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a fairy said:
wtf are irl mods?
modifications? tattoos??
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Yeah I mean some people count tattoos but I don’t really think they count

Stuff like piercings count more it’s like changes to skin

And forking tongues which is something that actually happens but looks freaky to me

I’ve got ear piercings but I think in body mod circles it’s only considered a mod if you get a gauge
 
Tommy said:
Celever ok so here’s my thing

I’m not trying to flame and I don’t want to but I just want it to be clear because ur feels like you guys are setting up for a kingmaker and going to be blindsided that you’re going to auto lose, here’s why

I think you know me as a player and this is going to tap into org perspective a bit but for me I really value people who are strong and play to win on their own agency, they don’t like happen to end up in it, that’s why going for a kingmaker over a skill based fair play endgame to me is something I personally don’t approve of, if you choose then that’s fine that’s your call but it will effect everyone’s view on how mafia have played

Again I’m not trying to be toxic or mean just clear but here’s like your conception right

You haven’t really helped us which is of course not expected you are mafia, even today you haven’t really told us anything sure you’ve been open and it’s fun(ny) but in real terms you haven’t given us anything

If you want town to ever consider kingmake for you, you have to ask on what actual basis are we doing so, we currently have you or a werewolf

Here’s why I want to vote for the werewolf over you guys if it came to it

1) werewolf has town sided as much as reasonably possible
2) the werewolf by the time we get to that point will have played optimally (if they choose to do so) to get a win with as much agency as possible
3) werewolf did not turn down a chance to win the game with skill for a small chance with luck

I kind of understand your concerns with the hook but ultimately like the odds of 1 mafia in a game with 4 players is very high - there’s a lot of confusion and I actually with all my heart believe the chance I’ve offered you guys, a competitive endgame more often than not ends in mafia win

So like yes there is a fear of what if you are caught but any of 5 players can be voted and you essentially get to pick which 3 make it assuming you don’t get super unlucky with the hook

But instead of a more likely mafia win you want us, the town you are unwilling to go head to head with as we are willing to bet the game so that we can have agency and have a real win, to kingmake for you - it makes no sense why after that we would hand you a free diplomatic win, even if it wasn’t blackmail and this was never mentioned why in that moment would town ever let mafia get rewarded

So here’s the thing then, you can even give the werewolf and have a chance at probably winning the game, being actually favourites in a skill based real ending, or you can watch town make a guess and if they miss werewolf then you are essentially deciding werewolf probably wins because you are afraid of playing town in an actual! Game of mafia

And maybe this is blackmail but I feel like this is all going to be brought up at 2-1-1 anyways, so it might as well be now before you doom both of our alignments
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I was entertaining a world where Tommy is WW but I feel like this post is too towny

I think its just airc scum joey WW
 
There is still time for Celever to come to his senses and realize it's a better play for him to reveal who the werewolf is

Assuming he does genuinely know
 
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