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Overkill Mafia - Game Over! Supercellular Warriors, Yeti, and TIK win!
- Thread starter Eo Ut Mortus
- Start date
Lemur is the perfect word to describe each and every one of you. Let me walk you guys through the flaws in this lynch, step by step.
1. Where is the proof that kannon is a harmful neutral? I see a log between aska and wick, what in the hell does this prove? Let me try something here:
Where is the proof in the above quote? It has the exact same characteristics with wick's conversation. Should we continue to lynch aska?
2. Why is there a <snip>? If he's a neutral then it doesn't matter if you reveal it; it's obviously something powerful you're wanting to keep from the mafia. The mafia can and likely will kill him off.
The next few deal with the supposed redirection:
3 If his power and/or win condition is based on who he redirects to, he can't do anything without being lynched. Ok he may be wolf now but if we have the ability to lynch him at any point, why would he hit us? It's in his best interest to help us as we can turn him later otherwise; if he does redirect elsewhere we hit him the next day and he's done for. This means the mafia can't use or collaborate with him as he can quickly betray them, and they can't lynch him to tun him. So we're wasting our time on a hunch? Oh, and about redirecting to a mafia...
4. How does he know who's mafia to redirect to? It's D1, and if we knew a mafia we should be getting them as we can hook the (supposed) neutral. If we're stabbing in the dark, a miss doesn't prove anything concerning his alliance, but at the same time we can't prove he didn't do it on purpose.
5. If his power and/or win condition is based on who he redirects to, how can we be sure he's not lying to us afterwards? He can lie and infiltrate us like it's nothing. A wolf with access to all village information is dangerous stuff.
6. I know aska was looking for a 'sucker' (or some synonym) to post the log, not just any willing player. And of course he prays on a relatively new player (sorry wick, I forgot you were formerly darkanine). How does this tie in? Because redirects are rarely ever specificly directed; they are either applied randomly to the voting party, or to a specific lynch spot (usually first or last person to vote). If he has a lynch redirection, he isn't picking the target. I believe aska is aware of this, looking on at point 7.
7. The timing of the post is incredibly convenient. Wick's post is bookmarked 30 minutes after Kannon logged off Smogon. He has no chance to defend himself in case he wanted to (are we to assume he's ok with this?). If something's taken out of context here I'd like to hear his side of the story. Also, how can he redirect if he's not even aware of what's going on? Oh, and see above about him actually picking his redirect.
FUK lemurs. It's been 6 hours or so since the log was posted and the voting began, and there was a great turnout. Now, we have more than 24 hours left in the day, more than enough time to reassess things and find a legitimate target, with time to spare for you guys to work your magic. Lemurs, retract your votes, especially if you don't want to take chances of a random redirect.
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Now that I've covered the ill-thought out behavior of the voters, let me address a few other things.
Five star post, this was funny.
I'm not new to forum mafia and this has been on my mind all game. Mannerisms mean an awful lot. That supposed posting restriction is also ridiculous (I'd like to not associate hailflameblast with Alchemator) and it's a halfassed attempt to try and remove suspicion. Also, posting restrictions are scum tell, as many fakes include them to appear more authentic. If a game does include one it's generally just that, one. Liza's is a lot more authentic than yours.
I'm glad you posted this right after I said not to get majority. Why so hasty to end the day? Time is only enemy to the mafia.
EDIT: Lemming, lemur, same thing >_>
1. Where is the proof that kannon is a harmful neutral? I see a log between aska and wick, what in the hell does this prove? Let me try something here:
IRC said:
Where is the proof in the above quote? It has the exact same characteristics with wick's conversation. Should we continue to lynch aska?
2. Why is there a <snip>? If he's a neutral then it doesn't matter if you reveal it; it's obviously something powerful you're wanting to keep from the mafia. The mafia can and likely will kill him off.
The next few deal with the supposed redirection:
3 If his power and/or win condition is based on who he redirects to, he can't do anything without being lynched. Ok he may be wolf now but if we have the ability to lynch him at any point, why would he hit us? It's in his best interest to help us as we can turn him later otherwise; if he does redirect elsewhere we hit him the next day and he's done for. This means the mafia can't use or collaborate with him as he can quickly betray them, and they can't lynch him to tun him. So we're wasting our time on a hunch? Oh, and about redirecting to a mafia...
4. How does he know who's mafia to redirect to? It's D1, and if we knew a mafia we should be getting them as we can hook the (supposed) neutral. If we're stabbing in the dark, a miss doesn't prove anything concerning his alliance, but at the same time we can't prove he didn't do it on purpose.
5. If his power and/or win condition is based on who he redirects to, how can we be sure he's not lying to us afterwards? He can lie and infiltrate us like it's nothing. A wolf with access to all village information is dangerous stuff.
6. I know aska was looking for a 'sucker' (or some synonym) to post the log, not just any willing player. And of course he prays on a relatively new player (sorry wick, I forgot you were formerly darkanine). How does this tie in? Because redirects are rarely ever specificly directed; they are either applied randomly to the voting party, or to a specific lynch spot (usually first or last person to vote). If he has a lynch redirection, he isn't picking the target. I believe aska is aware of this, looking on at point 7.
7. The timing of the post is incredibly convenient. Wick's post is bookmarked 30 minutes after Kannon logged off Smogon. He has no chance to defend himself in case he wanted to (are we to assume he's ok with this?). If something's taken out of context here I'd like to hear his side of the story. Also, how can he redirect if he's not even aware of what's going on? Oh, and see above about him actually picking his redirect.
FUK lemurs. It's been 6 hours or so since the log was posted and the voting began, and there was a great turnout. Now, we have more than 24 hours left in the day, more than enough time to reassess things and find a legitimate target, with time to spare for you guys to work your magic. Lemurs, retract your votes, especially if you don't want to take chances of a random redirect.
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Now that I've covered the ill-thought out behavior of the voters, let me address a few other things.
Five star post, this was funny.
I'm not new to forum mafia and this has been on my mind all game. Mannerisms mean an awful lot. That supposed posting restriction is also ridiculous (I'd like to not associate hailflameblast with Alchemator) and it's a halfassed attempt to try and remove suspicion. Also, posting restrictions are scum tell, as many fakes include them to appear more authentic. If a game does include one it's generally just that, one. Liza's is a lot more authentic than yours.
I'm glad you posted this right after I said not to get majority. Why so hasty to end the day? Time is only enemy to the mafia.
EDIT: Lemming, lemur, same thing >_>
13 votes for Kannon, 1 more for majority.
EDIT: 11 votes for Kannon.
EDIT: 11 votes for Kannon.
Well Veed, while yes you make a point, we get a mafia either case, If Kannon turns out to be not what aska claims what to do, then again, I too doubt that he'd really be able to kill off a mafia with the redirected lynch, but I also doubt he is really what he claims, though, I want to hear whaqt he has to say first so for that: Removing Vote for now.
We have Fuk lemurs. What's next, Fuck Tigers?
Anyways, Veed does make a good point; though I also agree with LightWolf that Kannon is likely who he claims to be. I'll keep my vote for now until I'm given reason to change.
Anyways, Veed does make a good point; though I also agree with LightWolf that Kannon is likely who he claims to be. I'll keep my vote for now until I'm given reason to change.
OK, just a reminder everybody, you have around 10 hours left.
>_> There were only two posting restrictions in Remoraid Mafia, though Dogfish44 and Reyscarface faked ones. The posting restrictions I gave weren't out of order anyway - Santa Claus had to say HO HO HO <_<
Seriously man, I'm annoyed! xD
No Lynch
My restriction is that I have to include xD in every post.
Also two others >_>
Which is rather gay tbh <_<
Also two others >_>
Which is rather gay tbh <_<
Veedrock brings up an excellent point. A log is not proof. With that I am going to Retract My Vote for the time being, we need to get this shit organised.
I guess I'll lynch Blue_Tornado
Erm, I'd like to know exactly why I am being lynched
Yes, I am a neutral redirector who's win condition/role changes depending on who I get, but how exactly am I supposed to be helpful with it if I don't know anything? you're basically telling me to get lucky with a shot in the dark or you'll have me killed.
It's not very a very practical use of an entire lynch to be honest. I'd feel better going for a No Lynch at the moment, but I guess lead the village however you will aska, it's not like anyone besides a token few even want to think your plan through.
Alternatively, if you decide to condemn me with little to no reason, I'd be fine with having some mafia contact me and I could help them instead, it's all the same to me.
Yes, I am a neutral redirector who's win condition/role changes depending on who I get, but how exactly am I supposed to be helpful with it if I don't know anything? you're basically telling me to get lucky with a shot in the dark or you'll have me killed.
It's not very a very practical use of an entire lynch to be honest. I'd feel better going for a No Lynch at the moment, but I guess lead the village however you will aska, it's not like anyone besides a token few even want to think your plan through.
Alternatively, if you decide to condemn me with little to no reason, I'd be fine with having some mafia contact me and I could help them instead, it's all the same to me.
Well, with Kannon posting, and saying his role is what aska says he is, aska isn't lying. However, I think No Lynch would be the best course of action right now. As Kannon said, we don't have ANY confirmed mafia, and a random redirect is very likely not going to help us in any way. We need to wait until we get more info before lynching Kannon, such as getting a confirmed mafia.
I'm sure you all got the PM from aska. Based off of this, we are going to be remove vote
if you have any questions, contact askaninjask.
if you have any questions, contact askaninjask.
Eh, probably the best option the village has at the moment.
Poke Magicmaster87
Poke Magicmaster87
reyscarface has been subbed out for Exarius.
just to show what blue tornado editted out of his post - well I did, it seems mm87 has a lot of reasons against him. Probably the best option the village has at the moment.
i for one, hasn't seen any evidence for lynching him and don't see any on the thread.... so i guess askaninjask and bt are in close contact! also same with dickdaggler
also why is askaninjask leading us
i for one, hasn't seen any evidence for lynching him and don't see any on the thread.... so i guess askaninjask and bt are in close contact! also same with dickdaggler
also why is askaninjask leading us
That role PM from aska is most likely fake but not for the lack of item. The fact that it doesn't mention why he joined the supercannons. Both the sample role pm and mine mention why the character joined the supercannons (both out of depression which may be the theme that was mentioned in the outset). I find aska very suspicious...
I'll Lynch Blue_Tornado though.
Also, can anyone else confirm the depression thing?
EDIT: some people have voted twice. I don't want Kannon lynched due to your lack of following rules. assassinfred, Game Freak201, LighWolf and the interwebs I'm looking at you.
I'll Lynch Blue_Tornado though.
Also, can anyone else confirm the depression thing?
EDIT: some people have voted twice. I don't want Kannon lynched due to your lack of following rules. assassinfred, Game Freak201, LighWolf and the interwebs I'm looking at you.
if by "close" you mean chatting on irc for like 5 minutes, then sure we're close
well, he was away for a while, but I really don't know. Just send him a PM or something if you can't find him, all I did was go all "hey I don't know what's going on can you tell me" and got "some" picture of what's going on, I'm sure anyone else can do the same.
I will probably be lenient with vote counting (i.e. counting the latest post if you have two votes); however, as mrguy888 has noted, we would prefer that you edit your original post with your original vote if you wish to change your vote.
Vote Count:
Kannon: 5
No Lynch: 4
MagicMaster87: 4
Vote Count:
Kannon: 5
No Lynch: 4
MagicMaster87: 4