Tournament OMPL XIV - Commencement

Hey all! Zas and I are looking to try and win another fun omtt, so if you're willing to tryhard and play for us, provide support, and just in general hang around and provide good vibes then feel free to message one of us on discord (zastra & tttech_). Extra meriting things for us to know are: if you're realistically willing to put in a lot of time and effort (into your slot and others), if you'll be unable to play any given week due to irl commitments or other, if you require any particular support, if you think there's another person / group of people you'd work especially well with, what type of vibes you work best with, any anything else that you think would be good for us to know. We'll probably not do tryouts but if you really want to demonstrate your skills and knowledge then feel free to message us as well! Cheers to another fun season of OMPL.
 
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I am uninvolved with OMPL pretty much entirely, but it is reasons like this that I don't play in tournaments (in addition to being on my 4th chemo & hating scheduling). I only occasionally host a tour like I did during the last OM World Cup.

A decision had to be made, teams were inevitably gonna be snubbed. Icemaster and Fc are no doubt good players and managers but a choice had to be made by the hosts / OM authorities that were involved. I get that it is frustrating but please don't grief them for their choice and try to move on as they just want the best environment for all teams involved.
Nah sorry this is a cop out. Obviously decisions have to be made but decisions can be wrong, and it is everyone's right to voice when they believe a decision is wrong. Even in tours as big as SPL, when there is overwhelming community feedback regarding a particular decision hosts take another look at the matter (take a look at what happened when RBY was very briefly changed to Bo1). I don't believe hosts are being "griefed" here, every post in this thread has been respectful as we know there was no malice involved. It's not really fair to ask people to "try and move on" as if we are not allowed to voice discontent on a situation that was not handled properly, that does not actually cultivate a good tournament environment because you are essentially opening a door where a host's judgement can never be questioned. This was more than just a snub, it was an error in the handling of the entire manager selection process that warrants attention. Please don't be so dismissive of people's concerns as if we're just whining for no reason, it doesn't actually help anything.
 
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For complete transparency I'm stepping down from OM Mod going into this OMPL, but it's not related to this situation or how it was handled as much as a lack of motivation to continue performing in the position after my TL stepdown.

Gholden Witches Discord is open if you'd like to post your resume or other reasons we should consider you for our draft! Link [here] and good luck to our fellow managers!

edit: removed the first bit of my post, realized it came off as throwing my fellow staff members under the bus which isn't my intent. not cool of me, my bad
 
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I will admit to being biased in the sense that I would not have bothered to pitch in if this didn't happen to one of my friends, but the non-impartial nature of manager selection (and related drama) is something that has bothered me even before my "retirement" and recent return to the scene.

Someone noted in the thread that manager signups were set to close once 8 pairs sign up, which I'm not sure is actually the case. In the past, that was not the way it was done. If that is the case, that seems really suboptimal (for reasons already outlined by the previous poster). In general manager signups should be organized such that the most competent (and invested!) possible manager pairs are selected to ensure the fairest and most competitive tour environment. That's my view, at least.

Now, regarding the icemaster situation. We've known each other for a while, as well as managed together multiple times in other tours. I can see where the OM staff's dislike is coming from (although I obviously don't share their sentiment), but I would like to stress that icemaster's public persona has no bearing on the way he performs as a manager.

In fact, I would say that his propensity to "clown around" is part of what makes his team servers an enjoyable environment. Moreover, I can attest to the fact that he is a very competent drafter as well as a great manager in general. I'm sure that he would put the same level of investment into this tournament as he has into those that we've managed together.

And as far as I know, while both Fc and Icemaster are primarily Ubers players (or used to be, back when I was active), they've been consistently active in the OM scene as well (with a great track record tournament-wise), so I don't really see any reason related to ensuring a maximally competitive tournament for why they would not be a good pick.

Of course the final decision is always the hosts prerogative, but given Fc's recounting of the situation, it definitely could have been handled much better , especially on the transparency side.

EDIT: corrected "impartial nature" to non-impartial. Oops. Impartial is good, I meant non-impartial nature.
 
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this community feels unwelcoming to non mainers. i am saying this as a non mainer who used to play OMs relatively actively until last year (and have played oms on and off for longer than most for the record). for a community awarding a ribbon with relatively stable leadership (and host teams) over the years and ~8 forum mods in total, i think we can do better with the manager selection of the biggest tour, especially since similar issues keep coming up year after year, three years in a row now

last year when i typed in #tournaments om discord that sssss will be signing up tonight (this well before the deadline), the managers were announced within hours. one of the host / moderator later mentioned they also read the message but did not think it was serious. Awesome. setting aside the fact that no other ribbon community (atleast without a 24 hour notice) closes signups early when they get 8 good signups, the first 8 good signups doesnt necessarily mean that they will be the best 8 signups. managers should be given time to think if they truly have the time and energy to sit through a potentially 9+ week long tour. if you want people to rush this decision and impulsively signup (and then not give them ample time to delete signup if need be) you can end up with dead teams and managers who dont care about the tour anymore which makes the tour less enjoyable for everyone. i dont really see the need to rush this process. starting OMPL 2 days earlier does not benefit anyone, while giving managers more time to rethink their decisions would help a lot. managers lay the foundation for the team. manager signup phase is arguably the most important phase of the tournament except the auction (and the playing part of course...) player signups can be started parallel to manager signups as well. but then again should we also start closing the player signups when we get 192 good quality signups? this was also pointed out last year but the response was basically "we will make this rule clearer in the op" okay then. not everyone remembers the tour schedules for all the team tours in a year and no one sees "xyz PL Manager Signups" and instantly signs up. most players are playing other tournaments and managing is a commitment so the decision should not be rushed, for good managers atleast

this year is even more confusing to me, ice is now apparently manager banned for a discord ban that happened years ago and was then taken off. to my knowledge ice's trolling or funny (or maybe unfunny to some) has not been harmful to any user any more than the annual shitposting in the commencement threads / whatever the hell goes on in #tournaments outside of tournament discussion everytime i open this server. not only does the manager ban not make sense to me, but not letting fc know about it in a timely manner is also a questionable call (ice's signup happened 4 days before the deadline, so there was ample time to let fc know)

i am curious to hear what the criteria is. i was reading the manager selection discussion in the discord but did not really see anything of substance from the hosts except some silly emojis. there was some discussion about fc and ice not playing in omcl or knowing what is banned and what isnt, but i dont think this is quite the gotcha it might seem to be. no manager pair is expected to be involved in every single tour or involved in the community throughout the year. if they play and win in tournaments that should already speak for itself

the selection discussion should be made more transparent. while i am surprised to see fc and ice not get picked as managers, i am also shocked to see maybca and damflame who actively main oms and do well not get picked either. i dont play or check oms as much as you all but i can personally vouch for maybca, he has joined my teams a couple of times as helper, he is really active and helpful. damflame is a good and active player and i know he has been playing for a very long time now, i remember seeing their name around even when SM was the main gen. seeing them also not get picked is hard to wrap my head around

i will be sitting this tour out regardless of the decision made now but i hope next year the community is in a better spot, so myself and many others who have quit over the years due to these reasons can have another go at what used to be one of the most fun team tours
 
This was more than just a snub, it was an error in the handling of the entire manager selection process that warrants attention.
you should elaborate on this. even calling this a snub is pushing it and i think it'd be easier for hosts to respond if people in this thread did more than throw around unsubstantiated buzzwords. like yeah of course they're silent; the only problem they've been clearly asked to address is not even a real one:

setting aside the fact that no other ribbon community (atleast without a 24 hour notice) closes signups early when they get 8 good signups
they gave 24 hours notice and i'm confident they would have pushed the deadline back further if they were given a reason to.

i dont play or check oms as much as you all
if you did you might notice that four of the selected manager pairings are returning teams from either ompl xiii or omcl i which, particularly with extra info like player feedback that plebians like us aren't given access to, make them reasonably solid locks. of the remaining teams we have:
:gholdengo:akira: former bh council, ompl xiii manager, very active in the community
:gholdengo:april: former room owner, omcl i manager, very active in the community
:hakamo-o:zastra: mnm tier leader, omcl i manager, very active in the community
:hakamo-o:tttech: bh council, prior ompl manager experience, somewhat active in the community
:charizard:atha: aaa council, very active in the community
:charizard:ghostlike: omcl i manager, very active in the community
:marshadow:chessking: om leader, bh tl, ompl xiii and omcl i manager
:marshadow:qt: bh council, aaa council, ompl xiii and omcl i manager

fc is one of the best om players in history but i don't think i would have selected him to be a solo manager. there are clear parallels between someone like him and someone like tttech who also shows up a couple times a year to go for a circuit or ompl win but additionally has zastra there to carry his ass when it comes to knowing mainers as well as less established picks who show promise. i am not remotely surprised that hosts did not message FC and say "we are not drafting you unless you meet our demands of: X, Y, and Z" especially when meeting them and convincing some other goon to sign up instead of icemaster still wouldn't have guaranteed him a team slot. i'm also not sure why everyone assumes the issues are solely with icemaster when there's allegedly so little transparency.
speaking of, i would like to see clarification on what people mean when they talk about transparency. these manager selections are ultimately based on subjective criteria and if people are just looking for ammunition to "prove" that their friend deserves a manager position - which is certainly how things are being presented particularly with damflame and maybca being thrown into this argument so offhandedly - then i think a bit of opaqueness does the community some good.

on a different note: i have not seen pannu's post. i'm not sure how bad it was. i do know, however, that any recent behaviour from him is inconsistent with his established character. he's been a positive contributor in the community for years now and while i acknowledge it's a risk to allow him back into ompl i believe it to be a risk worth taking when he's publicly been consistent in showing remorse for his actions.
UT i don't know if you're open to bribery but if you unban him and he fucks up again i'll take 30 days of cms/analysis community service in his place on top of whatever punishment you give him.
 
me personally the transparency id be looking for is in cases where theres a manager who's qualified but is either signing up with someone who hosts arent fully sure about or someone who's flat out banned. in the former case id express concerns about either activity or playerbase knowledge or metagame knowledge or whatever the reason(s) may be, latter case id express that "hey, youre a qualified pick but your co is manager banned (and mention reasons if you want), if you wanna sign up with a different co thatd be dope". in both cases id be sure to mention that it doesnt guarantee them a slot, but i do think with jordan and word last year and now fc and icemaster/damflame and maybca this year a little more transparency in the decision making process would be helpful.

that isn't to invalidate what hosts decide after all of that, and if at the end of the day they decide that hey, the duo is just less qualified in their eyes then they have the right to do that. it might not be a decision i agree with, and it doesnt have to be because im not the one hosting, but deciding that youre confident in 8 other manager pairings is 100% fair, whereas not disclosing that someone's manager banned feels unfair in my eyes.

im not really here to comment on why ice is manager banned. idk why. i have no issues with the guy but that doesnt mean there for sure arent issues. im all for giving people second chances but again, im not a host, im not a forum mod, you guys have every right to exercise your discretion on bans and stuff. i wont talk about something i dont know about.

fc actually puts in a lot of effort into these things (and tries to make me sign up every time). in the few times we've teamed he's actively supported his own slot while also supporting me whenever i played. he has an ompl win under his belt as a manager - doesn't guarantee he's a good manager by itself, but it should say he isn't awful and coupled with my testimonial i think he's a very qualified manager. i think every other manager pairing that i know is qualified. my point isnt that he's more qualified than the other pairings - i personally think he is, but im not on the hosting team, so that doesnt matter - but moreso that i think it's a waste for him to not have a fair shot at being selected by having it made clear that he wasn't ever going to be selected with ice specifically as his comanager.

damflame and maybca also very much deserved to be managers. idt any of them are manager banned, but in the event that one of them was id still say the other would deserve to know and change their signup accordingly. if youve spent any time around the om community at all youve heard of both (especially damflame, that guy is cracked) and the work ethic that both put into getting results in tournaments is definitely admirable. once again, though, if the decision came down to "damflame and maybca are qualified, we think these 8 duos are more qualified" then that's fine, that's what you're supposed to do as hosts.

i also think people deserve to know when they're manager banned/how long that lasts/why. we publicly let players know when theyre not allowed to be playing in our tours, for how long and why. extending the same courtesy to managers privately just makes sense to me, it feels wrong to let them get hyped up into thinking they have a chance only for them to find out after the managers get picked.

starting OMPL 2 days earlier does not benefit anyone

didnt really have a strong opinion on this until i read lana's segment here and i think this is a fair concern, especially when ompl starts at the same time anyway, its just player signups that are longer. it's not like this is a huge flaw but i do think it's something that can be optimized in future iterations - i dont really see a benefit in moving the deadline up other than theoretically allowing more players in, but these players have two weeks to sign up which is more than enough time since theyre expected to be active throughout the tour. i do appreciate that hosts give a 24 hour notice when the deadline is moved up. i dont think the deadline should be moved up regardless.

re: pannu he's not malicious they're just a little dumb, i get hosts banning someone who says they'll cancer if xyz and dont think the decision is egregious, but knowing their character i hope they get unbanned.
 
you should elaborate on this. even calling this a snub is pushing it and i think it'd be easier for hosts to respond if people in this thread did more than throw around unsubstantiated buzzwords. like yeah of course they're silent; the only problem they've been clearly asked to address is not even a real one:


they gave 24 hours notice and i'm confident they would have pushed the deadline back further if they were given a reason to.


if you did you might notice that four of the selected manager pairings are returning teams from either ompl xiii or omcl i which, particularly with extra info like player feedback that plebians like us aren't given access to, make them reasonably solid locks. of the remaining teams we have:
:gholdengo:akira: former bh council, ompl xiii manager, very active in the community
:gholdengo:april: former room owner, omcl i manager, very active in the community
:hakamo-o:zastra: mnm tier leader, omcl i manager, very active in the community
:hakamo-o:tttech: bh council, prior ompl manager experience, somewhat active in the community
:charizard:atha: aaa council, very active in the community
:charizard:ghostlike: omcl i manager, very active in the community
:marshadow:chessking: om leader, bh tl, ompl xiii and omcl i manager
:marshadow:qt: bh council, aaa council, ompl xiii and omcl i manager

fc is one of the best om players in history but i don't think i would have selected him to be a solo manager. there are clear parallels between someone like him and someone like tttech who also shows up a couple times a year to go for a circuit or ompl win but additionally has zastra there to carry his ass when it comes to knowing mainers as well as less established picks who show promise. i am not remotely surprised that hosts did not message FC and say "we are not drafting you unless you meet our demands of: X, Y, and Z" especially when meeting them and convincing some other goon to sign up instead of icemaster still wouldn't have guaranteed him a team slot. i'm also not sure why everyone assumes the issues are solely with icemaster when there's allegedly so little transparency.
speaking of, i would like to see clarification on what people mean when they talk about transparency. these manager selections are ultimately based on subjective criteria and if people are just looking for ammunition to "prove" that their friend deserves a manager position - which is certainly how things are being presented particularly with damflame and maybca being thrown into this argument so offhandedly - then i think a bit of opaqueness does the community some good.

on a different note: i have not seen pannu's post. i'm not sure how bad it was. i do know, however, that any recent behaviour from him is inconsistent with his established character. he's been a positive contributor in the community for years now and while i acknowledge it's a risk to allow him back into ompl i believe it to be a risk worth taking when he's publicly been consistent in showing remorse for his actions.
UT i don't know if you're open to bribery but if you unban him and he fucks up again i'll take 30 days of cms/analysis community service in his place on top of whatever punishment you give him.
pretty ridiculous post

i respect the managers picked and im not saying any of them are bad picks but if we talking about accomplishments then fc/ice not being picked looks worse not better

akira has 1 ompl managing run and missed playoffs. april has 0 ompl managing exp and finished last in omcl. ghostlike finished 6th in omcl and atha has no managing exp afaik. ghastly/adrian are mostly mnmpl + 1 omcl semis run. prunny/lightning finished 7th in omcl and made mnmpl finals ig.

none of that means they shouldnt be picked, but fc literally won ompl as manager in 2023 and made finals again in 2024. thats prob the most relevant thing u can have for this tour. ice also has a ton of PL managing exp, good OM results, OM council/history stuff, and both have been around high level team tours like scl for years. u ideally want ur most competitive team tour to have the best managers possible

and for extra context, in gen 9 alone fc was stab council, and ice was in mnm council. ice also won mnm ssnl, bh ssnl, pl as "manager", and omwc. fc won ompl 3x (1 as manager), gg ssnl, and OMGS. this is much more than every pair except sammyce just on the individual level

also ye fc shouldnt just auto get picked solo after ice got banned. but thats not the point. fc signed up with ice because he didnt know ice was basically a dead slot. if ice was manager banned, tell fc before the deadline so he can find someone else. nobody said changing co-manager should guarantee him a slot, it just gives him an actual chance. this was an absolutely terrible process from them.

and ice being manager banned here is bs too if this is really about personal issues or an om discord ban from like 3 years ago. idk why that outweighs actual tour history, results, and positive team environments. being manager banned from a section u havent even managed on paper is stupid (especially when ice himself was a huge reason his teams won ompl when he was just a player), and fc only finding out after it was too late makes it even worse

also “why assume its only icemaster” doesnt make sense when the explanation people got was literally that fc didnt get picked cause ice was manager banned. did u even read the posts?

overall it just looks like hosts wanted to make room for newer omcl/mnmpl managers over the most established duo in gen 9 ompl history. thats their choice ig, but dont act like this was some obvious resume decision when fc/ice have one of the best recent ompl resumes here. and again all of this is fine still (well not really but as u said its all subjective and comes down to the host's decision, no matter how incompetent their criteria can look). the major problem is how they havent told fc ANYTHING about the ice ban until it was too late

picked managers can be fine and fc/ice rejection can still be handled badly. both can be true. calling it friendgroup complaining just ignores the actual point

e. pannu clearly had an ego trip and wasnt aware of the rules when he was trying to be nonchalant and cool, but i think he got humbled now. he should get a chance. turn his ban into a warning imo
 
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you should elaborate on this. even calling this a snub is pushing it and i think it'd be easier for hosts to respond if people in this thread did more than throw around unsubstantiated buzzwords. like yeah of course they're silent; the only problem they've been clearly asked to address is not even a real one:
From what I understand ice is essentially manager banned but neither him nor Fc were informed of this. Even if you don't want to formally announce it anywhere, Fc should have been notified since he deserves the opportunity to select a new coman. And if you think that's not the proper course of action you'd just be wrong as this has literally happened in officials as well which is the gold standard of precedent. I'm not going to name who it was because I don't actually know if it is common knowledge, but a manager who was most definitely a lock otherwise was told he needed a new coman to be considered as a manager. And I think it's just silly to say it's not a snub because other managers here have managed ompl when they don't have the results that Fc and Ice have, both as managers and players. It's true other people may be more involved in the community but if you have two guys who are pretty much guaranteed to make playoffs, are top tier support, and create the best team servers which I can attest to from personal experience, I fail to see how they could just be dropped without any form of explanation.
 
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mayonnaise. mayo.6000
teamo3500
aidan amoongus3000
SEROO3000
sleepyfwog3000
TGK3000
duckycrater3000
The Hisui Region3000
Chromate23500
Iride13500
O1V7O2X9O13500
Tempo di anguria8000
lepton8000
quojova7500
GlalieGoesBoom6000
Nashrock6000
Clem5000
seth3000
Smallsmallrose3000
Fluore3000
seraphz25000
Fusien20500
Mada12500
feen11000
MZ5500
FlamPoke5500
xdRudi.exe4500
The Strap3500
cheru3000
fakenagol3000
SeaLife3000
Chris321563000
Treeko92816000
Glory14000
pecha nerd12000
Greybaum10000
Slikkles7000
pdt6000
Fragments5500
eeriespell5000
a fairy4000
maybca4000
Delibird Heart3000
HiZo0
Baddy18000
Ren16000
XYStarshine13000
Idyll9000
qtfox9000
TrainerGoldAlt8000
Viola ~ Lunala ^﹏^6500
lag=bad5000
rightclicker5000
Fardin4000
Mewtwo's Greatest Soldier3000
PenultimateToast3000
shiloh19000
Kinetic16500
LogIce6500
Mindnight6500
solrock the great5000
LordBox5000
vnmmv3000
Ducky3000
Pokemh3000
Quinn3000
SammyCe1230
Ivar570
Frixel15000
Osake12500
db11500
The Guy Who Has Many Alts10000
cat8000
jb2917000
Mok3s5500
Mincera315000
sky4500
Electra1024500
Rei3000
QT0
Betticus IV30000Ao No Hakamo-o
damflame 325500Gholden Witches
seraphz25000Charming Charizzards
Clas25000Ao No Hakamo-o
Chromate23500MOCCing Machamps
Fusien20500Charming Charizzards
shiloh19000Bastardly Darkrais
Baddy18000Noxious Nightshades
RoFnA17500Gholden Witches
Kinetic16500Bastardly Darkrais
Treeko92816000Commanders
Ren16000Noxious Nightshades
Frixel15000Speiraskia Specters
Glory14000Commanders
Iride13500MOCCing Machamps
O1V7O2X9O13500MOCCing Machamps
XYStarshine13000Noxious Nightshades
Mada12500Charming Charizzards
Osake12500Speiraskia Specters
pecha nerd12000Commanders
db11500Speiraskia Specters
feen11000Charming Charizzards
DragonPhoenix33310000Ao No Hakamo-o
Greybaum10000Commanders
The Guy Who Has Many Alts10000Speiraskia Specters
Idyll9000Noxious Nightshades
betathunder9000Gholden Witches
qtfox9000Noxious Nightshades
ExguardiaN8500Gholden Witches
tkhanh8500Gholden Witches
TrainerGoldAlt8000Noxious Nightshades
Tempo di anguria8000MOCCing Machamps
lepton8000MOCCing Machamps
cat8000Speiraskia Specters
aerobee7500Gholden Witches
Hiusi guy7500Ao No Hakamo-o
quojova7500MOCCing Machamps
Slikkles7000Commanders
jb2917000Speiraskia Specters
LogIce6500Bastardly Darkrais
Mindnight6500Bastardly Darkrais
Viola ~ Lunala ^﹏^6500Noxious Nightshades
mayonnaise. mayo.6000Ao No Hakamo-o
GlalieGoesBoom6000MOCCing Machamps
Nashrock6000MOCCing Machamps
pdt6000Commanders
Mok3s5500Speiraskia Specters
Les2BG5500Gholden Witches
MZ5500Charming Charizzards
Fragments5500Commanders
FlamPoke5500Charming Charizzards
lag=bad5000Noxious Nightshades
solrock the great5000Bastardly Darkrais
Clem5000MOCCing Machamps
rightclicker5000Noxious Nightshades
matte5000Gholden Witches
eeriespell5000Commanders
Mincera315000Speiraskia Specters
LordBox5000Bastardly Darkrais
sky4500Speiraskia Specters
xdRudi.exe4500Charming Charizzards
Electra1024500Speiraskia Specters
a fairy4000Commanders
maybca4000Commanders
Fardin4000Noxious Nightshades
about15gals3500Gholden Witches
hxmo3500Gholden Witches
The Strap3500Charming Charizzards
teamo3500Ao No Hakamo-o
vnmmv3000Bastardly Darkrais
seth3000MOCCing Machamps
Mewtwo's Greatest Soldier3000Noxious Nightshades
aidan amoongus3000Ao No Hakamo-o
Ducky3000Bastardly Darkrais
SEROO3000Ao No Hakamo-o
cheru3000Charming Charizzards
fakenagol3000Charming Charizzards
Rei3000Speiraskia Specters
Irys3000Gholden Witches
Smallsmallrose3000MOCCing Machamps
Fluore3000MOCCing Machamps
SeaLife3000Charming Charizzards
PenultimateToast3000Noxious Nightshades
sleepyfwog3000Ao No Hakamo-o
Pokemh3000Bastardly Darkrais
TGK3000Ao No Hakamo-o
Chris321563000Charming Charizzards
duckycrater3000Ao No Hakamo-o
Quinn3000Bastardly Darkrais
The Hisui Region3000Ao No Hakamo-o
Delibird Heart3000Commanders
Kafkafka3000Gholden Witches
SammyCe1230Bastardly Darkrais
Ivar570Bastardly Darkrais
HiZo0Commanders
QT0Speiraskia Specters

MOCC 3 AT LAST
 
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