Open Setup Classic Mafia - Game Thread

[joey]

I don't disagree that the setup seems questionable esp on Smogon, but I do think the current situation we are in is more of a product of phoopes being cracked rather than the setup being imbalanced

 

[joey]

Like if we didn't have 2 redchecks here town is in a pretty dire situation without jailkeeper and down a doctor

 

[apricity]

Now that it’s confirmed that they’re not on a team, I still don’t understand how this Evie/tommy thing happened on page 19

 

[apricity]

Ok so this does mean that I got shot at n1 btw

 

[joey]

Ok so this does mean that I got shot at n1 btw

you or the werewolf (if those are two different people)

 

[apricity]

a fairy
AirC
apricity
Celever
Evie
ItsScaryCary
joey
phoopes
realiti
Tommy

Ok so where am I at

Phoopes MVP
Hal, Evie PR

Cel, Fairy scum

Leaving AirC, Scarycary, Joey, Realiti, Tommy

Within which contains two baddies

AirC and Realiti are interesting slots because they were AFK slots while we were talking about which AFK to lynch, and they were all interchangeable

Fairy and Cel both have been playing games that seemed a little knowy (fairy on the wagon d1 and cel on the Evie thing d2) so that suggests to me that towns been choosing between two bad options for a while

10 alive, let’s say we lynch Evie/cel and scum/WW worst case shoot 4 town. So that brings us to 4 alive

That would put us in a kingmake position, right?

 

[apricity]

you or the werewolf (if those are two different people)

Well, cel was saying they pegged WW n1 quite proudly so I assume they didn’t peg it and then shoot it

 

[apricity]

Can we all agree that if WW doesn't kill mafia tonight we automatically kingmaker mafia

Everything realiti says just resonates with me man

 

[apricity]

you or the werewolf (if those are two different people)

I think I mechanically can’t be WW, outside of the un-CC’d PR thing, because I got jailkept so the second shot can’t have gone off.

Unless, of course, I used the one shot strongman on day 1 to kill chickening.

 

[apricity]

Celever a fairy do yall know who the WW are for sure?

 

[apricity]

(It’s not rigged because we were redchecked it’s rigged because town has too many named town and a cop who can either clear more town or red check us, and werewolf can only die via votes, and all the protection means we can’t even go for the cop if they just claim. Cop can claim D1 if they want and as long as town doesn’t try and vote all the docs (which this town did, even voted one out altogether!) they literally just autowin or werewolf wins. phoopes shored up his team sucking this time around with good cop hits but if he had copped VTs town still probably wins from here lol!)

You have a hook.

 

[Celever]

Celever a fairy do yall know who the WW are for sure?

icncnd

 

[apricity]

A long time ago it seems

The last time we were town and not at each others throats was even longer

What was the actual game

 

[Celever]

You have a hook.

that dies if we rand target and target werewolf so we have to target werewolf first

and means we can't win endgame scenarios because wolf can kill us but we can't kill them even if we both know who each other are

setup's scuffed but move past it til postgame imo

 

[Celever]

that dies if we rand target and target werewolf so we have to target werewolf first

and means we can't win endgame scenarios because wolf can kill us but we can't kill them even if we both know who each other are

setup's scuffed but move past it til postgame imo

have to identify werewolf first* ykwim

 

[apricity]

that dies if we rand target and target werewolf so we have to target werewolf first

and means we can't win endgame scenarios because wolf can kill us but we can't kill them even if we both know who each other are

setup's scuffed but move past it til postgame imo

You said you can’t do anything against follow the cop

But you have a hook

 

[apricity]

This is great

This means that Cel and Fairy, two people I expect to play plenty more games with, aren’t stupid + ragebaiting, they just drew different alignments

This is awesome!

 

[Celever]

You said you can’t do anything against follow the cop

But you have a hook

what I mean is 3 protectives for one cop is batshit insane lol

we can hook one doc but both should target an early cop claim so that doesn't work!

this game very much went our way since y'all voted out the doc D1 and forced the other doc to claim D2 and we've still auto-lost

if the game didn't go this bad for town we'd auto-lose harder the setup's bad lol

 

[apricity]

what I mean is 3 protectives for one cop is batshit insane lol

we can hook one doc but both should target an early cop claim so that doesn't work!

this game very much went our way since y'all voted out the doc D1 and forced the other doc to claim D2 and we've still auto-lost

if the game didn't go this bad for town we'd auto-lose harder the setup's bad lol

You said that you can’t do anything against follow the cop

I am informing you that you can hook the fucking cop

 

[Tommy]

phoopes either the whole celever setup stuff I wouldn’t read into it like 2 red checks in a row is cracked either way goat carry stuff, using that to balance a setup isn’t fair

I do believe he’s legit frustrated but he is also strategically doomering to make mafia look worse than their are hoping the werewolf might throw for them

In reality mafia are still like slightly ahead of town, and werewolf is probably looking really sweet rn

 

[Celever]

You said that you can’t do anything against follow the cop

I am informing you that you can hook the fucking cop

..........

ok that's an oversight from me

 

[apricity]

phoopes either the whole celever setup stuff I wouldn’t read into it like 2 red checks in a row is cracked either way goat carry stuff, using that to balance a setup isn’t fair

I do believe he’s legit frustrated but he is also strategically doomering to make mafia look worse than their are hoping the werewolf might throw for them

In reality mafia are still like slightly ahead of town, and werewolf is probably looking really sweet rn

I don’t even know what to do right now actually

Is hammer on?

 

[Tommy]

Ok so this does mean that I got shot at n1 btw

Mafia shot werewolf presuming celever wasn’t lying about them finding out who the obvious werewolf was early

 

[joey]

I think I mechanically can’t be WW, outside of the un-CC’d PR thing, because I got jailkept so the second shot can’t have gone off.

Unless, of course, I used the one shot strongman on day 1 to kill chickening.

I forgot for a second you were a PR lmao

I don't follow your logic otherwise since if you were theoretically jailed WW that would mean mafia killed chickening and explain why there was only one kill. But it doesn't matter anyway

 

[Celever]

is it BM if I confirm whether we shot the werewolf or not