OU ORAS OU Team Bazaar

[mixnite]

sorry to steal the spotlight Sna...

been meaning to share this team for quite a while as part of a mini series where I share notable teams I've used in tour but I procrastinated oops

HEAT FOG SPIKE VENU DOUBLE TRAP
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I'm growing quite fond of SkarmBliss lately especially as I've engaged more with ADV -- I just speedran Pokemon Emerald and have been nuzlocking FireRed and LeafGreen -- thanks to videos from BKC as well as this other guy who goes by Nostalgic Nighthawk on YouTube. however, this team was actually built quite some time ago for my Masters League set vs Bored Pikachu. this was one of those teams that you build in 5 minutes that turns out to be really good. without further ado, here's the team

timeless pairing. I won't go into the details; if you're reading this then you probably already know all about SkarmBliss, or in this case ChanSkarm. instead I'll briefly go over two particular moves that I think deserve discussing: Skarmory's Defog and Chansey's Thunder Wave. I'll start with Chansey since that's the more straightforward/ standard pick. Thunder Wave is the status move of choice here since it enables my two set up sweepers, Venusaur and Gliscor, to have an easier time vs faster teams. Toxic is a good option but it isn't as useful here since Venusaur and Gliscor don't necessarily need chip damage to facilitate their sweeps. Defog on Skarmory, however, is a much more interesting option. this team is rather weak to Spikes despite the presence of Magnezone to remove opposing Skarmory and Ferrothorn. Chansey's and Venusaur's longevity is especially hampered when facing opposing Spike-stack teams which leads to you having to play extremely aggressively to win before all three layers go up. Skarmory lessens this burden.

similarly to Skarmory and Chansey, these two have a joint role to aid Venusaur and Gliscor by trapping and removing key threats in the Steel- and Psychic-types in the tier. Weavile also acts as an enforcer due to its immensly powerful Knock Off removing key items paired well with its complementary STAB in Icicle Crash. Pickpocket is the ability of choice to act as a psuedo-Weavile check by absorbing Knock Off and stealing Choice Band. really not much else to say here. Magnezone's has two distinct roles: deleting Skarmory and Ferrothorn and paralysing Metagross. the second of these is arguably more important as the first since Metagross poses an incredible threat to this team if it isnt slowed down by paralysis. preserve Magnezone until you are certain you can deal with Metagross.

incredibly difficult to get rid of and potent at sweeping. a balance classic. Venusaur's immense rise is partly as a result of the discovery of the Growth set. get the Steel-types out of the picture (hi Magnezone) and there really isn't much that can threaten it out barring Fire-types like Heatran. checks notes... did someone say Heatran? you mean Gliscor food? Gliscor is able to capitalise on quite a number of the threats that force out Venusaur such as the afformentioned Heatran. they have great type synergy being able to cover a wide array of threats while also having the bulk to eat that one super-effective hit (9/10 doctors do not recommend).

while I did build this team in ~5 minutes, it's grown on me and has directed me to building structures I otherwise wouldn't have thought of (more SkarmChans teams coming soon). I hope you guys have as much fun using this team as I have. until next time, God bless you and peace out

bonus content

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen6ou-834209

watchout for Safeguard Volcarona

shoutouts Bored Pikachu and KlefkiHolder

 

[im_m0rtal.]

LUNAR BLESSING


Here to complete the larpcord trifecta, I am here to share one of my absolute favourite teams. This team was made by me, with the invaluable help of stardust, imperialH and tested by me in various tours and friendlies. Mixnite helped me refine it. I hope you all enjoy it as much as I do.


This guy is an absolute unit. He has an insane ability, along with access to taunt and sub which make it an invaluable stall breaker and threat to offense due to dragon dance. Its natural typing is also good. I use taunt here to deny rocks and break stall. I often use it late game if its threats are dead or with cresselia if it has a really good MU.

Such a dishonest pokemon, and such an absolute goat. Sometimes, one quiver dance is all it takes and the match is over. I utilise a life orb quiver dance set to break past mostly everything alongside giga drain to regain health. You can alternate b/w life orb, and lum berry, and giga drain/hpground/bug buzz. However, you need to keep rocks off.


This is one of the best pokemon gamefreak ever made. This guy gets insane utility moves, ranging from screens to glare to taunt to leech seed to sub to knock off, all of which I have tried. I prefer a screens set/lum taunt set.


The Kevin De Bruyne of this team. The absolute goat. The guy who always takes one for the team. Lunar dance is invaluable and helps you turn the tides in a game. Thunder wave is sometimes crucial, and it helps our team NOT lose to m-lopunny. You can alternate b/w scarf and helmet sets.


Mr Consistent. Mr RoleCompression. There are many names you can give this lad but its never enough. Rapid spin and stealth rock support alongside clefable answer makes excadrill invaluable for this team.


The Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card. Prankster thunder wave, hpice, volt switch and focus blast coverage alongside an insane speed tier providing insane anti offense potential. This guy is HIM and really fun to use as well.


s/o to mixnite for getting me into oras and ithi for funny prep lol​

 

[KNBC]

Been months since I’ve wanted to drop something here, and I finally got the time to do it. Big thanks to my brother mixnite for motivating me to post ts! Also this one's dedicated to my good friend and the GOAT, zRyan74



zRyan74 FEMINISM HEAT

I started mons with a Scarf Serperior team back in my hometown, SM OU ladder. When I transitioned to ORAS OU, I couldn’t find a single Scarf Serperior team that I liked. So I decided to build one myself, but i couldn't get any lead so i had to call up my sensei Avendesora for guidance and his spice was excatly what this team needed.

This team revolves around bulky Mega Gallade and scarf Serperior, a set not commonly used in this metagame. Scarf Serperior is a very potent cleaner in the late game thanks to its massive speed, outspeeding basically everything in the metagame. Mega Gallade is a really nice partner to it, as it really likes pokémons like Tornadus-Therian being paralyzed. Seismitoad is the ground type of choice, as it is very good into most electric types, which give both Serperior and Gallade a bit of trouble, especially Zapdos. Clefable is the physical defensive pokemon on the team, coming in on threats like Mega Lopunny and to a lesser extent Mega Medicham. Victini is here for the Volcarona matchup, as well as a secondary answer to Medicham if need be. Last but not least, Zapdos is the hazard removal of choice for the team, as it offers both momentum and a ground immunity to the team.

I haven't done ALOT of testing with the team so any suggestions or stuff like this is appreciated and huge s/o to BluBirD for the victini and the final patching the team needed!

Very interesting. Is there any particular reason for Timid 252 Serperior?

 

[BluBirD]

Oh baby, i guess it's my time to further corrupt this damn post.

Hello oras people i'm BluBirD, some of you might know me for some whack ass teams and spreads, others might know me because...actually yeah it's just because of the shit i make from time to time.

Here's a team i spent a lot of time on which to some might feel like it really shouldn't take a lot of time to make ngl, it started out with different sets and spreads, other megas and some other additions that came but didn't last.



So here's the idea behind this thing, absurd chaos and mons that shouldn't live hits but they do. It's my trademark style by now and it's kinda funny to think about mons like crawdaunt actually taking advantage of their typing defensively and it's even funnier when people are actually surprised that i'm attempting it, anyway.
The core idea is for these 3 overwhelming physical breakers/sweepers(see how it's interchangeable due to their now new found staying power)
to break for each other until one of them just suffice in the end game with the support provided.
Just a small backstory this team was originally a mega diancie/volcarona team which ended up going to the mega hera route due to it's ability to just humiliate hp rock serp which at the time this team was made was the premier set in comparison to hp fire.
Here's a quick rundown of what each mons runs and why:

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Ice Punch
- Superpower

Lefties DD ice/superpower dnite is a clown but it matches up well into the lando teams that are getting more and more common by the day and it absolutely obliterates most sand offenses single handedly, it gives us back up checks to stuff like volcarona/serperior/keldeo as we know, a speed booster and appreciates the wallbreaking ability of heracross + crawdaunt vs clefable cores(also gives me a decent offensive check to zard-y which idt i need to explain why we need it here)

Cresselia (F) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 244 HP / 96 Def / 40 SpA / 108 SpD / 20 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Trick Room
- Lunar Dance
- Thunder Wave

As sharp readers might have noticed, this team is quite slow and lacking of a decent tank to just soft check half the tier for 1-2 turns...enter cresselia.
Decided to go with Bold here which is appreciated for the help vs medi/lop/gallade/sd chomp/ddnite and metagross which is quite important and so on, some spdef to help vs keldeo/zard-y/diancie/np thund and there's speed to creep ada max crawdaunt letting it function as a pokemon for that 1 turn before it gets sent to the shadow realm(speed also comes in handy vs some mega venusaurs who aim for a similar benchmark) standard moveset through and through but instead of moonlight i decided to opt for a far more aggressive option in Trick Room to support the slow speed tiers the team runs in and open up heracross and crawdaunt end games more reliably while also providing excadrill with spin/rocks opportunities if we're in dire need of them.

Heracross-Mega @ Heracronite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 232 HP / 16 Atk / 20 Def / 216 SpD / 24 Spe
Careful Nature
- Close Combat
- Rock Blast
- Pin Missile
- Swords Dance

Huge shoutout to my guy @Amir(o right, he's still banned for some reason) who gave me the original idea for this abomination.
Assault vest mega heracross as mixnite likes to call it, needs no introduction really, i would post a wall of calcs to prove of how useful it really is but i think just this one will suffice here:
252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Psychic vs. 232 HP / 216+ SpD Heracross-Mega: 264-312 (73.5 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock.
(have fun on the calc to see what else it may live as well)
This guy means business, trades 1v1 with half the tier and gives u some unfair advantages in some matchups vs fatter teams but is no slouch vs offense either considering that u have to take it down twice if u consider that cresselia's trick room + lunar dance wombo combo is mainly there for heracross, you can lead it vs like diancie, trade 1v1 and then lunar dance it back to devour the rest of the team.

Excadrill @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 128 HP / 204 Def / 24 SpD / 152 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rapid Spin

Good ol' standard drill but with a shuca berry because it helps us trade with other excadrill and diancie to open up the team more reliably(especially helpful vs sand) it's impish this time around to help out more vs weavile, metagross and outraging kyurem-black cause jesus that guy is annoying, speed is for offensive mega scizor.

Crawdaunt @ Lum Berry
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 140 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 24 SpD / 184 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Crabhammer
- Knock Off
- Aqua Jet

Here comes the controversy, this guy scares all the boomers away with 168 evs invested in its bulk!!!
Jokes aside, i managed to make a decent spread here to help me avoid 2hko's from weavile's ice crash, check bisharp more "reliably" and also give me good chances to play vs volcanion(scarf steam eruption does not 2hko and lum helps me avoid burns)
If u managed to get this guy in vs slowbro in a 1v1, good job you got a kill(or in some cases vs certain teams, 6 kills)
Jet comes in handy vs volcarona and random targets u wanna pick off(diancie/drill come to mind once again).

Thundurus (M) @ Magnet
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 64 HP / 4 Def / 100 SpA / 88 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- U-turn
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Last but certainly not least, here's the big enabler!
This guy here just gives Crawdaunt/Heracross free entry vs virtually everything like hippo, excadrill, gastro, seismitoad, ferrothorn and more, momentum is extremely important for this team and u can't afford to let it go with volt vs grounds here, twave to check half the tier, magnet thunderbolt helps the mu into manaphy, smacks clef for decent damage and basically makes up for the lack of excessive offensive investment here, spread lets u take a mega alakazam psychic after rocks.
This team can be tweaked and changed and formed to anyone's liking, set and spread wise so please go crazy if u feel like this version is not for you!

Yeah this the one, i'm usually reluctant to post "big" posts like this but i felt like forcing myself to do something "productive" for the community to break the monotonous cycle that has been running amok on my life lately.
This might sound silly coming for this kind of team and setting but i have found in mons something i haven't managed to find anywhere else in my life so far, artistic expression.
Some may laugh at this or dismiss it because the team looks bad to their eyes or because they think that it's really not that serious and i'm going over-sentimental here but i really don't give a shit anymore.
Be kind, express yourself and find things in your life that make you happy and complete, even if it's something as unimportant as building pokemon teams. Be constructive and curious and don't let negative people and situations keep you down.
Shoutout to my friends from the larpcord, the grandfather server, the sterk, phantom troupe, Pukka Dat, the MelCord and all my friends scattered around discord and pokemon showdown, i'd be nothing without you and i'm sorry if sometimes i'm ignoring y'all a bit more than i should, i hope that i can fix that sometime soon.
Love you all, have a great night and an ambitious life.

 

[Sna]

Very interesting. Is there any particular reason for Timid 252 Serperior

Modest underspeed the base 100s. Timid 252 outspeeds +1 Scolipede, +2 Mega-Tyranitar, +1 Gengar, +2 Cloyster and such

 

[Bored Pikachu]

Bored Pikachu's teamdump
This team dump includes both teams I've submitted on Smogon and ones I've helped build. Most of them have been revamped to fit the current metagame, and I'll be updating them from time to time. I've updated the nicknames of all my Pokemon and Teams. Thanks to ImperialH for teaching me how to nickname them.

1) Dragalge + Mega Metagross


2) Christmas-inspired team


3) Halloween-inspired team


4) Mythical-inspired team


5) Lucario rain


6) Mega Abomasnow TR


7) Mega Ampharos TR


8) Mega Gardevoir + CB Azumarill


9) Mega Alakazam + Breloom


10) Mega Latios + CB tyranitar


11) Mega Diancie + Dragonite


12) Mega Lopunny + Specs Kyurem


13) Mega Venusaur stall


14) Mega Charizard Y + Scarf Terrakion


15) Mega Tyranitar + Gengar


16) Mega Lopunny + AV Goodra


17) Priority spam


18) Gravity Mega Alakazam


19) Mega Gyarados + Weavile


20) Mega Charizard + SD Garchomp


I'm grateful you took the time to read my post. While the teams might not be perfect, I'm still proud to have built them for my beloved ORAS OU, a tier I truly enjoy. If you have any suggestions or feedback for my teams, feel free to DM me on Discord or Smogon.

 

[Bored Pikachu]

Peace be upon you, ORAS OU players.

I'm here to bring you some good news. I've built a team that I believe has real potential. I've tested it in games against my friend RealNGR, and overall, it's performed well and offers a creative, refreshing take on offense in the current meta.

As we all know, Mega Alakazam's fourth move slot can be anything: Encore, Taunt, Calm Mind, Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Fire, and so on. However, very few people use Future Sight on Mega Alakazam. I believe this is the perfect opportunity to build around Future Sight Mega Alakazam.



The idea is Future Sight Mega Alakazam paired with Scarf Kyurem-Black, originally suggested by Sna. Initially, I thought it was a bad concept because I couldn’t see how Future Sight would benefit Kyurem-Black. However, after some thought, I’ve come to realize that Future Sight on Mega Alakazam is actually quite powerful. Alakazam forces so many switches that it often gets Future Sight off for free. Still, Kyurem-Black isn’t the best Future Sight partner in theory, as a Fighting-type like Keldeo is generally a better option. Keldeo can check Dark-types and also benefits from Alakazam's ability to handle Poison-types.

With this in mind, I decided to add Keldeo to the team, as it pairs really well with Mega Alakazam. Keldeo also appreciates Kyurem-Black’s ability to check Grass-types and Flying-types. Furthermore, Keldeo is helpful because it pressures bulky Water-types, enabling Kyurem-Black to clean up in the late game.

The fourth and fifth members are a tried and true core: Tyranitar and Excadrill. Tyranitar provides Pursuit support, which is useful for trapping Psychic-types or any wall, and also sets up sand to help with revenge killing. Excadrill is added because it offers hazard removal, Stealth Rock, speed control, and provides both Steel- and Ground-type coverage.

The final member is Zapdos, rounding out the team with a solid Flying-type. Zapdos helps check threats like Mega Lopunny, Mega Gyarados, Mega Scizor, and Serperior, while also providing Volt Switch to maintain momentum.

Alternate version :
Taunt Mzam + CB Kyub : https://pokepast.es/ae57089905ee4990
Mzam + Specs Kyub : https://pokepast.es/bdb4f1a95800deee
Mzam + CB Weavile : https://pokepast.es/5285e9cb77497dc9

I'm grateful you took the time to read my post. While the team might not be perfect, I'm still proud to have built them for my beloved ORAS OU, a tier I truly enjoy. If you have any suggestions or feedback for my teams, feel free to DM me on Discord or Smogon.

 

[Ithi]

Peace be upon you, ORAS OU players.

I'm here to bring you some good news. I've built a team that I believe has real potential. I've tested it in games against my friend RealNGR, and overall, it's performed well and offers a creative, refreshing take on offense in the current meta.

As we all know, Mega Alakazam's fourth move slot can be anything: Encore, Taunt, Calm Mind, Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Fire, and so on. However, very few people use Future Sight on Mega Alakazam. I believe this is the perfect opportunity to build around Future Sight Mega Alakazam.



The idea is Future Sight Mega Alakazam paired with Scarf Kyurem-Black, originally suggested by Sna. Initially, I thought it was a bad concept because I couldn’t see how Future Sight would benefit Kyurem-Black. However, after some thought, I’ve come to realize that Future Sight on Mega Alakazam is actually quite powerful. Alakazam forces so many switches that it often gets Future Sight off for free. Still, Kyurem-Black isn’t the best Future Sight partner in theory, as a Fighting-type like Keldeo is generally a better option. Keldeo can check Dark-types and also benefits from Alakazam's ability to handle Poison-types.

With this in mind, I decided to add Keldeo to the team, as it pairs really well with Mega Alakazam. Keldeo also appreciates Kyurem-Black’s ability to check Grass-types and Flying-types. Furthermore, Keldeo is helpful because it pressures bulky Water-types, enabling Kyurem-Black to clean up in the late game.

The fourth and fifth members are a tried and true core: Tyranitar and Excadrill. Tyranitar provides Pursuit support, which is useful for trapping Psychic-types or any wall, and also sets up sand to help with revenge killing. Excadrill is added because it offers hazard removal, Stealth Rock, speed control, and provides both Steel- and Ground-type coverage.

The final member is Zapdos, rounding out the team with a solid Flying-type. Zapdos helps check threats like Mega Lopunny, Mega Gyarados, Mega Scizor, and Serperior, while also providing Volt Switch to maintain momentum.

I'm grateful you took the time to read my post. While the team might not be perfect, I'm still proud to have built them for my beloved ORAS OU, a tier I truly enjoy. If you have any suggestions or feedback for my teams, feel free to DM me on Discord or Smogon.

Make that shiiii chople tar for your own good

 

[Bored Pikachu]

Peace be upon you, ORAS OU players.

Today has been a very slow day at work, so I decided to build a team to pass the time.

As we all know, Serperior is one of the scariest Pokémon to face for offensive teams because of its speed tier, Glare, boosted Leaf Storm, and Hidden Power coverage. However, there’s one mon in the tier that can wall Serperior for days thanks to its ability, Sap Sipper. That mon is Goodra. However, very few people use Goodra. I felt this was the perfect opportunity to build a new Goodra team.



The idea is Goodra + 2 Waters. This combination covers each other’s weaknesses extremely well. I picked Keldeo as the first Water because it’s one of the best defensive Water-types, capable of checking Bisharp and Tyranitar. I’m running the Choice Specs set because I like being able to click extremely powerful moves right off the bat. The second Water is Manaphy, because Manaphy and Keldeo share similar checks, making them a very compelling core, especially when we already have Goodra to wall Serperior.

The Mega slot could be filled by many options, but I really like Mega Metagross here because our team greatly benefits from having a Steel-type. I’m using the Power-Up Punch set because I feel it’s the best Metagross set at the moment.

The fifth Pokémon is Landorus-T, because I need a Flying-type, a Ground-type, a Stealth Rocker, a Mega Charizard X check, and a Mega Lopunny check. Landorus covers all of that perfectly.

Finally, the last teammate is Latias, which provides hazard removal and Healing Wish support.

Alternate version :
1) https://pokepast.es/0f15c0676964ef95 (Belly Drum Azumarill)
2) https://pokepast.es/8f78149c66869637
(Swords Dance Crawdaunt)

 

[Always!]

During a Beat Up discussion in the ORAS Discord, I wondered if there existed Beat Up users other than Weavile. I stumbled upon Ambipom, which uniquely possesses Technician in conjunction with Beat Up. Thus, the Amazing Ambipom was born. CB Ambipom's Beat Up stings even before Heracross mega-evolves. You can lead with it and can potentially trade, chip with Technician-boosted STAB Fake Out, or pivot with U-Turn. Mega-Heracross with BluBirD's SpD spread can trade with strong special attackers sometimes, and provides the largest boost to Beat Up's power. The other 4 Pokemon compose the classic core that most Beat Up structures use. Scarf Excadrill in particular seems to be a pretty underrated Pokemon and significantly pressures Mega-Metagross offenses, which can easily tear through most Beat Up structures due to usually having more speedier Pokemon.

I had a lot of fun laddering with this team, so I thought it would be fun to share, even if the surprise factor winds up being lost. It's got a fair bit of tough matchups, but sometimes that's just how it goes when you decide to use Ambipom. Enjoy!

 

[ambi_]

During a Beat Up discussion in the ORAS Discord, I wondered if there existed Beat Up users other than Weavile. I stumbled upon Ambipom, which uniquely possesses Technician in conjunction with Beat Up. Thus, the Amazing Ambipom was born. CB Ambipom's Beat Up stings even before Heracross mega-evolves. You can lead with it and can potentially trade, chip with Technician-boosted STAB Fake Out, or pivot with U-Turn. Mega-Heracross with BluBirD's SpD spread can trade with strong special attackers sometimes, and provides the largest boost to Beat Up's power. The other 4 Pokemon compose the classic core that most Beat Up structures use. Scarf Excadrill in particular seems to be a pretty underrated Pokemon and significantly pressures Mega-Metagross offenses, which can easily tear through most Beat Up structures due to usually having more speedier Pokemon.

I had a lot of fun laddering with this team, so I thought it would be fun to share, even if the surprise factor winds up being lost. It's got a fair bit of tough matchups, but sometimes that's just how it goes when you decide to use Ambipom. Enjoy!

Me see Ambipom. Me like post.

 

[liquidrelief]

Me see Ambipom. Me like post.

dear god its the pokeaim situation all over again

 

[Sull]

I was originally supposed to make a thread about my best old teams, but gotten too lazy and now I'm also overloaded with new teams I would like to share. So since I have far too much stuff to share which will request me a ton of times to explain and since I'm originally lazy, but also because I lost for the second time my draft, I'm just going to link the teams. if you have any questions about sets, how it works or why that six, feel free to pm me on discord as .sulfire. The recent stuff will be put above and my old team dump in the bottom.

https://pokepast.es/7c6d3fec61f0f98b

https://pokepast.es/13b27f8bc526468a

https://pokepast.es/521d447b2e9d8601

https://pokepast.es/bf59d382b1a0dd31

https://pokepast.es/3c16f146543cb121

https://pokepast.es/14b3213d8d12e7bb

https://pokepast.es/ce37af34546aa8d1

https://pokepast.es/6460a9b6f7eb684f

https://pokepast.es/3ad29a63682a8b89

https://pokepast.es/e55e55ae4e2b44fd (made with chargedram)

More serious stuff:

https://pokepast.es/9f50a53cbc554804

https://pokepast.es/920f6413f658090c

https://pokepast.es/4e56e7be0dbf3a90

https://pokepast.es/3c7edf5258d94545

Revamped old teams:

https://pokepast.es/4c1f56edb17c8574

https://pokepast.es/3b07a9616a1f7600

https://pokepast.es/227642569c6eabab

https://pokepast.es/7a93bc450eb85a43

https://pokepast.es/b2520f135c807825

https://pokepast.es/84e8136fff53b269

https://pokepast.es/017065347f556496

https://pokepast.es/dc1b1a94a58d7b05

https://pokepast.es/e6a92133b56e33fd

https://pokepast.es/19b943c7d1e2dc78

https://pokepast.es/62cf62992fda67dc

https://pokepast.es/6309942f3bdcbd48
A lot of the spreads/sets are from blubird, chargedram or ruffles (or inspired/edited), so a huge thanks to them for sharing these.

I'm retiring from mons to mainly focus the builder part, so if anyone need a builder or help, feel free to ask me.
Also benefiting of this post to forgive myself to certain person that will recognize themselves with which I acted like shit a week ago. Don't feel like pming them, so I'm using the attention of this post

 

[Always!]

ORASPL was fun. Unfortunately, I still have not yet learned what the counterplay to getting crit on the last turn is. But fate is something that we must always be content with. Thanks to Alpha1013, Ithi, and asa for drafting me and giving me a chance to play!

I'm just too busy (read: lazy) to pump out teams each week since there's usually always something wrong with them. But I did want to share the teams that were built for this tour and got some time to shine. They can sometimes be good.

ORASPL V Week 1 - vs Destro16


I can be pretty big-brained sometimes. I was reflecting on ways to guarantee progress with Pokemon like Serperior and Keldeo. These two love Pursuit support, but sometimes it can be difficult to maneuver your way into positions where you can actually permanently remove the main threats. Think of "slippery" Pokemon like Thundurus and Tornadus-T, or something that can potentially blow past your standard Dark-type trapper like Mega-Alakazam. You can sometimes run the risk of either not being able to safely get off a Pursuit, or your Pursuit not KOing and then potentially giving them opportunities to heal or annoy later on. One idea I wanted to try was the combination of Pursuit Mega-Metagross + Eject Button Cresselia; the idea is to smash something like Torn-T with e.g. a Specs Scald and then immediately pivot to Cresselia. Since U-Turn will be stopped by the Eject Button, you can safely go into Mega-Metagross and get the trap off. With SR up, you can guarantee a KO on the Torn-T, allowing your other Pokemon to run wild. The same principle applies vs something like Mega-Alakazam. Cresselia also now takes less from Knock Off, and can still heal something back up to full. Long explanation for a simple trick, but it worked out well during testing. Mental Herb Exca is a fun way to get a fighting chance vs some HO teams. You have to finish up games as fast as possible with this team and are sometimes really dependent on Scald burns, but it's got a fair few matchups where it can put in work.

ORASPL V Week 4 - vs Seasons


I didn't really know what I wanted to bring vs my fellow boomer-buddy Seasons. I realized that I rarely ever bring Sand, so I set out to build something fun. I really liked the idea of RestTalk Keldeo + NP RH Celebi to stuff out certain threats for long enough to get something going with the main Sand superstars. Technically, Pursuit Mega-Tyranitar synergizes much better with Celebi, for the sole reason that you can potentially trap Tornadus-T (and with the correct EV spread, perhaps Mega-Alakazam as well). Otherwise you just get trapped in the U-Turn vortex with few ways to make progress. I experimented with utility sets with SR / U-Turn / Thunder Wave, and those are pretty nice as well, but likely work best with a different set of Pokemon in the other slots. I settled on dual-wincons since I think DD Mega-Tyranitar is super good right now. Fire Punch > EQ is a nice option on this team as well. Not perfect, but the team worked out well in the game!

ORASPL V Week 5 - vs kingofking


I wanted to build something with Specs Kyurem because I was confident I'd see something fat. I was correct. It didn't matter. This team feels rather generic to me and doesn't possess a lot of longevity; it's also pretty weak to common offensive threats like Keldeo, Volcanion, and Weavile. I think that could probably be fixed with some corrected sets and spreads. Despite all this, I think this team is pretty nice into certain fat structures that either focus on type-synergy between Pokemon or rely on 1 or 2 Pokemon like Mega-Alakazam to not be left too passive.

Not the best results this year, but I had a good time regardless. I hope people can have the same fun as I had with these teams!

 

[W0lfdens]

hey i was building and playing this tier a lot this summer, i wanted to post the teams i built but never ended up doing that. these teams were from summer so should be tweaked if theres newer trends or something

i think im a creative builder who made some good sets and teams, not as good of a player but that doesnt matter as much since im just posting teams, if you care about this tier maybe you like my ideas


https://pokepast.es/1c98d9aa08ebc7be

when i started playing this tier again, since latios became bad and latias usually just runs ice beam and draco as its only attacks, i was having a really hard time beating subcm keld. so i built a sand around it that tries to get keld multiple options in the mid game. the tar and exca aren’t unchangeable sets but fit what this team wants pretty well, superpower is usually an impactful move when clicked. spdef zap for serp and just getting momentum with volt. i tried tornt over zap and didn’t really like it. zap is also kinda there for metagross. serp for speed and helping chip zap and other stuff (spreading para is so good for keld too) and this mew is actually really great early game (as long as you don’t load into stall). wanted something to switch into physical guys and just be annoying early game - a lot of mons like clef can do fine into wisp mew but hate being twaved, especially when its subcm keld’s time. also good enough vs a lot of metagross sets. it can be a slowbro i guess but i recommend trying this mew out, it’s fun. it’s really awkward to go up against early game. twave is almost better than wisp so you can toss knock or something there if you want but wisp is great for drill and tar.


https://pokepast.es/7e0f0e13d1c1ce78

this team is so fun. i built this rotom on another team as kind of a troll set that tries to randomly win the game and wall non cm clef. it’s really only in practice walled by grass types which aren’t even that good or random guys that get lucky with charge beam / pump like cm clef or whatever. zone to trap guys for this Rotom and sd venu / chomp and also to make sure u don’t lose to skarm and ferro clicking spikes immediately. this venu set is so annoying if it body slam paras something not expecting it. av bish to pursuit trap lati, be a buffer into clef, click sucker, etc. this team is quite good surprisingly but as currently constructed is actually completely 6-0ed by sd gliscor. so I recommend being fast rotom and/or growth venu instead. i don’t think the spdef invest or sd body slam is necessary enough to run this team as pasted if you think you will fight gliscor. just tweak it


https://pokepast.es/db8b4573c64120ee

probably my fav team here. seen some fat dnites in future gens and wanted to give it a try. this set is old but a lot of people going up against this team will think you’re band as a breaker if you double it in without taking rocks. that will allow you to get super ahead if they switch into a mon that lets the dnite snowball. sd rocks facade gliscor is something everyone that ive shown it thinks sucks, then they message me in 3-7 days and changes their mind. it’s basically a super demon early game while the opponent doesn’t know what it is. you can switch into exca, rocks and then start randomly threatening mons. just such a good to to have early, mid and late game. sd exca does 1v1 you but they will probably not be that set and realize it before its too late, and that’s really the only removal with longevity to worry about a lot of the time with this set. zone kind of a necessity for these goofy wincons that are owned by skarm and scarf is for speed. cm ice clef isn’t the funnest to fight with this team so perhaps you can change the venu set, but knock is good. also u gotta lock the fuck in when you fight medicham but even if a big chunk of a game goes wrong, this dnite set actually bailed me out a shocking amount of times.

even if you think im bad and this team is bad try out the gliscor and dnite sets, the gliscor is more early game and dnite more mid late and they don’t need to be together at all but the surprise and efficiency factor of these sets makes me recommend them to a lot of people.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6ou-2439744533-qrpdit0o51v1eftshl8l61g0jfgvjgrpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6ou-2443094340-u8im6xw3w3ko5hmtsqbrskol88i56jhpw?p2
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6ou-2443105888-xuj4floc1onwwmm81n7rdc0vx7qeqqxpw


https://pokepast.es/9a5ccb783db2d06b

this team actually looks stupid and unviable but plays much better than you’d expect. i like unwallable mons and zardy is one of them but I think traditional / historically zardy structures are actually so ass to play when you’re behind and are poor are reclaiming momentum. this is why i wanted torn and rotom. i also wanted something that tries to win the hazard war against grounds and donphan does it well. rachi is there to not lose to lop and clef type mons and give a second lifespan to these mons that all have bad longevity except torn. weav and zardy are more dynamic than zardy + tar in this meta imo. cane in sun is obviously unusable so that’s why tornt is sp (also to smack tran and tar)


https://pokepast.es/88e1d1e55fb0029c

the least tested of these teams by far, but it’s really fun and engaging to use. i went up against BluBirD on ladder and he had a team that was like no bulk av iron head kyub/cm ice clef/spdef rocks roar tran/ada fake qa lop/colbur twave timid starmie/scarf rocks landot and it basically didn’t lose to HO ever and was good enough vs other archetypes. i really liked using kyub+lop but wished kyub had more power sometimes, the team basically used it as a trade mon vs special attackers with starmie to spin. so i made this team with both of them. the novelty of band kyub and scarf rotom can really fuck people up. chansey is there to up, wall shit and hwish but i often don’t click hwish unless im up against fat. band kyub + hwish against stall is a real demon. colbur bro and physdef exca for weav mostly.

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https://pokepast.es/587b9a491befbc0e

ok i was against gengar on ladder and then i realized nothing in the tier actually switches into specs so you just have to get every turn its in right pretty much. then i thought that a sub set that doesnt reveal black sludge could be really good at bluffing and getting ahead. it is actually and is the best part of this team. you can experiment with non lefties item but spooky plate hex is ridiculous against a statused opponent. this team is a bit mid and not particularly easy to use i just like the gengar and mega bro set. mega bro really underrated too its extremely bulky and very strong when it mega evolves. also ive used spdef zapdos instead of tornt

surprised i didnt post any mega zam teams, unwallable mon that isn’t banned cuz it can miss focus blast. also mega absol is legit either on ho with sd iron tail or as a pursuit magic bounce guy on weird fat

 

[Maktyum]

I just wanted to post the few teams that I had fun building and playing with since they are taking dust in my builder now:

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This team started as an adaptation of an idea from DIYUSI while he was testing Empoleon in SM, drawing inspiration from ORAS structures, and it eventually became one of my favorite teams in the tier which is a funny full circle moment. Empoleon really clicked with me, as I think Defog users are still somewhat underexplored in the tier (though less so recently) and offer certain advantages over Rapid Spin. Empoleon brings a strong mix of offensive and defensive qualities: a solid typing, a useful ability in Torrent that enables significant damage output, and a versatile movepool with plenty of support options, all while avoiding being overly passive against common Stealth Rock setters. I don't like shuca on it, since sitrus allows for more longetivity against the whole tier while you can still eat eq from exca with invests in defense.
The team is simple and rely on making the most out of Multiscale band Dragonite supported by Defog Empoleon and Lunar Dance Cresselia allowing it to come back in the game and fire those powerful outrage or clean with extreme speed. Both of the dragons open up Metagross or Serperior for a sweep while in return they fix some of the team's issues with respectively another priority to face Weavile and the ever broken Glare along the coba berry to flip mus like talonflame.
The second version plays exactly the same, with the main difference being the inclusion of Breloom, which helps the team apply pressure much earlier compared to Serperior, which I sometimes found too slow and relegated to little more than a Glare bot. Breloom also improves the heatran mu a little since Dragonite forgoes Earthquake in favor of an unexpected Iron Head to deal with Unaware Clefable. Here I decided to bring something that I really enjoy in SMOU, future sight cresselia. It goes perfectly well with breloom since you get clean 2HKOs on most answers like Mega Venusaur, Tornadus and Clefable. These Pokemon are forced to go on Steel or Dark-types who don't enjoy taking hits from breloom or Fsight turn after turn. It does make the team a bit worst into keldeo but sometimes it is worth the trade. I also feel like loosing twave is not that dramatic with all the priorities that we have.

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This team is older than the previous one but follows the same concept with scizor as the Defog user that opens hazard weak threats. Scizor works impressively well with Volcarona and Gyarados since they feed into each other, worning out Fire, Steel and Grass-types which in term frees Metagross for a Sweep. Here Garchomp trades the yache berry that helped into Thundurus and Zapdos for the Draco plate to improve the immediate breaking capability of the team (the calcs are pretty good and contrary to life orb you hide your boosting item which leads into calc errors from the opponent). I hesitated a while on the scizor set but decided to remove roost over swords dance as scizor was sometimes too passives and so gave free turns to clefs or laties. The mega stone is mainly activated on Metagross but it is pretty useful on scizor since it makes switching into weavile easier (it can also save you in some situation where you need to clean asap-scizor with sd is more immediate than meta-or you need a boost in bulk or attack to win and you did not mega with meta already (or meta was one shot by a crit on a switch smh)).

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I really enjoy how you can mix weathers in this gen and cress support in sun sand seemed like a fun idea which ended up not being terrible. I pushed the idea to the maximum with growth regular venusaur as a cleaner after the rest removed or weakened its checks. Taunt Knock-Off Thundurus to prevent hazards and remove leftovers, eviolite or assault vest felt good here. Forgoing twave was not a huge problem since I already got it on cress. Eject cress was also a good way to reset weather and bring charizard. I wanted ttar to be band to add a bit more power to the team but opposing thundurus were very annoying, as well as gengar since both of them never miss focus blast lol. So I settled on chople :/. The team obviously has problems, mainly into fat since you need stupid consecutive lines to win or into trade offense since the core is a bit frail and weak, still fun nonetheless.

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This was first a stupid idea for an sm team that used aerodactyl as speed control that could profit from the spedef boost from the sand (s/o CM Reuniclus for the idea). It ended up being a bit too much in smou but the pace seemed much better for oras so I went with it. It is fairly standard in its concept with Hippowdon, Cofagrigus and Ferrothorn placing respectively Stealth Rock, Toxic Spikes and Spikes. All of this paired with spikes immune mons like Clefable and Hydreigon to last in longevity. Even tho Aerodactyl is weak upon entry on Stealth Rock, it is very good for those slow structure to soft check Volcarona mainly and has a heal move (:3). Clefable's set, s/o Proftreez, has to be the most annoying set ever, flipping endgames against offense while hazards are up but also winning vs most cm clef endgame (you can add a bit more speed if you want to be safe). Hydreigon adds a fire resist for mons like heatran but also a way to pressure fat psychics that are annoying and great coverage into steels. It also adds some flaws to the team (mainly keldeo, that is why ferro is chople even though we have a cofa already) but honestly I did not want to go for boring rotom in there.

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So many teams just cheat their way and force their structures to just have obese stats mons without having proper resist profile. I just wanted to troll and prove a point that chansey as the water and fire resist is stupid. But...it ended up backfiring since, even though the team has flaws, scizor chansey cofa checks a huge part of the tier already. I mainly love scizor in end games and how it helps chansey and cofa face weavile, ttar, bisharp ect...I went with a fast spread to cheat my way into magma heatran that have mainly slow spreads (fast lava plumes are not scary since chansey can trade). Pair all of those lipids with another one that can heal them can be a nightmare when you are on a timer because of toxic spikes. Tornadus adds a bit more speed, cancerous regeneration and a nice glue in general. You can see how the team is a huge fish since a lot of things look threatening for it (hazard stack, status ect...), but it is for this reason it is so stupid lol.

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Speaking of Heatran, I think stall breaker Heatran is an immense threat in oras and don't really understand why people don't play it more. I see a lot of lava plumes (which is great if you get the burn) but the trapping and raw power of magma storm is so tempting. I ended up using it on sun with a modest Heatran to blow up those ass lopunny fat which were the rage when I built this. Solar beam improves the gastrodon mu but also can catch keldeo, rotom and the rising seismitoad. The rest is fairly classic with Band ttar sand, balloon exca and some paralysis spreading mons like thundy or slowbro to open heatran even more. Overall the team is pretty threatening and just effective.

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It is the oldest team here. I just wanted to play some balanced sand that give me some neutral mus all around. It is also fairly classic but with some twists for the period it was made in eject button Slowbro and sub sd Excadrill. Pressure Zapdos is Defog here as I wanted Excadrill to free a slot for sub to have an easier time into cofagrigus and venusaur. Scarf Kyurem Black is very good in the setting since it weakens a lot of sand checks and acts as a powerful breaker as well thanks to Teravolt. The regular Kyurem version is a bit more mu dependent, but you can fire very strong dracometeor and ice beam on ferrothorn which is nice. Nothing else to say, I feel like this team has made its time but is still effective enough.

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Another old team that rely on double water and double ground core. It is just an offense farming bot since I can trade most of the time. Just be careful into bisharp because of double intimidate. Stacking both Keldeo and Volcanion is pretty good honestly since they will both weaken their mutual checks and punish hard counters of each others. Explosion on Volcanion is a very nice option to catch a check leaving it enable to check the other water type as the game progress. Manectric is a very nice combo with both water types since it shreds BO with like exca+ferro, ferro+slowbro. Toxic on excadrill to help into regen mons or zapdos. Scarf Stealth Rock Landorus is some bs but honestly I feel like it is very good since I only need 3 slot on landorus anyway and throw off people when I reveal the scarf. The team feels a bit weak at times with only cm Keldeo as set up but I play it a lot when I tilt, it is pretty consistent and stacking burn chances is so cancerous lol. I feel like the spread of Volcanion could be more offensive since I am not that weak to keldeo, serp or opposing volcanion, with more attack ect but honestly I am a bit lazy :) .