Did the Chansey have Natural Cure? If it did, then it would have woken up when it was switched out.
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^and what is the moveset it runs? Tbolt/hp ice/??/?? are the last 2 focus blas and volt switch
Probably coincidence. Tbolt, HP Ice, Focus Blast, Volt Switch for its scarf set. Tbolt, HP Ice, Nasty Plot, Agility for its Double Dance set. You can also run fillers with a support move as well such as Grass Knot + Hp Flying, or Psychic to hit M-Venusaur. Team needs really.
See, this is why you don't test things at 3AM in the morning. Thanks for pointing it out dude. Edited the original OP. It actually does activate Sleep Clause.
I dont know the answer, but that question is better asked here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ask-a-simple-question-get-a-simple-answer-pu-edition.3527254/
They should make a Tier where you can only use all Pokemon of a certain colour group:
Some notable Pokemon in each colour group:
Red: Charizard, Scizor, Latias, Rotom, Bisharp, Talonflame
Blue: Gyarados, Azumarill, Altaria, Heracross, Metagross, Latios, Garchomp, Thundurus
Yellow: Beedrill, Zapdos, Moltres, Shuckle, Raikou, Manectric, Jirachi, Victini, Keldeo
Green: Venusaur, Tyranitar, Sceptile, Breloom, Chesnaught, Hawlucha, Zygarde
Black: Umbreon, Vivillon, Chandelure, Dusknoir, Honchkrow, Weavile, Houndoom, Snorlax
Brown: Pidgeot, Alakazam, Pinsir, Dragonite, Lopunny, Mamoswine, Heatran, Landorus, Mandibuzz
Purple: Cloyster, Gengar, Crobat, Starmie, Ditto, Aerodactyl, Sableye, Gliscor, Hoopa, Gothitelle
Gray: Machamp, Skarmory, Aggron, Magnezone, Rhyperior, Excadrill, Ferrothorn, Terrakion, Klefki
White: Smeargle, Gardevoir, Absol, Togekiss, Gallade, Amoongus, Volcarona, Florges
Pink: Clefable, Slowbro, Chansey, Alomomola, Sylveon, Diancie
How do you guys think it would play out? Which colour, in your oppinion, would be best or worse?
Some notable Pokemon in each colour group:
Red: Charizard, Scizor, Latias, Rotom, Bisharp, Talonflame
Blue: Gyarados, Azumarill, Altaria, Heracross, Metagross, Latios, Garchomp, Thundurus
Yellow: Beedrill, Zapdos, Moltres, Shuckle, Raikou, Manectric, Jirachi, Victini, Keldeo
Green: Venusaur, Tyranitar, Sceptile, Breloom, Chesnaught, Hawlucha, Zygarde
Black: Umbreon, Vivillon, Chandelure, Dusknoir, Honchkrow, Weavile, Houndoom, Snorlax
Brown: Pidgeot, Alakazam, Pinsir, Dragonite, Lopunny, Mamoswine, Heatran, Landorus, Mandibuzz
Purple: Cloyster, Gengar, Crobat, Starmie, Ditto, Aerodactyl, Sableye, Gliscor, Hoopa, Gothitelle
Gray: Machamp, Skarmory, Aggron, Magnezone, Rhyperior, Excadrill, Ferrothorn, Terrakion, Klefki
White: Smeargle, Gardevoir, Absol, Togekiss, Gallade, Amoongus, Volcarona, Florges
Pink: Clefable, Slowbro, Chansey, Alomomola, Sylveon, Diancie
How do you guys think it would play out? Which colour, in your oppinion, would be best or worse?
It's not so much about a steel weakness more than the fact you have the luxury to eliminate defensive steel types. I still think Magnet Pull is the superior option to begin with.
Analytic isnt really the most optimal ability, trapper zone might be predictable, but how are you going to stop it from trapping your mons anyway. There actually is some merit to using analytic, many people, even top tour players, dont bother to check if theyre trapped, meaning you can bluff the ability while getting a power boost, if its a risk you want to take.
Sounds like an other meta. I would talk to unfixable or someone else in the Other Metas subforum about this (only tagging unfix because he frequents OU).
I'm toying with a lead Jumpluff set for a sun team;
Jumpluff @ Heat Rock
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sunny Day
- U-turn
- Sleep Powder
- ???
What could go in the last slot? I was thinking a STAB, maybe Giga Drain. This is for OU, by the way (I get that Jumpluff is suboptimal but I want to use something unorthodox). The idea is to sleep their lead, set up Sunny Day and pivot out to something else.
Jumpluff @ Heat Rock
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sunny Day
- U-turn
- Sleep Powder
- ???
What could go in the last slot? I was thinking a STAB, maybe Giga Drain. This is for OU, by the way (I get that Jumpluff is suboptimal but I want to use something unorthodox). The idea is to sleep their lead, set up Sunny Day and pivot out to something else.
Sub-optimal is putting it lightly lol. Giga Drain, Solarbeam, Memento, Encore, Leech Seed are options.
Yeah, I thought of this idea a while back, and while it would be a lot of fun, some colors would have a huge advantage over others due to their wider variety, also, on mono green pretty much everything is weak to either Fire or Bug :(
Sorry to double post, but are their ANY Pokemon who can RELIABLY even come close to 2-hit KOing mega Sableye who ARE NOT mega evolutions themselves? (And not Clefable, Sylveon, etc I already know these ones.)
What's included in 'etc.'? Just fairy types?
Regardless, there's quite a few decent wallbreakers or special attackers like Keldeo, Kyurem-B or Magnezone who can do it.
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 174-205 (57.2 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 175-208 (57.5 - 68.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 214-253 (70.3 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I'm honestly not sure what's so hard about finding a non-mega that can 2HKO Sableye; there's a ton of viable 'mon that can. I honestly find Sableye's centralization to be really overstated; it gives Stall a name and definition is all. There's a lot of common and viable Megas and Pokémon in general that can get by it and other 'mon like Manaphy and Talonflame who can set up on it with ease to beat it so I don't quite see the problem.
Well on top of the two you mentioned and the ones Kurona mentioned, there's also Entei, Talonflame, Azumarill (assuming no burn) and Togekiss.
252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 148-175 (48.6 - 57.5%) -- 95.3% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 203-239 (66.7 - 78.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Earth Plate Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 144-171 (47.3 - 56.2%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Victini V-create vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 153-180 (50.3 - 59.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Basically what the above said lots of things can easily muscle past.
There are many special attackers that can easily 2HKO Mega Sableye, namely Keldeo, Thundurus, Landorus, specs Raikou, CM and Tail Glow Manaphy(requires to set up, but it can do so easily against Mega Sableye), and Tornadus.
edit: ninjas gonna ninja :/
Guts CB Heracross. Doesn't mind switching-in on Wisp, and can be really difficult to check in general. Really only a healthy Gliscor or Clefable can tank a hit from it.
252 Atk Choice Band Heracross Megahorn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 177-208 (58.2 - 68.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not too sure on what HP Lando runs, so I'll do the maximum damage possible.
Weavile is one, albeit very obvious switchout to LandoT. With very slight damage on it before, a -1 Ice Shard OHKO's after rocks, so you don't have to worry about the scarf on it. Like I say, it's pretty obvious that Weavile will have Ice Shard, and it will likely be scared out, but it's a check atleast!
-1 252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-T: 239-286 (74.9 - 89.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
I'm fairly sure there are plenty more too!
Edit: As we're here, are there any ORAS damage calculators? I'm using this one and it still only goes up to XY!
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