Metagame ORAS LC

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Why play ORAS?

It’s balanced and diverse: The meta has a wide range of viable threats and playstyles, but none of these are overcentralizing. It’s not at all uncommon to see 12 different Pokemon in a battle.

It’s accessible: The meta is similar enough to SS LC that a player without any prior experience can pick it up fairly quickly. Many of the same threats are here, and the ones that don’t are replaced with mons that fulfill similar niches, such as Fletchling over Grookey.

It’s underdeveloped: The meta is still largely in the same state that it’s been in since the end of Gen VI, meaning that it’s ripe for more optimization and the rediscovery of viable Pokemon and sets that were previously unused.

If you want to play, shoot me a PM on discord at gali#1650--I’ll always be happy to play!

Banlist

Pokemon: :scyther: :sneasel: :tangela: :yanma: :gligar: :swirlix: :murkrow: :meditite: :misdreavus: :drifloon:
Abilities: Moody
Moves: Sonicboom, Dragon Rage, Swagger, Baton Pass

Viability Rankings

Sample Teams

:mienfoo: :fletchling: :magnemite: :foongus: :drilbur: :abra:
VoltTurn
:surskit: :gastly: :pawniard: :archen: :mienfoo: :abra:
Gastbra Webs
:porygon: :staryu: :mienfoo: :vullaby: :spritzee: :diglett:
PorySpritz Balance
:foongus: :gothita: :mienfoo: :onix: :porygon: :timburr:
Dual Fight
:corphish: :chinchou: :foongus: :pawniard: :mienfoo: :archen:
Water Spam
:pawniard: :mienfoo: :fletchling: :foongus: :archen: :diglett:
Bird Spam
:snivy: :snubbull: :chinchou: :pawniard: :archen: :mienfoo:
Snivy Offense
:fletchling: :shellder: :pawniard: :mienfoo: :snubbull: :diglett:
Fletchling+Shellder Offense

You can find more teams on the RoA Sample Teams page!
 
Dropping a quick VR now that LCWC is over. Expect something longer-form with more detailed thoughts on these rankings Soon. Everything C2 and below are unordered. There's been a lot of movement in the meta in the last few months and I'm excited to see what happens in the run of tours leading up to LCPL!
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Lets save this thread, this is tazz personal archetype tier rank(which we will be using for a lack of a better source), and I will be posting teams and explaining how each of them work so more people get into ORAS

S
Flying spam :archen::vullaby: :fletchling:

A
Ebutton+trapper
Bulky Balance (LilyAC type teams)
Para Spam

B
Shell Smash
Webs
Zigzagoon
Sun
LarvTurn
 
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You can make almost anything work in ORAS, so some of those categories (like bulky balance) are encompassing a ton of variety. With some exceptions, you can usually tech any team to do especially well against some of those archetypes. Still, if archetypes help you build, I think it's a useful list.

Here's my personal VR, everything B2 and above is ordered.

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S - A: The most metagame defining Pokemon. Any competent team has to have a plan to deal with them. they are the most splashable Pokemon in the metagame.
B: Great pokemon, but can't be slapped on just any team like the Pokemon above them can. They're less prepared for as a result, so are deadly on the right team.
C1: I've used most of these Pokemon once or twice, but this is light mu fishing territory for me. If they hit their mus they're decent, but may leave you a little bit worse off if not.
C2: Same as the above, but you'd be even more worse off if you don't hit your matchup (Rufflet is the exception, but I downgraded it because of the luck factor).
D: Hopefully the opponent doesn't have fletchling lol

I encourage people to dip into the B ranks a bit more, many of my wins in the past year have come from exploiting people underpreparing for them.
 
I went 6-1 in ORAS in the most recent lcwc, so I am posting my opinions here.

:Ponyta: - Ponyta is really good because it spreads burns and is very difficult to beat with fast threats that are not Diglett. It is maybe the best pick at trading with its bulk, speed, and wide movepool but it needs hazard removal to do so (usually Vullaby because it is the best pokemon outside of this role). Both physical attacking sets with Flare Blitz and Flame Charge or Wild Charge and special attacking sets with Fire blast and Hidden Power Grass are dangerous. Ponyta teams often don't need to run fighting types, because they would prefer to slot in more speed and Chinchou to make an effective trap bait game plan. An anti Porygon spread also allows Ponyta teams to have a dominant matchup against Porygon structures because it will not be dependably revenge koed. I consider it top 10-15 in viability.

:archen: - Archen is suffering from its own success, because there are fewer builds that allow it to take the trades that it is best at. It is still really good and versatile, but using offensively leaning structures and also not using Foongus and Eviolite Pawn as the primary backbone for a team go a long way in fighting the substitute 3 attacks set that is the most dangerous one. Ferro + Snub cores are hit or miss depending on the surrounding speed tiers against archen, but in general they provide fewer opportunities and more resistance against Archen.

:Abra: :Gastly: :Porygon: - Abra with focus sash is always useful, but there is plenty of room to use other sets. I believe Gastly might be as good as Abra, thanks to a better offensive movepool and sets such as Life Orb Sucker Punch and Eviolite + Wisp being effective against most teams. Porygon is the best breaker to pair with paralysis spam with Eviolite recover or Agility + Juice reliably taking koes. Choice Scarf and bulky Trace are also usable, but less good.

:onix: - Onix is not flashy, but it gets the job done because it reliably sets rocks and is the best counter against birds. Weak Armor is my preferred set because it is stronger against Diglett, but Berry Juice potentially gives outs against different offensive structures by using endure. Scarf Pawniard fits excellently beside Onix because they overwhelm Diglett who with Eviolite can only trap one of them, and onix becomes more threatening against knocked targets. Onix is also good against paralysis spam because it blocks thunder wave from some users and is easy to pair with offensive threats that beat the other thunder wave users.

:mienfoo: - Mienfoo's best 4th move in my opinion is sleep talk, because it allows its teammates to take advantage of Foongus while preventing Foongus offense from gaining free turns. In general, Mienfoo is forcing specific switches but isn't able to break through them by itself, so freeing teammates should be Mienfoo's primary priority. If Mienfoo cannot do this, I usually slot in Timburr or drop the fighting type slot entirely.

:Gothita: - Gothita does not need Eject Button to position effectively, but the threat of that forces opponents to play slower, increasing the chances that Gothita has to trap its preferred target. Gothita will almost never trap more than one target in a game, but will gain momentum for its team if counter trapped. Gothita therefore wants many potential speed control options alongside it.

:Diglett: Eviolite, Air Balloon, and Life Orb are good. So is Shed Shell, because it completely destroys trap bait teams by invalidating techs such as Sucker Punch Chinchou or using Pawniard to get damage for Air Balloon dig counter trapping. Shed Shell dig will pretty much always run EQ, Beat Up, Substitute, and Sucker Punch or Rock Slide. In my opinion, this set fits best with bulky attackers that do not fear Diglett such as Vullaby, Scarf Porygon, and Eviolite Gastly.
 
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ORAS LC CUP V Usage Statistics:
(this post will be updated later on as the tour progresses)
Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |  144 |  81.36% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Pawniard           |  118 |  66.67% |  53.39% |
| 3    | Foongus            |   73 |  41.24% |  52.05% |
| 4    | Fletchling         |   63 |  35.59% |  46.03% |
| 5    | Abra               |   58 |  32.77% |  58.62% |
| 6    | Archen             |   58 |  32.77% |  50.00% |
| 7    | Diglett            |   48 |  27.12% |  52.08% |
| 8    | Chinchou           |   46 |  25.99% |  43.48% |
| 9    | Vullaby            |   40 |  22.60% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Porygon            |   35 |  19.77% |  71.43% |
| 11   | Gastly             |   32 |  18.08% |  62.50% |
| 12   | Onix               |   28 |  15.82% |  71.43% |
| 13   | Gothita            |   27 |  15.25% |  55.56% |
| 14   | Snubbull           |   26 |  14.69% |  30.77% |
| 15   | Surskit            |   23 |  12.99% |  60.87% |
| 16   | Ferroseed          |   21 |  11.86% |  42.86% |
| 17   | Snivy              |   18 |  10.17% |  33.33% |
| 18   | Timburr            |   18 |  10.17% |  50.00% |
| 19   | Magnemite          |   18 |  10.17% |  38.89% |
| 20   | Spritzee           |   17 |   9.60% |  52.94% |
| 21   | Drilbur            |   15 |   8.47% |  33.33% |
| 22   | Ponyta             |   13 |   7.34% |  30.77% |
| 23   | Staryu             |   13 |   7.34% |  61.54% |
| 24   | Omanyte            |   11 |   6.21% |  45.45% |
| 25   | Shellder           |   10 |   5.65% |  40.00% |
| 26   | Tirtouga           |    5 |   2.82% |  80.00% |
| 27   | Aipom              |    5 |   2.82% |  40.00% |
| 28   | Croagunk           |    5 |   2.82% |  40.00% |
| 29   | Cottonee           |    5 |   2.82% |  80.00% |
| 30   | Pumpkaboo          |    4 |   2.26% |  50.00% |
| 31   | Hippopotas         |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 32   | Munchlax           |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 33   | Corphish           |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 34   | Budew              |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 35   | Larvesta           |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 36   | Clamperl           |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 37   | Dwebble            |    3 |   1.69% |  33.33% |
| 38   | Carvanha           |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 39   | Kabuto             |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 40   | Mantyke            |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 41   | Scraggy            |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 42   | Zigzagoon          |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Magby              |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 44   | Houndour           |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 45   | Krabby             |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 46   | Natu               |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 47   | Sandile            |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 48   | Trapinch           |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 49   | Ekans              |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Venipede           |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 51   | Froakie            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 52   | Poliwag            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 53   | Lileep             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Larvitar           |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 55   | Anorith            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 56   | Frillish           |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 57   | Venonat            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 58   | Honedge            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 59   | Goldeen            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 60   | Elekid             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 61   | Shelmet            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 62   | Axew               |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 63   | Trubbish           |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Wynaut             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 65   | Rufflet            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 66   | Bellsprout         |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 67   | Vulpix             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
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+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |  194 |  75.49% |  50.52% |
| 2    | Pawniard           |  170 |  66.15% |  47.06% |
| 3    | Fletchling         |   94 |  36.58% |  44.68% |
| 4    | Foongus            |   94 |  36.58% |  51.06% |
| 5    | Diglett            |   86 |  33.46% |  47.67% |
| 6    | Abra               |   80 |  31.13% |  52.50% |
| 7    | Archen             |   72 |  28.02% |  48.61% |
| 8    | Chinchou           |   68 |  26.46% |  50.00% |
| 9    | Vullaby            |   57 |  22.18% |  47.37% |
| 10   | Snubbull           |   57 |  22.18% |  57.89% |
| 11   | Porygon            |   56 |  21.79% |  46.43% |
| 12   | Gastly             |   48 |  18.68% |  50.00% |
| 13   | Onix               |   41 |  15.95% |  60.98% |
| 14   | Timburr            |   39 |  15.18% |  53.85% |
| 15   | Gothita            |   37 |  14.40% |  59.46% |
| 16   | Surskit            |   33 |  12.84% |  51.52% |
| 17   | Ferroseed          |   32 |  12.45% |  53.13% |
| 18   | Snivy              |   27 |  10.51% |  70.37% |
| 19   | Omanyte            |   21 |   8.17% |  57.14% |
| 20   | Ponyta             |   21 |   8.17% |  57.14% |
| 21   | Spritzee           |   20 |   7.78% |  35.00% |
| 22   | Magnemite          |   19 |   7.39% |  68.42% |
| 23   | Staryu             |   19 |   7.39% |  36.84% |
| 24   | Shellder           |   17 |   6.61% |  47.06% |
| 25   | Corphish           |   11 |   4.28% |  36.36% |
| 26   | Tirtouga           |    9 |   3.50% |  44.44% |
| 27   | Drilbur            |    8 |   3.11% |  62.50% |
| 28   | Scraggy            |    7 |   2.72% |  57.14% |
| 29   | Zigzagoon          |    7 |   2.72% |  28.57% |
| 30   | Pumpkaboo          |    7 |   2.72% |  14.29% |
| 31   | Carvanha           |    6 |   2.33% |  16.67% |
| 32   | Cottonee           |    6 |   2.33% |  33.33% |
| 33   | Kabuto             |    5 |   1.95% |  40.00% |
| 34   | Vulpix             |    5 |   1.95% |  60.00% |
| 35   | Bunnelby           |    5 |   1.95% |  80.00% |
| 36   | Trapinch           |    4 |   1.56% |  50.00% |
| 37   | Stunky             |    4 |   1.56% |  50.00% |
| 38   | Dwebble            |    4 |   1.56% |  25.00% |
| 39   | Trubbish           |    3 |   1.17% |   0.00% |
| 40   | Frillish           |    3 |   1.17% |  33.33% |
| 41   | Aipom              |    3 |   1.17% |  33.33% |
| 42   | Natu               |    3 |   1.17% |  33.33% |
| 43   | Amaura             |    3 |   1.17% |  66.67% |
| 44   | Bronzor            |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 45   | Clamperl           |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 46   | Cubone             |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 47   | Elekid             |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 48   | Budew              |    2 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| 49   | Rufflet            |    2 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| 50   | Larvesta           |    2 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| 51   | Honedge            |    2 |   0.78% |  50.00% |
| 52   | Magby              |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 53   | Bellsprout         |    2 |   0.78% | 100.00% |
| 54   | Cranidos           |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 55   | Croagunk           |    2 |   0.78% |   0.00% |
| 56   | Meowth             |    2 |   0.78% |  50.00% |
| 57   | Shellos            |    1 |   0.39% |   0.00% |
| 58   | Riolu              |    1 |   0.39% |   0.00% |
| 59   | Munchlax           |    1 |   0.39% |   0.00% |
| 60   | Grimer             |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
| 61   | Ekans              |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
| 62   | Bulbasaur          |    1 |   0.39% |   0.00% |
| 63   | Charmander         |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Hippopotas         |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
| 65   | Pineco             |    1 |   0.39% |   0.00% |
| 66   | Houndour           |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
| 67   | Koffing            |    1 |   0.39% | 100.00% |
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| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |  155 |  76.73% |  48.39% |
| 2    | Pawniard           |  126 |  62.38% |  51.59% |
| 3    | Foongus            |   82 |  40.59% |  48.78% |
| 4    | Archen             |   66 |  32.67% |  59.09% |
| 5    | Abra               |   64 |  31.68% |  48.44% |
| 6    | Fletchling         |   61 |  30.20% |  42.62% |
| 7    | Vullaby            |   58 |  28.71% |  41.38% |
| 8    | Diglett            |   54 |  26.73% |  42.59% |
| 9    | Gothita            |   50 |  24.75% |  58.00% |
| 10   | Chinchou           |   48 |  23.76% |  54.17% |
| 11   | Onix               |   43 |  21.29% |  55.81% |
| 12   | Gastly             |   39 |  19.31% |  53.85% |
| 13   | Snubbull           |   32 |  15.84% |  56.25% |
| 14   | Porygon            |   32 |  15.84% |  56.25% |
| 15   | Surskit            |   30 |  14.85% |  56.67% |
| 16   | Snivy              |   27 |  13.37% |  51.85% |
| 17   | Ferroseed          |   26 |  12.87% |  57.69% |
| 18   | Ponyta             |   25 |  12.38% |  40.00% |
| 19   | Timburr            |   25 |  12.38% |  48.00% |
| 20   | Magnemite          |   24 |  11.88% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Spritzee           |   18 |   8.91% |  66.67% |
| 22   | Staryu             |   13 |   6.44% |  61.54% |
| 23   | Omanyte            |   12 |   5.94% |  41.67% |
| 24   | Drilbur            |    8 |   3.96% |  37.50% |
| 25   | Vulpix             |    8 |   3.96% |  62.50% |
| 26   | Shellder           |    7 |   3.47% |  28.57% |
| 27   | Corphish           |    5 |   2.48% |  60.00% |
| 28   | Aipom              |    5 |   2.48% |  40.00% |
| 29   | Bellsprout         |    5 |   2.48% | 100.00% |
| 30   | Dwebble            |    5 |   2.48% |  40.00% |
| 31   | Carvanha           |    5 |   2.48% |  40.00% |
| 32   | Cottonee           |    5 |   2.48% |   0.00% |
| 33   | Scraggy            |    4 |   1.98% |  25.00% |
| 34   | Tirtouga           |    4 |   1.98% |  25.00% |
| 35   | Bunnelby           |    4 |   1.98% |  50.00% |
| 36   | Trapinch           |    3 |   1.49% |  66.67% |
| 37   | Tyrunt             |    3 |   1.49% |  66.67% |
| 38   | Pumpkaboo          |    3 |   1.49% |  33.33% |
| 39   | Charmander         |    2 |   0.99% | 100.00% |
| 40   | Amaura             |    2 |   0.99% |  50.00% |
| 41   | Pancham            |    2 |   0.99% |  50.00% |
| 42   | Skrelp             |    2 |   0.99% |  50.00% |
| 43   | Meowth             |    2 |   0.99% | 100.00% |
| 44   | Clamperl           |    2 |   0.99% |   0.00% |
| 45   | Cranidos           |    2 |   0.99% | 100.00% |
| 46   | Budew              |    2 |   0.99% | 100.00% |
| 47   | Larvesta           |    2 |   0.99% | 100.00% |
| 48   | Rufflet            |    2 |   0.99% |  50.00% |
| 49   | Stunky             |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Zigzagoon          |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 51   | Hippopotas         |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 52   | Kabuto             |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 53   | Croagunk           |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Honedge            |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 55   | Wailmer            |    1 |   0.50% |   0.00% |
| 56   | Frillish           |    1 |   0.50% | 100.00% |
 
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ORAS LC CUP V Usage Statistics:
(this post will be updated later on as the tour progresses)
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| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Mienfoo            |  144 |  81.36% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Pawniard           |  118 |  66.67% |  53.39% |
| 3    | Foongus            |   73 |  41.24% |  52.05% |
| 4    | Fletchling         |   63 |  35.59% |  46.03% |
| 5    | Abra               |   58 |  32.77% |  58.62% |
| 6    | Archen             |   58 |  32.77% |  50.00% |
| 7    | Diglett            |   48 |  27.12% |  52.08% |
| 8    | Chinchou           |   46 |  25.99% |  43.48% |
| 9    | Vullaby            |   40 |  22.60% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Porygon            |   35 |  19.77% |  71.43% |
| 11   | Gastly             |   32 |  18.08% |  62.50% |
| 12   | Onix               |   28 |  15.82% |  71.43% |
| 13   | Gothita            |   27 |  15.25% |  55.56% |
| 14   | Snubbull           |   26 |  14.69% |  30.77% |
| 15   | Surskit            |   23 |  12.99% |  60.87% |
| 16   | Ferroseed          |   21 |  11.86% |  42.86% |
| 17   | Snivy              |   18 |  10.17% |  33.33% |
| 18   | Timburr            |   18 |  10.17% |  50.00% |
| 19   | Magnemite          |   18 |  10.17% |  38.89% |
| 20   | Spritzee           |   17 |   9.60% |  52.94% |
| 21   | Drilbur            |   15 |   8.47% |  33.33% |
| 22   | Ponyta             |   13 |   7.34% |  30.77% |
| 23   | Staryu             |   13 |   7.34% |  61.54% |
| 24   | Omanyte            |   11 |   6.21% |  45.45% |
| 25   | Shellder           |   10 |   5.65% |  40.00% |
| 26   | Tirtouga           |    5 |   2.82% |  80.00% |
| 27   | Aipom              |    5 |   2.82% |  40.00% |
| 28   | Croagunk           |    5 |   2.82% |  40.00% |
| 29   | Cottonee           |    5 |   2.82% |  80.00% |
| 30   | Pumpkaboo          |    4 |   2.26% |  50.00% |
| 31   | Hippopotas         |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 32   | Munchlax           |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 33   | Corphish           |    4 |   2.26% |  25.00% |
| 34   | Budew              |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 35   | Larvesta           |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 36   | Clamperl           |    3 |   1.69% |  66.67% |
| 37   | Dwebble            |    3 |   1.69% |  33.33% |
| 38   | Carvanha           |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 39   | Kabuto             |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 40   | Mantyke            |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 41   | Scraggy            |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 42   | Zigzagoon          |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 43   | Magby              |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 44   | Houndour           |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 45   | Krabby             |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 46   | Natu               |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 47   | Sandile            |    2 |   1.13% |   0.00% |
| 48   | Trapinch           |    2 |   1.13% |  50.00% |
| 49   | Ekans              |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Venipede           |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 51   | Froakie            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 52   | Poliwag            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 53   | Lileep             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Larvitar           |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 55   | Anorith            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 56   | Frillish           |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 57   | Venonat            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 58   | Honedge            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 59   | Goldeen            |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 60   | Elekid             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 61   | Shelmet            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 62   | Axew               |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 63   | Trubbish           |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Wynaut             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 65   | Rufflet            |    1 |   0.56% | 100.00% |
| 66   | Bellsprout         |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
| 67   | Vulpix             |    1 |   0.56% |   0.00% |
I find very sad the lack of Axew in this tour
 
Hello everyone, this is your boy BRAZILIAN ARMY / MISTER MAGNUS / AHMAD ALFATIH / TRAWKAN, or whatever nickname I’m using when you read this. First, let’s talk a bit about myself (if you don’t want to read this part, you can skip directly to the history section, and if you just want the teams, they’re all at the end, don’t worry). I wanted to make something special for my (uoooww) 12th Smogon anniversary, and the idea came to me late at night after a few drinks (promising myself I wouldn’t drink anymore, considering I’m the last one of my friends still not married LOL). Without further ado, I present to you some stories from Late Nights in La Matanza, Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.



TALES OF LA MATANZA The History of ORAS LC Through Abra Builds



I — The Toy The first team is just my new toy, and I should say this is the first non-historical team in this thread (I’m not even sure if this team will be allowed in my LCCL game vs Tazz — at this point, me, Envy, Howkings, and Kythr are still discussing it). Since the very beginning of my time here, I’ve always heard the same thing: “You can’t play ORAS without trapping, trapping is broken.” My boy Dcae even openly campaigned for banning Gothita, which fortunately the council at the time — led by me, Tazz, and Levi — voted against. The first part of the idea actually comes from an old concept of using Diglett as an offensive initiator, something I basically stole from myself and Envy from back when the Brazilian players were spamming Alolan Diglett as a HO lead with Memento support. The second part of the idea was simple: what if we just removed every single Life Orb Abra check? That’s why there are four trappers on this team. But this wasn’t the first time Abra made me rethink how the tier worked.

II — The Challenge The second team came from a time when Shrug was drafting me basically every season. Unfortunately, though, our team got eliminated from that year’s LCPL playoffs. After that, one of my old students, Mr. Goao (in memoria — I don’t even know how long you’ve been banned, but if there’s a chance you read this, I hope you’re doing well), challenged me. I was like, “OK, my team didn’t do great, but I did. Let me show this kid how adult life works.” Then I realized he was bringing Diglett as the Abra stopper on every single team, and I thought, “Bro, I never noticed, but people don’t actually rely on switching into Abra… so what if we just make Abra untrappable?”

Abra Subs → kills Scarf Pawn. Abra trapped by Dig → enter Porygon. Abra trapped by Goth → enter Pawniard

To me, this was one of those amazing forgotten LCPL moments, and some old heads even remembered this game later when Shed Shell Abra became standard during the SS meta. Around that time, I started experimenting more and more with different ways of using Abra. ________________________________________



III — The Numbers The third team was a big anomaly at the time, but I was actually spamming Scarf Abra quite a lot during what I’d call my prime — PSPL with the Portuguese Room team, the very first LC Swiss, maybe some Battle of the Week games, even old POWC for Team South America. At that point in the meta, there was a very, very, VERY big trend of using Smashers, especially Shellder, which made the traditional Abra set pretty unreliable for a lot of offensive builds.
As a mathematical GENIUS, lord of numbers, Harvard PhD, I realized that 27 (Modest Scarf Abra) was higher than 26, which is what Shellder reaches after a Smash. So the solution was simple — just run Scarf Abra and outspeed everything. For today’s meta, when I rebuilt those structures, I added Magic Room, copying the idea from an old Shing BW LC team. It’s surprisingly fun to use.

But if we’re talking about ORAS LC history, there is one team that you simply cannot skip. ________________________________________

IV — Brazilian Webs Well, you can’t talk about LC in general without at least a full paragraph about this team. This team basically introduced a whole country to the community — Pablo, Goao, Spl4sh, Max Carvalho, Ren-chon, Disenchanted, LJ Darkrai, just to name a few. This particular group of six mons takes at least 90% of the first chapter of Tales of ggggd, where I talked about it as one of the best teams in the history of the tier.
What’s really impressive is how this team has stayed basically unfazed for 12 years, from when I first built it after the Missy ban all the way to today’s tournament scene. You can still find replays of people using it in LC Classics, and even recently LAROXYL brought it again. At one point, we literally banned this team from Brazilian tournaments just for logistical reasons, because otherwise we would have had mirrors all over the bracket. So guys, I present to y’all BRAZILIAN WEBS, the most iconic team in the history of the meta. And even after all those years, this team would still come back when it mattered the most.

V — The Tiebreak This team is also an enormous part of the history of Brazil in this meta. The year was 2023, and a young group of Brazilians challenged the LC world, while their main player was playing for Team Latam (fun fact: their captain, my boy Always Edgy, didn’t even know I existed). In the first round of playoffs, they brought my team and advanced, and that was when I joined the chat. The squad was insane in terms of creativity, with West Sasori winning games with the weirdest sets possible, spamming Slowpoke and even Brazilian Double Weather.

The challengers were about to face West, the main favorites of the tournament, and we had no idea what to bring… until Ampha picked this team from my dump. I tried everything I could to stop it, but he was convinced. Little did I know that this game would push Brazil to a tiebreak, which was completely insane at the time.

That match made the team one of the main stories of the tournament, and from there many people even started considering Brazil one of the favorites for the next LCWC, which they eventually won. So yeah, this team is probably the most iconic LCWC team, and it basically tells the story of Brazil in both World Cups. ________________________________________

Hope you all enjoyed the stories. I still have a few more concepts and builds saved somewhere, just to keep proving that Abra can fit into pretty much any structure (and yes, I will keep arguing it’s S rank — to me the 3rd best mon in the tier after Pawn and Foo). But enough history for now.

Let’s get to the fun part.

THE TEAMS



Team 1 :
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https://pokepast.es/f302ebe8a0bfd56e



Team 2 :
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https://pokepast.es/fef01948760c7fb2

Team 3 :
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https://pokepast.es/6280d08d8404a796



Team 4:
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https://pokepast.es/8ccb3bffa643e708



Team 5:
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https://pokepast.es/aba235fdc9c10487



The Full Abra Dump with a bunch of extras for most playstyles: https://pastebin.com/SxnZBrNg

The Dump:
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