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Open Setup Classic Mafia - Game Thread
- Thread starter NightEmerald
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I was right to be skeptical of this setup in proposals stage but was willing to try it because this is legit played on showdown all the time and you would assume they somewhat know what they’re doing over there enough for it to be playable so I assumed I was wrong.
Turns out I was right which is fine but rough way to find out
Don’t steal showdown setups in the future (using one as a base and editing it to be balanced is fine) bc this setup is so unbelievably anti-mafia it hurts. This was true before phoopes claimed so it’s another level now.
There is zero skill expression for mafia, mafia is essentially 3 vanillas passively hoping they don’t get fucked by werewolf while town still has a turtle comp that removes any nightkill strategy, even WITH them voting out doc D1. Imagine if pulsar had claimed and survived, what exactly are mafia supposed to be doing in this game? We did our job getting towncored by everyone, a fairy has literally been number one on every reads list in this game, and that doesn’t matter because town also has a straight up cop?? Why?? How do people play this LMFAO
We can’t even annoy the werewolf, who we easily identified D1. Can’t kill or hook them, nor anything else.
NightEmerald turn on hammer
##VOTE: a fairy
Turns out I was right which is fine but rough way to find out
Don’t steal showdown setups in the future (using one as a base and editing it to be balanced is fine) bc this setup is so unbelievably anti-mafia it hurts. This was true before phoopes claimed so it’s another level now.
There is zero skill expression for mafia, mafia is essentially 3 vanillas passively hoping they don’t get fucked by werewolf while town still has a turtle comp that removes any nightkill strategy, even WITH them voting out doc D1. Imagine if pulsar had claimed and survived, what exactly are mafia supposed to be doing in this game? We did our job getting towncored by everyone, a fairy has literally been number one on every reads list in this game, and that doesn’t matter because town also has a straight up cop?? Why?? How do people play this LMFAO
We can’t even annoy the werewolf, who we easily identified D1. Can’t kill or hook them, nor anything else.
NightEmerald turn on hammer
##VOTE: a fairy
Ik there have been people wanting rigged setups for town so they can win I hope this is as fun for you as you imagined
Personally I dislike rigged setups either way because getting saved by mech is a hollow victory
Can’t believe you voted out obvtown DBD when he’s been asking for one of these rigged setups for ages
Personally I dislike rigged setups either way because getting saved by mech is a hollow victory
Can’t believe you voted out obvtown DBD when he’s been asking for one of these rigged setups for ages
EBWOP sorry that made no sense
(It’s not rigged because we were redchecked it’s rigged because town has too many named town and a cop who can either clear more town or red check us, and werewolf can only die via votes, and all the protection means we can’t even go for the cop if they just claim. Cop can claim D1 if they want and as long as town doesn’t try and vote all the docs (which this town did, even voted one out altogether!) they literally just autowin or werewolf wins. phoopes shored up his team sucking this time around with good cop hits but if he had copped VTs town still probably wins from here lol!)
A long time ago it seems
The last time we were town and not at each others throats was even longer
Nah they play this on showdown forums lol!
Oh lmao
Some of your critiques are valid but it’s not as unbalanced as you say tbh, but also you were the approved right
Ultimately if a game has third party, everyone’s win chance goes down
is that even possible
And you also are aware that the game isn’t even over of course, town can vote the tow red checks now and still be in mylo after two misvotes at the end of it depending on the werewolf kill
The shortening of win chance is the werewolf sucking it up from either team, mafia is currently ahead of town though still even with two red checks d3 perfect cop game
The shortening of win chance is the werewolf sucking it up from either team, mafia is currently ahead of town though still even with two red checks d3 perfect cop game
it's not a kingmaker though because werewolf can kill mafia's last and we can't do the same to werewolf
mafia have lost even in the worst case timeline for town!
It is because you need town to vote werewolf knowing we lose to mafia
and ye I was the approver but I am less confident balancing low power games vs role madness (just have less experience in it, you can tell by including Bell Ringer in Low Power Mafia when that role could have just not existed (or remove the Careful Town I just added an extra named town for ??? no reason)) so since it was a stolen setup I largely checked to see if it looked playable
and you approved the other low power game that I didn't think was balanced so my confidence in being correct was short term low with low power games lol
but yea it's a lesson mostly for me this this setup is not balanced