Project OU Next Best Thing: Cycle 87 - Not hosted anymore

[yeshahar]

Pain Split

Choice Specs

 

[innovamania]

scarf
specs

 

[Hatternity]

Choice Scarf by suwa
Assault Vest by Bluecliqse

 

[Jonbot]

by invisiblewater

by turtleye_

 

[Giyu]

specs and never melt

 

[RedDiamond1024]

Calm Mind and Subsplit

 

[InvisibleWater]

SubSplit by JTD783
Pain Split by nameless90

 

[rarre]

Subsplit
Choice specs

 

[Xenocide88]

Choice Scarf by suwa
Pain Split by nameless90

 

[zaydapoketrainer]

Eject button
Specs

 

[Turtleye_]

Scarf & SubSplit

 

[Xenocide88]

Bluecliqse BT89 Are we ready for the next cycle?

 

[blooclipse]

damn thats crazy im actually doing my job for once
anyways

The winner of Cycle 86 (Ninetales-A) is InvisibleWater and their Choice Specs Ninetales-A!

votes

Choice Scarf by suwa : none of them i hope (4)
Pain Split by nameless90 : 3
Choice Specs by InvisibleWater : 6
Never-Melt Ice by Xenocide88 : 1
Calm Mind by Jonbot : 0
Assault Vest by Bluecliqse : all of them!!!!
Eject Button by Turtleye_ : 2
Expert Belt by RedDiamond1024 : 0
Weakness Policy zaydapoketrainer : 0
Substitute 3 Attacks by kek123 : 0
SubSplit by JTD783 : 4

Cycle 87

Cycle 87: Toxapex
yeah do i even need to say anything for this one
i doubt it

Banned Sets:
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Deadline is Saturday, September 10th.​

 

[blooclipse]

can you guess what im reserving?

 

[Giyu]

Toxapex @ Choice Band
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 212 Atk / 40 Def / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Liquidation
- Knock Off
- Toxic

Choice Band Toxapex is quite unorthodox, although I have a few reasons it can be worth using. First of all, it's an insanely good Calm Mind Tapu Fini lure since Taunt is practically irrelevant and all it does is give Toxapex a free turn to use Gunk Shot. Second, considering Toxapex is far from passive with Choice Band it's capable of getting higher rolls than your opponent anticipates and it can turn games around in an instant. Finally, you can play around reads really well; for example if a Tapu Lele switches in and uses Moonblast due to an obvious switch into your Dark-type, Gunk Shot then obliterates it. The EV spread allows Toxapex to OHKO Choice Scarf Tapu Fini and outpace 12 speed Melmetal.

Calculations

212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Tapu Fini: 344-408 (100.2 - 118.9%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Tapu Lele: 486-572 (172.9 - 203.5%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 444-524 (158 - 186.4%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 200 Def Clefable: 392-464 (99.4 - 117.7%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Rillaboom: 422-498 (123.7 - 146%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Volcarona: 390-458 (125.4 - 147.2%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 260-308 (67.3 - 79.7%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 274-324 (97.5 - 115.3%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 276-326 (80.9 - 95.6%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blacephalon: 456-536 (184.6 - 217%) 212+ Atk Choice Band Toxapex Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Slowking: 250-296 (63.4 - 75.1%)

 

[Dead by Daylight]

Well, what do we have here?
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Shuca Berry Toxapex (Ground Lure)

@ Shuca Berry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 224 Def / 36 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Haze
- Recover
- Ice Beam / Sludge Bomb / Toxic Spikes
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The aim of this set is to lure in unsuspecting Ground-types such as Landorus-Therian and Garchomp on, say, a Recover, and hit them with an Ice Beam. Keep in mind that you can switch aggressively due to Regenerator sponging damage. Ice Beam with 36 EVs guarantees a 2HKO on Garchomp and Landorus-T. Alternatively, you can hit Tapu Fini with a Sludge Bomb and do over 30% or use Toxic Spikes to pressure more offensive teams.

Calcs:

36 SpA Toxapex Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 204-240 (53.4 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

36 SpA Toxapex Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 192-228 (53.7 - 63.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

36 SpA Toxapex Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Excadrill: 156-186 (43.2 - 51.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

36 SpA Toxapex Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Fini: 102-120 (29.6 - 34.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Turtleye_]

I assume Eject Button and Shed Shell are alsi banned?

 

[nameless90]

Iron Defense Toxapex

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Bold Nature
- Knock Off
- Recover
- Iron Defense
- Scald


This set aims to set-up an Iron Defense (or more) to stall the opponent with Recover. If the opponent has no special attackers remaining able to 2HKO Toxapex, they have to resort on hoping for crits.
Iron Defense allows Toxapex to gain more staying power in match-up with physical attackers, so you have to switch-out less than the usual.

252 HP EVs are standard, so no explanation here.
160 Def EVs + a Bold nature is enough to stomach 2 Earthquakes while surviving at +2 Def:

• 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. +2 248 HP / 160+ Def Toxapex: 110-132 (36.3 - 43.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

The remaining 96 EVs are useful to pump the other side of the spectrum.
I think that this set has potential even though it drops Haze, in order to use Iron Defence, which I consider better when you expected a switch-in of an opposing Earthquake user (common scenario).

 

[Stone Bold]

You didn't ban Leftovers and if that's intentional then this is my set:
Toxapex @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 20 Def / 192 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald / Toxic
- Infestation / Toxic
- Recover
- Stockpile

If Leftovers is considered under Black Sludge then this is mine:

Binding Band

Toxapex @ Binding Band
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 204 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald / Toxic
- Infestation
- Recover
- Stockpile

Explanation: Iykyk (Stockpile to boost both defenses, Infestation to eat into the opponent's HP as well as trap an opposing Pokemon in if it has a bad match-up. Recover is obvious and Scald or Toxic can be used for more chip as well as desired.)

EVs: Takes 2 Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteors, outspeeds uninvested base 40s (and by extension Gastrodon which is base 39 and all the Base 30 Pokemon that run 44 or 52 to beat Pex).

 

[blooclipse]

You didn't ban Leftovers and if that's intentional then this is my set:
Toxapex @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 20 Def / 192 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald / Toxic
- Infestation / Toxic
- Recover
- Stockpile

If Leftovers is considered under Black Sludge then this is mine:

Binding Band

Toxapex @ Binding Band
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 204 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald / Toxic
- Infestation
- Recover
- Stockpile

Explanation: Iykyk (Stockpile to boost both defenses, Infestation to eat into the opponent's HP as well as trap an opposing Pokemon in if it has a bad match-up. Recover is obvious and Scald or Toxic can be used for more chip as well as desired.)

EVs: Takes 2 Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteors, outspeeds uninvested base 40s (and by extension Gastrodon which is base 39 and all the Base 30 Pokemon that run 44 or 52 to beat Pex).

its not that "black sludge" specifically is banned, pex's regular sets are banned (defensive sludge / helmet with the normal moves)

 

[SDK03]

Reserving Venoshock Pex

Toxapex @ Poison Barb
Ability: Merciless
EVs: 236 HP / 30 Def / 242 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Venoshock
- Block
- Recover
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idk what this even does lmao This set can help Toxapex take down Clefable, one of the most annoying mons for it to deal with by bluffing its usual defensive set or even SpiteBlock sets. The listed EVs give Pex some major HP investment to keep it bulky with only a bit of Def investment due to its already massive defensive stats. 242 SpA allows Pex to get a guaranteed OHKO on Clef with Merciless Venoshock + Poison Barb. Block keeps Clefable trapped, Toxic allows it to boost Venoshock’s power to insane levels combined with Merciless. Recover allows Pex to actually stay alive when facing Calm Mind sets for Clefable. This is all I could think of for a Venoshock Pex, I’m not sure what else you could actually do with it. I thought of it countering Fini too, but it runs Taunt on practically all of its sets (and Trick on the Scarf ones), so it can’t really do that.

Calc

242 SpA Poison Barb Toxapex Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 56+ SpD Clefable on a critical hit: 404-476 (102.5 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[odt]

Toxapex @ Binding Band

Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 19 Spe
- Infestation
- Baneful Bunker
- Recover
- Knock Off

This is great at trapping and killing threats trying to hit you on a haze or recover. Baneful Bunker helps counter u-turners, but teleport is still a massive problem. At least you can knock their item off.
Once you've got them poisoned and bound haze won't even be necessary anymore due to the accumulation of passive damage, you could sack if they're in range to die next turn from poison (or other passive damage).
Oh and going for double BB's is mad fun with this, really riles people up.

 

[yeshahar]

come and get me bitch (Toxapex) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Merciless
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Iron Defense
- Recover
- Venoshock

this set is just really annoying to deal with, literally nothing can ohko it besides Zekrom
i totally didnt get 2 creative sets and merge it together

After sending out pex you can use iron defense to make that defense thiccer


252 Atk Zeraora Plasma Fists vs. +2 248 HP / 0 Def Toxapex: 102-122 (33.6 - 40.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. +2 248 HP / 0 Def Toxapex: 218-257 (71.9 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (yes zekrom is balanced)

252+ SpA Life Orb Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Toxapex: 296-351 (97.6 - 115.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

i mean... regieleki does ohko it but it gets folded by other allies of pex, so....

 

[HydreigonTheChild]

Toxapex @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Scald
- Gunk Shot
- Recover

WTF is this?! well pex now just counters dragapult, blace, NP torn-t, volcanion. Gunk shot makes it less passive and can force clef, koko, fini, zapdos, etc to not want to switch in. Scald and knock are basic moves to annoy opponents. the defense makes it not so physically frail and able to take hits on both sides... and recover is jsut there jsut in case u get knocked

 

[blooclipse]

Toxapex @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Knock Off
- Scald
- Gunk Shot
- Recover

WTF is this?! well pex now just counters dragapult, blace, NP torn-t, volcanion. Gunk shot makes it less passive and can force clef, koko, fini, zapdos, etc to not want to switch in. Scald and knock are basic moves to annoy opponents. the defense makes it not so physically frail and able to take hits on both sides... and recover is jsut there jsut in case u get knocked

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can you guess what im reserving?

i was reserving assault vest if you didnt realize