a rand it is but at this stage we have thinned more than far enough.
 
Paper is far from confirmed town now I'm afraid and I've stated this since cycle 3.
The thing I don't get is why you're so insistent that the revive was a revive+recruit all in one?
I understand that Martin might be non-town, but why on earth does that necessarily mean that he didn't have a normal revive? Why must it be a recruiting revive?
 
Agree to lynch : Butteredtoast, Acidphoenix, Vanillish, Haruno
Agree to a multiple lynch
Former hope should prove his vig claim tonight
Anyone who stealth screws up the multilynch should get vigged
unvote vote acidphoenix your silence does not sit well with me at all and I'd like to see you claim target
 
The thing I don't get is why you're so insistent that the revive was a revive+recruit all in one?
I understand that Martin might be non-town, but why on earth does that necessarily mean that he didn't have a normal revive? Why must it be a recruiting revive?
Why are you insisting on this again? Do you perhaps have confirmation or better yet was the vig used on you
 
Former how dafuq am I being cocky that's the last way I'd describe me lately

As blazade outlined a double lynch is 100% a good option, we have a PoE pool of probable scum, even in the unlikely event (and impossible event given vanillish is claiming neutral) that both were town all that means is that tomorrow the PoE pool is down to two to catch guaranteed scum. All while limiting the number of kills mafia gets.

The fundamental difference is that this isn't a blind shot in the dark, it's educated based on a game's worth of information
 
I actually think the realm of insane conspiracy theories is the realm of townies, but that's just my experience

What do you guys think
In my experience both alignments do that. Early game it's more probable for town to be speculating, late game it's more probable for scum to be sowing confusion and dissent. In my eyes we're hitting late game.
 
Lynching/vigging in our highly suspicious pool and inspecting the others (fort/me/blazade/texas come to mind) seem to be a good course of action
I include acidphoenix in the suspicious pool btw
 
In my experience both alignments do that. Early game it's more probable for town to be speculating, late game it's more probable for scum to be sowing confusion and dissent. In my eyes we're hitting late game.
Tbh the main thing that bugs me about Haruno is his insistence that it's a neutral faction and not a mafia one

This makes me think he is mafia in a bad spot and trying to rationalize his game situation as there being another antitown faction
 
Moody, I'm a conditional vig. Ie my condition needs to be met before I get my shot and since it's public knowledge of what my condition is, I doubt it's going to get fulfilled. So instead I'm just hard to kill at night for scum
 
Tbh the main thing that bugs me about Haruno is his insistence that it's a neutral faction and not a mafia one

This makes me think he is mafia in a bad spot and trying to rationalize his game situation as there being another antitown faction
what mafia would ever have or better yet use a night skip? Or have a revive? zzzzzzzzzzz
 
Why are you insisting on this again? Do you perhaps have confirmation or better yet was the vig used on you
That question is complete bullshit. The more derivative idea is yours (that the reviver was a recruiter at the same time).
That's your burden of proof. Not mine.

Don't make it seem like I'm being unreasonable by insisting the opposite of your claim, when yours is a bigger stretch from known info.
 
That question is complete bullshit. The more derivative idea is yours (that the reviver was a recruiter at the same time).
That's your burden of proof. Not mine.

Don't make it seem like I'm being unreasonable by insisting the opposite of your claim, when yours is a bigger stretch from known info.
on that note, answer the question. What makes you so sure that it's a recruit-revive and not a revive?
 
Lynching/vigging in our highly suspicious pool and inspecting the others (fort/me/blazade/texas come to mind) seem to be a good course of action
I include acidphoenix in the suspicious pool btw

Reminder that I picked up a BG from former so I am inclined to believe he is vig (I forget what his condition is supposed to be can someone remind me)

Reminder also that Whydon (imo unnecessarily) cleaned Fot

Can you tell me who targeted texas again? It's so far back.

I agree acid is suspicious at this point, BT and acid have scummy claims, poor evidence, and bad activity. I'm willing to entertain the notion of even more neutrals like Martina nd PBlade but I'm not willing to place them at a greater threat than the scum when they seem to have sidequest wincons and aren't killing people. It's therefore easier for me to think of Martin/PBlade as conftown until further notice because to be honest if they're uninformed they have to scumhunt for us anyway.

As for a more detailed explanation of BT, it's not too comlicated other than BT is solidly in the PoE, has an ability that neither intereacts and provides evidence in a game where non claimed abilities clearly exist, nor allows us to risk targeting him without wasting actions. I'll ISO BT and acid as the night goes on.

When's DL? What's the VC?
 
That question is complete bullshit. The more derivative idea is yours (that the reviver was a recruiter at the same time).
That's your burden of proof. Not mine.

Don't make it seem like I'm being unreasonable by insisting the opposite of your claim, when yours is a bigger stretch from known info.
look through my posts namely after the night skip + lynch redirect happened on why I'm certain martin is a neutral.
 
what mafia would ever have or better yet use a night skip? Or have a revive? zzzzzzzzzzz
What's the difference between a mafia and a group of 4+ people that aren't town? Other than that this group apparently not having a kill (unless they've been hiding it this whole time), and if they have no kill the town can just force no lynches forever. Your theory just requires so many assumptions that the fact that you are pushing it to the exclusion of all else makes you look terrible tbh
 
What's the difference between a mafia and a group of 4+ people that aren't town? Other than that this group apparently not having a kill (unless they've been hiding it this whole time), and if they have no kill the town can just force no lynches forever. Your theory just requires so many assumptions that the fact that you are pushing it to the exclusion of all else makes you look terrible tbh
oh right forgot you were revived. In that case, explain why you were revived. I doubt you'll say you're neutral evven if you are, and if I cared enough about this game then I'd just compare what walrein said to yours since you differ drastically in terms of what you're trying to accomplish so you're more likely to slip up than him.
 
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