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So, I have been thinking of reusing the old Magma Storm Heatran set to trap Rotom-W. What are the Held Item / EV/ Nature / moves for such a set (except Magma Storm and Solarbeam) ?
Or if the set is too gimmicky, any other recommendations for a Rotom-W lure? (Preferably being able to heavily damage Landorus-T as well if it switches in)
Or if the set is too gimmicky, any other recommendations for a Rotom-W lure? (Preferably being able to heavily damage Landorus-T as well if it switches in)
Power Herb is the item if it is lure with Solar Beam. As far as I know, you can just run a normal heatran spread (248 hp, 192 SpD, 68 spe), as it is a guaranteed 2hko on every possible rotom spread, and hydro pump is a roll to 2hko. The only way for heatran to ohko with solarbeam is to run 252 spa with rocks or 252 spa modest, and unless this heatran is to be full on offensive I don't think that would be best. The third and fourth moves can be any of protect, will-o-wisp, toxic, stealth rock, roar, flash cannon, or ancient power. I'd say they just depend on preference, and what kind of utility/coverage your team needs.
Aside from heatran, you could use natural gift talonflame to lure and kill rotom, but it doesn't do too much to landot.
You could also use hp grass keldeo or m-slowbro to get rotom on the switch, both of which beat lando nicely.
Roost, Healing Wish, Psyshock, Draco Meteor
I assume that set runs Timid Max Speed?
Yes, most of the time with LO and 72 hp / 184 spa / 252 spe
Yes, and you may use 112 HP / 144 SpA / 252 Spe Timid to avoid the OHKO from Landorus-I's Knock Off (and get a LO number)
Thanks. Needed to decide on a nature before SRing my Alpha Sapphire Latias.
For HP Fire Magnezone which spread is better?
31/0/31/30/31/30 = HP Fire 68
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31/2/31/30/31/30 = HP Fire 70
The extra attack IVs contribute to payback and confusion damage but I feel like HP Fire doing as much as possible is more important.
31/0/31/30/31/30 = HP Fire 68
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31/2/31/30/31/30 = HP Fire 70
The extra attack IVs contribute to payback and confusion damage but I feel like HP Fire doing as much as possible is more important.
Hidden Power always has 60 Base Power in gen 6, so I'd say the 31/0/31/30/31/30 one is better.
As much damage on HP fire as can be done is preferred, though in XY Hidden Power only reaches upto 60 BP. Also, the Attack drop doesn't matter nearly as much because those scenarios are fairly rare and the damage is preferred.
Magnezone, Magneton, Lanturn off the top of my head.
Ah, thank you.
So regardless of the actual IV numbers, as long as the spread follows the correct Odd/Even requirements for HP Fire the base power never fluctuates from 60?
Yes Hidden Power now is always set at 60. You only need the correct even/odd iv combinations. Its even in the move description when you look in-game.
The OU viable pokemon that resist Ice + Electric are the Magnezone line, Rotom-H (and the unviable Rotom-Frost); factoring in abilities, you also get Mamoswine and a few niche Water-type pokemon with Lightningrod.
To answer your other question about Manectric checks and counters, Mega Manectric is stopped by specially bulky pokemon that aren't weak to its Electric STAB, so AV Conkeldurr, Latias with Roost, SpDef Heatran and the like have a good matchup against it, and Mega Charizard-X with Roost can use it as setup fodder. Most choice scarf users can reliably check it, and it's also frail, lacks recovery and is vulnerable to hazards, as it regularly Volt Switches out of battle. With an unboosted attack stat of 135, it's not 'that' powerful, so as a last resort, a lot of pokemon can take a hit and strike back.
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Ladder position means nothing, so long as it's actually a good battle. Going up against someone with a Darmanitan and has no idea what they're doing won't persuade anyone, but a solid match means something regardless of rank.
That said, you'll generally find better matches higher up on ladder, so.
Like Kurona mentioned there is Magnemite family and Chinchou family. Thick Fat Mamoswine, Rotom-Heat, Rotom-Frost, Shedinja and Lightning Rod Seaking are the others I can think of.
http://www.pkparaiso.com/xy/sprites_pokemon.php <- Here you can find both the sprites and attack animations.
Edit: I got a ninja! :D
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