ORAS Doubles Viability Rankings [Nominations]

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: Yes
Slowbro to drop to B: No
Raikou to rise to B-: No
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: No
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: no
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes
Slowbro to drop to B: no
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: No
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+:Yes
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: No
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: Yes
 

Pastelle

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: no
Zapdos to rise to B+: no
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes
Slowbro to drop to B: no
Raikou to rise to B-: yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: abstain
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yesyesyes Lando-I doesn't have to run life orb all the time. It can run scarf to epic success
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: abstain
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: no
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: no
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: no
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-:no
 

Arcticblast

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: No
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: Yes
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: Abstain
 

Electrolyte

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: No
Zapdos to rise to B+: No
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: Yes
 

Bughouse

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: No
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: No
 

Idyll

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: No
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: Yes
 

13ulbasaur

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: No
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: No
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: No
 
Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: Abstain
Zapdos to rise to B+: Yes
Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: No
 

  1. Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: Yes
    Klefki to drop to B-: Yes
    Landorus-I to rise to B: No
    Zapdos to rise to B+: Yes
    Slowbro to drop to B: Yes
    Raikou to rise to B-: Yes
    Mega Altaria to rise to B-: Yes
 

Austin

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: no
Klefki to drop to B-: yes
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes
Slowbro to drop to B: yes
Raikou to rise to B-: no
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: yes
 

xzern

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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes, it's 99% outclassed by sylveon in what it does
Klefki to drop to B-: yes, its outclassed by thunudurs when it comes to utility but not once thundurus gets banned for being overpowered hehe bwoi
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes its a super good attacker albeit slow but it works well under tailwind
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes, decent tailwind setter with good typing
Slowbro to drop to B: yes, cresselia is like 10000% better hello
Raikou to rise to B-: abstain
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: no i have been using it with ddance recently and it is honestly not that bad, albeit somewhat underwhelming. i'm on the fence about this though because sylveon is usually always the answer for a fairy type attacker
 
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Mega Gardevoir to drop to B+: yes. See the two nomination posts.
Klefki to drop to B-: yes. It's too predictable which makes handling it not too difficult
Landorus-I to rise to B: yes. It's a very strong attacker and it bypasses Intimidate/WoW unlike every other Ground-type. You have to get around forgoing Lando-T though but otherwise it's fine
Zapdos to rise to B+: yes. Tbf it kinda fits between all the B mons and the B+ mons. It's a bulky Tailwind that has good SpA too and good typing too. If Suicune's in A rank, Zapdos deserves this.
Slowbro to drop to B: yes. I can use Cress as a bulky TR user, or Jellicent if I don't want to use the Mega slot, and these days, the Mega Slot has a high opportunity cost. If only MegaBro's ability was better
Raikou to rise to B-: yes. Helpful if you want a fast Electric-type with good bulk, better stat spread than Thundurus-I. Kinda suffers from realising when it's more useful on the team than another Pokemon, but that's why it's B- and not higher.
Mega Altaria to rise to B-: no. It really needs to get a DD boost to get going. 110 offence is kinda a let down for a Mega, even with Pixilate, and 75/110/105 isn't a standout for a Mega either. Not that its stats are bad, but I would really like either more power or more bulk to make good use of the Mega slot when it faces competition even with non-Mega Pokemon like Azumarill as a Fairy physical attacker.
 

xzern

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  • Mega Gardevoir drops to B+
  • Klefki drops to B-
  • Landorus-I rises to B
  • Zapdos rises to B+
  • Slowbro drops to B
  • Raikou stays in C+
  • Mega Altaria rises to B-
i've also taken the liberty of splitting up the C rank, so we have a preliminary C- rank now.
this round, discuss nominations for pokemon to rise/drop to the C+, C, C-, D, and E (unlisted) ranks.
 

Bughouse

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I don't particularly care about C rank and below, but here are a few mons that are at least somewhat viable (some more viable than others) and probably deserve to be moved out of E rank into the realms of visibility (plenty of them above C rank, at that):

Niche FM/RP users
Tangela
Electivire
Pachirisu
Magmar
Non-Mega Blastoise

...which got me thinking about other Non-Megas that are definitely viable but only the Mega is ranked
Non-Mega Latias
Non-Mega Manectric
Non-Mega Diancie
Non-Mega Gengar
Non-Mega Scizor

And a few other random ones:
Deoxys-S
Crobat
Rhydon
Raichu
 

xzern

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Mega Heracross: B -> C+

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heracross, while functioning o.k. in tailwind, isnt really good enough for B rank anymore. It's 100% hard countered by aegislash and landorus-t, two incredibly common pokemon on the ladder. it also has nothing for literally any flying type other than rock blast, and every single flying type outspeeds it anyway.

also i was about to nominate some of the things that srk listed but i dont want to make every nom lol
 

Yellow Paint

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Meloetta for C

It has a pretty okay set with av and it has unique typing and good stats. rip sub mixed relic song tho ;;

Meloetta @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 108 HP / 80 Atk / 64 Def / 108 SpA / 36 SpD / 112 Spe
Naive Nature
- Relic Song
- Drain Punch
- Psychic
- Substitute
 
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