Oh great find! Thanks. Never heard of this (though not surprised it's a thing that exists)
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Oh great find! Thanks. Never heard of this (though not surprised it's a thing that exists)
The Gen 6 & 3 starter stones and Baxcalibur are exclusive to the ranked rewards, so no.
on the bright side they're all still in the rewards iirc so by the time swampert is out you can just get one of those free weeks and get them al in one go!
In FRLG, what determines the sprite a trainer will take on in the Union Room? (e.g. Bug Catcher, Cooltrainer)
Seems like in every other title this is customisable in some fashion, but I haven't seen anywhere how these games do it.
Seems like in every other title this is customisable in some fashion, but I haven't seen anywhere how these games do it.
https://github.com/pret/pokefirered/blob/338ec9d956fcd39f4bbb361b444ded3eec8e9425/src/union_room_player_avatar.c#L127
C:
// Gender and trainer id are used to determine which sprite a player appears as
static u8 GetUnionRoomPlayerGraphicsId(u32 gender, u32 id)
{
return sUnionRoomObjGfxIds[gender][id % NUM_UNION_ROOM_CLASSES];
}https://github.com/pret/pokefirered/blob/master/src/union_room_player_avatar.c#L32
C:
// + 2 is just to match, those elements are empty and never read
// Graphics ids should correspond with the classes in gUnionRoomFacilityClasses
static const u8 sUnionRoomObjGfxIds[GENDER_COUNT][NUM_UNION_ROOM_CLASSES + 2] = {
[MALE] = {
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_COOLTRAINER_M,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_BLACKBELT,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_CAMPER,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_YOUNGSTER,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_BOY,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_BUG_CATCHER,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_MAN,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_ROCKER
},
[FEMALE] = {
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_COOLTRAINER_F,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_CHANNELER,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_PICNICKER,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_LASS,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_WOMAN_1,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_BATTLE_GIRL,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_WOMAN_2,
OBJ_EVENT_GFX_BEAUTY
}
};Pretty much just based on your gender and taking the trainer ID modulo 8 to get the corresponding array entry.
This calculator lists out the same results (with some more specific trainer class names) and also other phenomena determined by ID like Secret Base trainer sprites.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230328152848/http://pokecheats.net/tools/calculators.php?do=trainer
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Ah, I thought it'd probably be the same as RSE. Thanks. Also just remembered you can't actually change it in those games (as opposed to DPPTHGSS).
I'm curious, does the Repeat Ball have any functionality in the Orre-based games?
The only situation I could think of this actually affecting would be on the Electabuzz in XD if you got the Elekid from Hordel and evolved it, but just wondering.
The only situation I could think of this actually affecting would be on the Electabuzz in XD if you got the Elekid from Hordel and evolved it, but just wondering.
almost any shadow mon in XD is technically possible to take advantage of since you can just get them from Miror B rematches after trading is unlocked, plus a few in colosseum like Togetic and the starters would also be possible. All of this would require trading the mons in after that functionality is unlocked though
Poke Spots.
Yeah it works normally.
It is possible to trade eggs (assuming that FRLG has completed the Celio quest or the Pokémon contained is in the Kanto dex).
It is not possible to respawn Raikou/Entei if they flee with Roar reset your game without saving if that happens or lose the beast forever.
Why does this happen?
I don't have the decompilation handy, but it seems pretty self-explanatory. When the battle ends, the game needs to check how it ends to know if it should despawn the roamer or not. Exit via roar either mistakenly has the despawn flag enabled like catching or KOing does, or (in my opinion the more likely scenario) it lacks the flag to keep the roamer around like either party running does.
Though something to remember about this is that this is only a glitch in the Western Versions. In Japanese versions if Entei or Raikou used Roar they'll still be roaming.
This still can work with what Ironmage said. I somewhat agree with their opinion that Roaming Pokemon have a flag which designates them as currently roaming; however I think that when you encounter them the flag becomes disabled and needs to be reenabled if the Roamer runs away (I think GF would prefer this approach as, incase a glitch happened, it's more likely the flag will remain disabled (thus no more will spawn, sucks for the player but the player could always reset in such extreme cases) instead of the flag remaining active thus giving letting players catch multiples of the same Legendary). Since GF decided to
Translating a game from one language to another has many nuances, one being you need to make sure any translation done in one place in the code is carried out throughout all the coding; and that's when oversights can easily happen. This is only a hypothesis, but my guess is when they translated the code for Roar and Whirlwind they didn't realize the roamer's flag had exceptions programmed in for those Moves that the translated code has now disconnected. Thus, when they use Roar or you use Whirlwind on them in the Western versions, the flag isn't reenabled and thus they're permanetly lost.
Trading Eggs is locked behind having the National Dex specifically, and the check would prevent all Eggs in general even those containing Kanto mons.
https://github.com/pret/pokefirered/blob/7e3f822652ecce0c99b626d74f455c3b93660377/src/trade.c#L2759
This is kind of relevant now that FRLG 2026 has patched it, and it turns out this was related to fixing an undocumented RS bug all along in terms of why it was introduced.
C:
if (gBattleTypeFlags & BATTLE_TYPE_ROAMER)
{
UpdateRoamerHPStatus(&gEnemyParty[0]);
#if defined(BUGFIX) || REVISION >= 0xA
if ((gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_WON) || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_CAUGHT || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_DREW)
#else
if ((gBattleOutcome & B_OUTCOME_WON) || gBattleOutcome == B_OUTCOME_CAUGHT) // Bug: When Roar is used by roamer, gBattleOutcome is B_OUTCOME_PLAYER_TELEPORTED (5).
#endif // & with B_OUTCOME_WON (1) will return TRUE and deactivates the roamer.In RS they didn't handle the draw outcome to despawn roamers, so if you explode on Latias/Latios and kill them while whiting out, they'll still be roaming at 0HP.
In GBA FRLG they check for gBattleOutcome & B_OUTCOME_WON (bitwise AND on 1) instead of == to handle both the WON (1) and DREW (3) cases, but this also leads to returning true on teleport/roars (5) which infamously despawns them.
So in Switch FRLG they just check equality for each win/catch/draw battle outcome individually to despawn the roamer now.