Wobbuffet for SSI/GSI of Mega Medicham.
It's the best counter to Mega Medicham I can think of.
It's the best counter to Mega Medicham I can think of.
Probably becuase it loses completely to special/mixed sets a well as Phys Def Sub DD sets (beats Heal Bell DD though), but yeah I agree that it should probably be SSI since it walls what is by far the most popular set atm (I'm guessing the reason it was overlooked was becuase the compendium was made at a time where DD wasn't the dominant set).I don't know if this is my place to post etc etc. But as far as I'm aware Quag is a pretty good check to M-Alt and I don't see it on there? Is that my mistake, or was it forgotten? I'm sure it should at least be mentioned in the SSI I think...
I mean, Clef is SSI for Alt, and Unaware Max Max Bold takes 47-56%252+ Atk Pixilate Mega Altaria Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 169-201 (42.8 - 51%)252+ Atk Pixilate Mega Altaria Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 186-220 (47.2 - 55.8%)
Taking 50-60 percent from a HJK is not being a switch in -.-Firstly, i don't think Sylveon can be noticed as a GSI against Latios, because in most cases, Sylveon will be 2HKOed by Psyshock, consequently, SSI or NSI could be a better choice.
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 242-286 (61.4 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Secondly, why Rotom-Wash isn't an NSI to Lopunny Mega ?
Rotom can take an High Jump Kick, and make Lop useless thanks to Will-o-Wisp !
252 Atk Mega Lopunny High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Rotom-W: 156-184 (51.4 - 60.7%) -- 93.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk burned Mega Lopunny High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Rotom-W: 78-92 (25.7 - 30.3%) -- 1.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
Taking 50-60 percent from a HJK is not being a switch in -.-
Sylveon runs some defense investment if you're talking about cleric set so calc is wrong granted.
26% chance is still pretty low in Latios's favor, and not to mention the cleric set runs protect so it can get the extra leftovers this guaranteeing it to live 2. Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to run max defense since the 36 spdef was for Landorus's Earth Power.I said Rotom could be a NSI, a Revenge Killer ^^'
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 220+ Def Sylveon: 165-196 (41.8 - 49.7%) -- 26.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Imo this is even too much to be a GSI.
FYI he said rotom as an NSI. Doesn't have to switch in.Taking 50-60 percent from a HJK is not being a switch in -.-
Sylveon runs some defense investment if you're talking about cleric set so calc is wrong granted.
Secondly, why Rotom-Wash isn't an NSI to Lopunny Mega ?
Quagsire is 2HKOed by Outrage from Zard X. Not a GSI imo, tho it could stay if u feel it's rare enough.
Chesnaught has GSIs and SSIs limped together.
Hesitant to call mega metagross a GSI to clef when T wave and flamethrower are the two most common moves in the fourth slot as of late. AV regular gross is a GSI tho.
Garchomp is actually a SSI to DNite. It DTails out DD variants and those that haven't yet setup can lose to it, especially if chomp has endure. Talking about bulky chomp btw. Add Quag to GSIs too. Or at the very least, SSI
Why does it matter if iron head has 100% usage on bisharp lol. Bisharp spams knock off. Terrakion is able to switch into that knock off, gain an attack boost, and nuke the switch in as bisharp is forced out. It also gets a free turn against sucker punch and SD. I'd rather switch terrakion into bisharp than talonflame or alomomola. It's obviously not switching into iron head but that's why it would be a situational switch in and not a guaranteed one. Source: lots of personal experience.
Nope. Azumarill can also use a Belly Drum set which is able to OHKO Mega Slowbro after rocks even with max defense on Slowbro:Shouldn't Mega-Bro be listed as a GSI for Azu as its highest damaging move to it is Play Rough which does 32-38% (if Choice Banded) which it can recover easily and itt has a chance to burn it with Scald.
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Infernape was C / C+ when this topic was madeSo no Infernape checks? I don't see it anywhere so at first I thought Pokemon ranked B- weren't included but then I saw stuff like Toxicroak and Mega Houndoom, both B-..
It's already been said that cleric Sylveon runs a physically defensive spread on this very pageI don't agree with Sylveon being a GSI to Weavile.
For example, here's Specs Sylveon switching into LO Icicle Crash:
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 242-286 (61.7 - 72.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Idk if this has been raised before, but I've realized that for pretty much everything beaten by alakazam's focus blast, he isn't listed as a NSI, even though he outspeeds every single one of the pokemon that he checks with focus blast, even excadrill in sand due to trace.
I get that focus blast has to rely on shaky accuracy, but zam revenges virtually every dark type minus those with access to sucker punch (although encore can be used to turn sucker punch users into setup fodder, substitute lets him beat it, and even calm mind enables him to force a 50/50), an most steel and rock types with it as well.
Finally, zam is listed as a GSI or SSI to heatran. Although this is because of trace copying flash fire, the only real way zam does damage to tran once its in is through focus blast, otherwise it looses to toxic; so alakazam is listed at least once where focus blast is needed to categorize it as a switch in.
It's cool if there's a blanket 'no' to NSI's that use inaccrate moves in order to kill, but I think this could at least be discussed. Thanks.
I see that Suicune is a SSI for heatran but manaphy is a GSI? what does suicune have to fear from heatran that manaphy doesnt? they also both have the same way of recovery being rest + leftovers so i think suicune should move to a GSI for heatran.
Feraligatr could be a NSI for Mega Metagross. It can take anything it throws at it. In a 1 on 1 situation it beats it.
Quite actually Feraligatr hasn't been implemented aside from what can c&c it? If you'd like I could compile a list of what it can SI to and beat 1v1