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pantheon of pedophiles
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ead and let me know when you calm down
By actively trying to rehabi
litate them or trying to eliminate the circumstances that drive them to crime.
Throwing them in prison is probably the worst, short-sighted, decision we could make.
Throwing them in prison is probably the worst, short-sighted, decision we could make.
billymills, you're joking right? i seriously doubt rehabilitation would work on this guy... the man does not give a fuck. it's not like he's some dumb fatherless teenager who made a stupid mistake, or even someone older who grew up in an impoverished neighborhood and was forced into a life of crime; he's a middle class white guy who is a repeat offender of the sexual molestation of children. some people are beyond repair... they are called ps
ychopaths who will never feel sympathy for other human beings and are willing to do fucked up shit and not give a fuck while doing it. that's not to say that i think most criminals are these sorts of people... but this guy DEFINITELY is one of those kinds of people.
One bullet to the forehead. This person clearly has no intentions of being anything but destructive, he needs to be stopped before he destroys the life of someone useful. I hate the death penalty but I think this is one of the 0.000000001% of cases where it's appropriate. I'd rather see that happen than know that I am paying for this shitbag's health care, shelter and food for the rest of his life.
I just can't believe he did all of this and got put in jail....for sodomy. What an
embarrassment for the justice system.
Also on a completely unrelated note, the logo of that website looks exactly like The Onion's. It tricked me at first.
I just can't believe he did all of this and got put in jail....for sodomy. What an
Also on a completely unrelated note, the logo of that website looks exactly like The Onion's. It tricked me at first.
The fact that this guy was busted for shit like meth possession, burglary, and identity theft while he was one parole should've tipped someone off and made somebody say, "hey, I don't think this guy is going to follow the rules, and I think he might be dangerous."
We have a huge problem here in NM regarding drunk driving. People die a lot, and time after time it is due to somebody who has had 4 or 5 previous drunk driving convictions but was let off easy. Time after time we rally for a few weeks and say there need to be harsher penalties for DWI but nothing ever happens.
It's the same issue; if somebody screws up with dangerous crimes so many times, there needs to be a point where they get locked up for life, and that is exactly what should have happened with this man (although he probably should've been locked up for life based on that infecting kids with AI
Ds thing...).
Unfortunately, we have these stupid ideas that everyone can be rehabilitated, even though it's not true.
We have a huge problem here in NM regarding drunk driving. People die a lot, and time after time it is due to somebody who has had 4 or 5 previous drunk driving convictions but was let off easy. Time after time we rally for a few weeks and say there need to be harsher penalties for DWI but nothing ever happens.
It's the same issue; if somebody screws up with dangerous crimes so many times, there needs to be a point where they get locked up for life, and that is exactly what should have happened with this man (although he probably should've been locked up for life based on that infecting kids with AI
Unfortunately, we have these stupid ideas that everyone can be rehabilitated, even though it's not true.
I never like bring it up (so thanks Jrrrr), but I would say this is probably the most reasonable solution. Ivar when I mean rehabilitation I do not mean rehabilitation after 11 years of being imprisoned. I mean rehabilitation after the first offence o
Under almost no circumstances is imprisonment a reasonable response.
The fact child molestation doesn't cause instantaneous life without parole is a tragedy in and of itself. Child diddlers are in a way worse than murderers because then children have to live with the shame and the memory of abuse for the rest of their entire lives.
I'm not sure what jrrrr's getting at with the "hurting someone useful." Almost by definition every kid this monster touched could have spent time they'll now invariably spend obsessing over it and trying to move on or forget it doing something more productive.
I don't disagree with the remedy though. Capital punishm
ent applies almost exclusively as punishment for murder, but expanding it to cover child molesters wouldn't cause me a moment of pause. There are just some acts so disgustingly repulsive and morally depraved that any competent adult should be given the hammer for engaging in them, and child molestation is one of them.
Speaking of diddlers, here's a local story: http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/...oyle-indicted-by-grand-jury-held-without-bail
I'm not sure what jrrrr's getting at with the "hurting someone useful." Almost by definition every kid this monster touched could have spent time they'll now invariably spend obsessing over it and trying to move on or forget it doing something more productive.
I don't disagree with the remedy though. Capital punishm
Speaking of diddlers, here's a local story: http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/...oyle-indicted-by-grand-jury-held-without-bail
The main failing of the justice system here was not that he was released after serving the majority of his sentence, but that the sentence was so laughably small in the first place. Especially since the reason he got a reduced sentence was because of a plea bargain, so why the hell did he receive no sentence for those crimes at all, especially when we're talking about attempted rape and murder?! Even worse is that the main ex
cuse is "well shucks, we thought he would die by the time he would be able to get out."
Do I think he should have gotten the death penalty? No.
Do I think that he should have gotten about 100 years in his original sentence (Life sentences let you get out after ~15-20 years, sentences with a definite number let you out after you served half, meaning he would serve a minimum of 50 years)? Yes.
Do I think he should have gotten the death penalty? No.
Do I think that he should have gotten about 100 years in his original sentence (Life sentences let you get out after ~15-20 years, sentences with a definite number let you out after you served half, meaning he would serve a minimum of 50 years)? Yes.
Him having the porn isn't a crime, but the article also states that he showed the videos to his victims (who were waaaay under 18), and that's the illegal part.
I'm also guessing "Bed Buddies" is child p
orn or something?
I'm also guessing "Bed Buddies" is child p
in this particular case, this guy is just a complete psych
opath and rehabilitation probably was never an option
rehabilitation is always an option.
why would he have changed after 11 years of prison? consider: he wasted the entire time doing nothing but being miserable. everybody outside has been complaining about how weak his punishment is and how he should have just been killed, because his life is worthless.
how could anyone expect him to chan
ge when that's how he's treated? if you want people to change, show them some fucking compassion. the guy might make something of himself if people weren't acting like he never could.
why would he have changed after 11 years of prison? consider: he wasted the entire time doing nothing but being miserable. everybody outside has been complaining about how weak his punishment is and how he should have just been killed, because his life is worthless.
how could anyone expect him to chan
Normally I'm against the death penalty, but this is one of the few cases in which I think it would be appropriate. People like this need to die before they ruin the lives of more children. I can barely stand knowing that people who would actually do this exist. And hon
estly, I think rehabilitation is the worst idea ever, because guess what? It doesn't always work. Just shoot them. And don't just shoot them with a Glock or something, shoot them with a Barrett M82 because they deserve to be shot at point blank with a gun designed to be fired at long-range targets. Shooting them works 100% of the time, guaranteed. They won't be able to molest any more children because they'll be dead! Seriously, I think in our legal system, people need to actually consider the option of shooting someone because sometimes (especially in this case), people deserve to be shot.
I am too crass.
I'm curious to see if this topic goes beyond "what a terrible man". In terms of the rehabilitation idea, it certainly should have been employed sooner. Then again -- and call me a cynic -- but there's too much bureaucracy in the system for any real change to take place in a case so dark and deep as this.
The death penalty is something I'm vehemently against on principle: the slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy indeed, but I do feel like it removes some kind of boundary on humans if we can kill each other in the name of justice. Maybe I should qualify this with my b
I wouldn't want to see this at all. I am not saying that these people shouldn't be punished.
Accusations of molestation are (unfortunately) used by people with a vendetta against others. It boils down to a he said/she said debate where anything can happen. To think that people can throw out an accusation with relatively small repercussions in our justice system while the accused could face a chance of life without parole is scary. It can ha
ppen...
do you really consider this a solution to any sort of problem...?
where did you hear this stereotype? the only western country that still use
it seems to me the movement to kill the death penalty has been led by secular humanists. what do you feel you need to qualify?
What in the world gives you the idea that "shoot them" is what I consider as a solution to everything? Clearly you shouldn't just shoot a car thief or a heroin addict; these aren't as serious as crimes like these. But, this is a child molester, and th
It won't because this thread is clearly just a medium for Avatar Korra and like
I meant this in a future sense. Not that his past victim(s) aren't important, I meant that punishment to protect other people is a perfectly legitimate reason.
This is where our opinions start to differ on the subject. I don't think that causing someone else shame is worthy of killing the person who did it. Killing the attacker does not remove the shame, so that is not an appropriate punishment. The reason why I think this particular case would earn a death sentence is because it involves someone who has repeatedly committed atrociously violent acts after getting out of prison. Repeatedly is the key word.
What you say is that one instance of child molestation deserves life
Plus, as we've seen, the people go fucking insane when the word pedophile is involved despite the fact that violence against children is at record lows.
The problem of this guy who's hurting people and can't seem to be stopped by conventional means, yes.
Castration wouldn't be helpful in this case considering the guy also tried strangling and stabbing kids, as well as dealing in some serious drug use. He'd be a psycho no matter what his sexual preference.
I'm sorry. How should I reword the title so it promotes more discussion? I made it that way just because I person
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