PBR Little Cup information

The Little Cup is found in Sunny Park Colosseum during "R2" mode of Pokémon Battle Revolution. It is unique in the game for restricting levels to 5 and under, and only allowing baby form Pokémon to enter. There is no auto-level feature for Little Cup; combatants must be trained from scratch. Battles are 3 on 3, or 4 on 4 double, and opponents are always Lv. 5. Sonicboom and Dragon Rage are not allowed, and Species and Item Clause are enforced.

Table of Contents:
I. List of Permissible Pokémon
II. EV Training Babies
III. Getting Attacks (TMs!)
IV. Misc. Notes
V. Top 15+ Lists

I. List of Permissible Pokémon (plus informal tier list)

We'll start off with "the list". All of these Pokémon are allowed, and following their names are their base stats (speed and total at the end). "Tiers" are mainly for amusement and are almost entirely based on bst; any outliers are noted.

Looks like Phione isn't allowed in; pity, the poor thing would have had a reason to exist otherwise.

Magikarp tier (180-224 bst)

Sunkern 30 30 30 30 30 30 180
Azurill 50 20 40 20 40 20 190 (Pure Power isn't getting him out of this, I don't think)
Kricketot 37 25 41 25 41 25 194
Caterpie 45 30 35 20 20 45 195
Weedle 40 35 30 20 20 50 195
Wurmple 45 45 35 20 30 20 195
Ralts 28 25 25 45 35 40 198
Feebas 20 15 20 10 55 80 200
Magikarp 20 10 55 15 20 80 200
Pichu 20 40 15 35 35 60 205
Igglybuff 90 30 15 40 20 15 210
Tyrogue 35 35 35 35 35 35 210
Wooper 55 45 45 25 25 15 210
Sentret 35 46 34 35 45 20 215
Cleffa 50 25 28 45 55 15 218
Happini 100 5 5 15 65 30 220
Lotad 40 30 30 40 50 30 220
Poochyena 35 55 35 30 30 35 220
Seedot 40 40 50 30 30 30 220
Burmy 40 29 45 29 45 36 224
Combee 30 30 42 30 42 70 244 (haha Gust)
Slakoth 60 60 60 35 35 30 280 (not ridiculous enough to make up for Truant)

Bidoof tier (237-299 bst)

Makuhita 72 60 30 20 30 25 237
Whismur 64 51 23 51 23 28 240
Zigzagoon 38 30 41 30 41 60 240
Starly 40 55 30 30 30 60 245
Togepi 35 20 65 40 65 20 245
Zubat 40 45 35 30 40 55 245
Bidoof 59 45 40 35 40 31 250
Hoppip 35 35 40 35 55 50 250
Slugma 40 40 40 70 40 20 250
Spinarak 40 60 40 40 40 30 250
Swinub 50 50 40 30 30 50 250
Pidgey 40 45 40 35 35 56 251
Rattata 30 56 35 25 35 72 253
Skitty 50 45 45 35 35 50 260
Hoothoot 60 30 30 36 56 50 262
Spearow 40 60 30 31 31 70 262
Shinx 45 65 34 40 34 45 263
Diglett 10 55 25 35 45 95 265
Ledyba 40 20 30 40 80 55 265
Nincada 31 45 90 30 30 40 266
Surskit 40 30 32 50 52 65 269
Taillow 40 55 30 30 30 85 270
Wingull 40 30 30 55 30 85 270
NidoranF 46 57 40 40 40 50 273
Cherubi 45 35 45 62 53 35 275
NidoranM 55 47 52 40 40 41 275
Budew 40 30 35 50 70 55 280
Mareep 55 40 40 65 45 35 280
Chingling 45 30 50 65 50 45 285
Paras 35 70 55 45 55 25 285
Riolu 40 70 40 35 40 60 285
Barboach 50 48 43 46 41 60 288
Ekans 35 60 44 40 54 55 288
Bonsly 50 80 95 10 45 10 290
Meowth 40 45 35 40 40 90 290
Pineco 50 65 90 35 35 15 290
Spheal 70 40 50 55 50 25 290
Trapinch 45 100 45 45 45 10 290
Duskull 20 40 90 30 90 25 295
Electrike 40 45 40 65 40 65 295
Horsea 30 40 70 70 25 60 295
Shroomish 60 40 60 40 60 35 295
Shuppet 44 75 35 63 33 45 295
Vulpix 38 41 40 50 65 65 299

Koffing tier (300-365 bst)

Meditite 30 40 55 40 55 60 280 (in this case, Huge Power might matter)
Bagon 45 75 60 40 30 50 300
Baltoy 40 40 55 40 70 55 300
Bellsprout 50 75 35 70 30 40 300
Bronzor 57 24 86 24 86 23 300
Croagunk 48 61 40 61 40 50 300
Dratini 41 64 45 50 50 50 300
Geodude 40 80 100 30 30 20 300
Gible 58 70 45 40 45 42 300
Larvitar 50 64 50 45 50 41 300
Poliwag 40 50 40 40 40 90 300
Remoraid 35 65 35 65 35 65 300
Sandshrew 50 75 85 20 30 40 300
Snorunt 50 50 50 50 50 50 300
Snubbull 60 80 50 40 40 30 300
Gulpin 70 43 53 43 53 40 302
Carvanha 45 90 20 65 20 65 305
Machop 70 80 50 35 35 35 305
Mankey 40 80 35 35 45 70 305
Numel 60 60 40 65 45 35 305
Shellder 30 65 100 45 25 40 305
Smoochum 45 30 15 85 65 65 305
Venonat 60 55 50 40 55 45 305
Corphish 43 80 65 50 35 35 308
Charmander 39 52 43 60 50 65 309
Chimchar 44 58 44 58 44 61 309
Cyndaquil 39 52 43 60 50 65 309
Abra 25 20 15 105 55 90 310
Doduo 35 85 45 35 35 75 310
Gastly 30 35 30 100 35 80 310
Glameow 49 55 42 42 37 85 310
MimeJr 20 25 45 70 90 60 310
Mudkip 50 70 50 50 50 40 310
Swablu 45 40 60 40 75 50 310
Torchic 45 60 40 70 50 45 310
Treecko 40 45 35 65 55 70 310
Piplup 53 51 53 61 56 40 314
Squirtle 44 48 65 50 64 43 314
Totodile 50 65 64 44 48 43 314
Slowpoke 90 65 65 40 40 15 315
Bulbasaur 45 49 49 65 65 45 318
Chikorita 45 49 65 49 65 45 318
Turtwig 55 68 64 45 55 31 318
Goldeen 45 67 60 35 50 63 320
Natu 40 50 45 70 45 70 320
Oddish 45 50 55 75 65 30 320
Psyduck 50 52 48 65 50 55 320
Eevee 55 55 50 45 65 55 325
Exeggcute 60 40 80 60 45 40 325
Grimer 80 80 50 40 50 25 325
Krabby 30 105 90 25 25 50 325
Magnemite 25 35 70 95 55 45 325
Seel 65 45 55 45 70 45 325
Shellos 76 48 48 57 62 34 325
Drowzee 60 48 45 43 90 42 328
Stunky 63 63 47 41 41 74 329
Aron 50 70 100 40 40 30 330
Buizel 55 65 35 60 30 85 330
Chinchou 75 38 38 56 56 67 330
Finneon 49 49 56 49 61 66 330
Hippopotas 68 72 78 38 42 32 330
Houndour 45 60 30 80 50 65 330
Phanpy 90 60 60 40 40 40 330
Skorupi 40 50 90 30 55 65 330
Spoink 60 25 35 70 80 60 330
Teddiursa 60 80 50 50 50 40 330
Voltorb 40 30 50 55 55 100 330
Snover 60 62 50 62 60 40 334
Cacnea 50 85 40 85 40 35 335
Tentacool 40 40 35 50 100 70 335
Koffing 40 65 95 60 45 35 340
Staryu 30 45 55 70 55 85 340
Mantyke 45 20 50 60 120 50 345
Rhyhorn 80 85 95 30 30 25 345
Drifloon 90 50 34 60 44 70 348
Buneary 55 66 44 44 56 85 350
Cranidos 67 125 40 30 30 58 350
Shieldon 30 42 118 42 88 30 350
Anorith 45 95 50 40 50 75 355
Kabuto 30 80 90 55 45 55 355
Lileep 66 41 77 61 87 23 355
Omanyte 35 40 100 90 55 35 355
Aipom 55 70 55 40 55 85 360
Elekid 45 63 37 65 55 95 360
Magby 45 75 37 70 55 83 365

Porygon tier (375-435 bst)

Cubone 50 50 95 40 50 35 320 (oh, Cubone)
Clamperl 35 64 85 74 55 32 345 (I think the option of S. Atk or S. Def doubling deserves a mention)
Nosepass 30 45 135 45 90 30 375
Lickitung 90 55 75 60 75 30 385
Onix 35 45 160 30 45 70 385
Munchlax 135 85 40 40 85 5 390
Yanma 65 65 45 75 45 95 390
Porygon 65 60 70 85 75 40 395
Wailmer 130 70 35 70 35 60 400
Murkrow 60 85 42 85 42 91 405
Ponyta 50 85 55 65 65 90 410
Gligar 65 75 105 35 65 85 430
Sneasel 55 95 55 35 75 115 430
Misdreavus 60 60 60 85 85 85 435
Tangela 65 55 115 100 40 60 435

lol banned- er, Scyther tier (480-500 bst)

Wynaut 95 23 48 23 48 23 260 (I'd like to see an argument against this, if we can't let him in Lv. 100 Ubers)
Scyther 70 110 80 55 80 105 500


Now that that's out of the way...

II. EV Training Babies

Yes, it can be done... somewhat.

In all their infinite wisdom, GameFreak has provided us with Lv. 1 babies to compete in a Lv. 5 cup. That means EV training is possible, and even probable in some cases. However, minimizing your EXP gain is key to getting anywhere with this, so you will be dealing with six opponents only.

Health: Lv. 2 Bidoof (16 exp)
Attack: Lv. 3 Shinx (25 exp)
Defence: Lv. 3 Kricketot (23 exp)
S. Atk: Lv. 4 Budew (38 exp)
S. Def: Lv. 12 Cleffa (63 exp) (hard to find; the morning is the best time to train S. Def)
Speed: Lv. 2 Starly (16 exp)

Your rate of EXP growth will heavily influence how many EVs you can aquire. The following are the maximum totals of exp you can get without hitting Lv. 6, and the "to next level" totals for Lv. 1 Pokémon of each type.

(credit: http://www.geocities.com/teamrocketelite/Exp.txt)

600 000: 405 (15)
800 000: 171 (6)
1 000 000: 215 (8)
1 050 000: 178 (9)
1 250 000: 269 (10)
1 640 000: 111 (4)

Luckily, you don't need 252 EV to max out a stat at Lv. 5. However, there are no set cutoffs; it changes depending on the base stat AND your IVs. Meaning there can be no set EV 'spread', it must be determined manually for each Pokémon's specific IV rolls. As an example, a six-way-max Mismagius needs 196 EVs to max out HP/AT/DF (base 60) but needs 236 to max out SA/SD/SP (base 105). Yet, if one of those 105's happened to roll a 20 instead of a 31, it would only need 200. You'll be wanting a calculator for this.

This program (thanks to OmegaDonut for the numbers) will take your base stats and IVs, and give you the required number of EVs to max out your stat. If you can't max your stat, it will instead give you the amount you need to hit the next possible stat. (If you don't want to train a stat that far, you can subtract 80 from it, as that seems to be the maximum number of EV it takes to make a difference in a stat.)

Thanks to EvilMario for suggesting the most efficient way to do this- switching. By employing switching, you can use your Power item AND only require one Exp. Share to minimize exp. If you have more than one Power item, you can train multiple babies this way (assuming they can survive the switchin, which should be possible).

Lead: Baby (w/ Power Item) / Sleeper
"Sweeper" (w/ Exp. Share) (any goober over Lv. 15 will do for this)
Blinger (w/ Amulet Coin) (doing this allows you to abuse Fisherman Andrew and his pathetic team of Magikarps; if you want to maximize your lunch money dollar, might as well toss Amulet Coin in here)
Filler/Baby
Filler/Baby
Filler/Baby

The fillers aren't important, as long as they aren't eggs and can survive a switchin.

The sweeper will take half the exp automatically, just for having the Exp. Share, and will also soak up an additional sixth. By switching six times and then finishing off the opponent, your gained experience is first cut in half (rounded down!) and then cut into sixths (rounded down!). Cleffa start giving out 5 exp instead of 63, for instance. Budew give 3, Shinx 2, and everything else 1. Team Magikarp, the fastest way to gain Speed in the game? 3 exp each, 18 in total.

I hear conflicting reports on this, but if equipping the Power item for, say, S. Def works if you faint something that normally gives Speed EVs, you can use this technique to gain the harder stat while gaining the easier stat. Fainting a Starly with the S. Def power item on gives you 2 Speed EVs and 8 S. Def EVs, with PokéRus. Once you have all the S. Def you need, unequip it (or equip the Speed Power item instead) and finish up.

Simply giving your baby ten of each vitamin is always an option. :p

III. Getting Attacks

Learning attacks is relatively straightforward. You will, of course, need to breed for babies' level moves if you want them at Lv. 5, which means genderless Pokémon like Porygon are pretty much restricted to TMs. The only male-only species that can compete are Nidoran M, who can learn level moves if Nidorina also learns them, and Tyrogue, who has no level moves to miss in the first place. Female-only species need a partner that has the level move they want, as well as any breed moves they might also need.

Keep in mind that when breeding TMs, some baby forms can't learn what their evolved forms can. I've done up a little table for each individual Pokémon that should be helpful.

http://database.stumpnet.net/fgentm.html

But what about Emerald, you may cry? What about my move tutors from FR/LG and XD? Babies from the third generation start at Lv. 5, so there isn't nearly as much time for EV training as babies born at Lv. 1. However... by fully abusing the switching method outlined above, EV training a Lv. 5 third generation baby IS possible. The shortest gap between Lv. 5 and Lv. 6 is 43 points, of the 1050 class of experience. By switching against Lv. 2 Starlys, you can whittle Exp gained down to 2 points each on your babies, and it takes 16 at maximum to max Health or Speed (with vitamins, of course). S. Atk and S. Def might be tricky to pull off, but that's where you have to decide whether the stats or the moves are more important. Skillful use of Power items should help you through this, and can even allow maxing of two stats in some circumstances. Keep in mind, of course, that third generation babies cannot possibly have fourth generation abilities, as they won't be evolving.

IV. Misc. Notes

Sitrus Berry won't ever heal more than 8 HP. Oran Berry is probably top tier for items at a set 10 HP, which is probably why Item Clause is on. Leftovers is useless. :) Munchlax and Wailmer, with maxed out HP, can get 2 HP a turn from it.

The Little Cup allows for some Pokémon to be played slightly differently. Larvitar has Guts, for instance, and so there is now a Rock/Ground guy who can whore out Burn Orb. Duskull floats, Sneasel has abilites that aren't dumb and Trapinch acts like Dugtrio with Arena Trap (and thrashes Diglett in all respects other than Speed).

V. Top 15+ Lists

For your information, the top 15 (plus ties for 15th) are listed below.

Health
Munchlax
Wailmer
Happini
Wynaut
Slowpoke
Phanpy
Lickitung
Igglybuff
Drifloon
Rhyhorn
Grimer
Shellos
Chinchou
Makuhita

Attack
Cranidos
Scyther
Krabby
Trapinch
Sneasel
Anorith
Carvanha
Rhyhorn
Ponyta
Murkrow
Munchlax
Doduo
Cacnea
Teddiursa
Snubbull
Mankey
Machop
Kabuto
Grimer
Geodude
Corphish
Bonsly

Defence
Onix
Nosepass
Shieldon
Tangela
Gligar
Shellder
Omanyte
Geodude
Aron
Rhyhorn
Koffing
Cubone
Bonsly
Skorupi
Pineco
Nincada
Krabby
Kabuto
Duskull

S. Atk
Abra
Tangela
Gastly
Magnemite
Omanyte
Smoochum
Porygon
Murkrow
Misdreavus
Cacnea
Houndour
Yanma
Oddish
Clamperl

S. Def
Mantyke
Tentacool
Nosepass
MimeJr
Duskull
Drowzee
Shieldon
Lileep
Bronzor
Munchlax
Misdreavus
Spoink
Scyther
Ledyba

Speed
Sneasel
Scyther
Voltorb
Yanma
Elekid
Diglett
Murkrow
Ponyta
Poliwag
Meowth
Abra
Wingull
Taillow
Staryu
Misdreavus
Gligar
Glameow
Buneary
Buizel
Aipom

Questions and comments welcome.
~Uiru
 

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For the EV-training bit: I would like to point out that if you have a party holding six Exp. Shares, all the Exp. Share-holding Pokemon will have their experience divided into tiny portions, but all will receive the same EVs (not factoring in Pokerus). It just may be feasible (although not strictly necessary) to get a baby to 252 EVs this way.
 
I completely forgot about Exp. Share. Thanks. :)

I'm on my way to bed, so I'll edit that in in the morning.
~Uiru
 
Porygon, scyther, sneasel, etc. are banned from little cup because they were fully evolved in previous generations, giving them unfairly high stats. Think of it as the equivalant of using dusclops and rhydon in a NFE team.
 
Lol, Makuhita w/belly drum, bullet punch and substitute holding burn orb and guts. T1 sub, T2 belly drum, T3 facade or bullet punch. Pwn.
Edit: Can you use lickitung? Probably not.
 

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Lol, Makuhita w/belly drum, bullet punch and substitute holding burn orb and guts. T1 sub, T2 belly drum, T3 facade or bullet punch. Pwn.
Edit: Can you use lickitung? Probably not.
...which gets walled by Magnemite or Chinchou. ;]
 
Porygon, scyther, sneasel, etc. are banned from little cup because they were fully evolved in previous generations, giving them unfairly high stats. Think of it as the equivalant of using dusclops and rhydon in a NFE team.
It let me bring Scyther in when I tried it.
~Uiru
 

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Porygon, scyther, sneasel, etc. are banned from little cup because they were fully evolved in previous generations, giving them unfairly high stats. Think of it as the equivalant of using dusclops and rhydon in a NFE team.
Lol, Makuhita w/belly drum, bullet punch and substitute holding burn orb and guts. T1 sub, T2 belly drum, T3 facade or bullet punch. Pwn.
Edit: Can you use lickitung? Probably not.
my team has a lickitung and a sneasil and it allowed both.
 
For the EV-training bit: I would like to point out that if you have a party holding six Exp. Shares, all the Exp. Share-holding Pokemon will have their experience divided into tiny portions, but all will receive the same EVs (not factoring in Pokerus). It just may be feasible (although not strictly necessary) to get a baby to 252 EVs this way.
Altough it's possible to EV train, remember that on lvl 5, the difference will be really, really small, and, in some cases, it'll have no difference between 220 or 252 EVs.
 
Scyther/Sneasel et al would be banned in competative (i.e Netbattle or competitor) Little cup play, but looks like they are free to abuse in PBR :-)
 
Porygon, scyther, sneasel, etc. are banned from little cup because they were fully evolved in previous generations, giving them unfairly high stats. Think of it as the equivalant of using dusclops and rhydon in a NFE team.
I think Porygon is allowed in ADV Little Cup, at least it was allowed in the last Little Cup tournament here a while back. Same with Onix.
 

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Altough it's possible to EV train, remember that on lvl 5, the difference will be really, really small, and, in some cases, it'll have no difference between 220 or 252 EVs.
Think again, and run some calculations while you're at it.

For any base stat whose last digit is a 5, you will need at least 236 EVs to max out that stat - that's assuming you have a 31 IV in that stat. If the base stat ends in 0, then you need 200 EVs.

So here's a list of EVs needed to max out base stats that end in certain numbers:

0 - 196 EVs
1 - 188 EVs
2 - 180 EVs
3 - 252 EVs
4 - 244 EVs
5 - 236 EVs
6 - 228 EVs
7 - 220 EVs
8 - 212 EVs
9 - 204 EVs

This is assuming you have a 31 IV in that stat. If you don't, add 4 EVs * the difference between 31 and your IV. For example, if I had a 27 IV in a 50 base stat, I would have to give it 196 + 4(31-27) = 212 EVs.

Since base stats that end in 5 are common and are found on some of the more important Pokemon (e.g. Scyther and Sneasel's Attack and Speed stats), the difference between 220 and 252 EVs is a lot more important than what you might think.
 
Think again, and run some calculations while you're at it.

For any base stat whose last digit is a 5, you will need at least 236 EVs to max out that stat - that's assuming you have a 31 IV in that stat.If the base stat ends in 0, then you need 200 EVs.

So here's a list of EVs needed to max out base stats that end in certain numbers:

0 - 196 EVs
1 - 188 EVs
2 - 180 EVs
3 - 252 EVs
4 - 244 EVs
5 - 236 EVs
6 - 228 EVs
7 - 220 EVs
8 - 212 EVs
9 - 204 EVs

This is assuming you have a 31 IV in that stat. If you don't, add 4 EVs * the difference between 31 and your IV. For example, if I had a 27 IV in a 50 base stat, I would have to give it 196 + 4(31-27) = 212 EVs.

Since base stats that end in 5 are common and are found on some of the more important Pokemon (e.g. Scyther and Sneasel's Attack and Speed stats), the difference between 220 and 252 EVs is a lot more important than what you might think.
Pretty interesting, I'll run some calculations later to see how it works in game.
 
Noticed a little error:

Anorith 45 95 50 40 50 75 355
Kabutops 30 80 90 55 45 55 355
Lileep 66 41 77 61 87 23 355


Should be just Kabuto.

</nitpick>
 
Whoops, missed another one, lol. In the Attack Tier List.

Machop
Kabutops
Grimer


Sorry about that, lol. And no problem. :D
 
I've always liked the UU metagame because it allowed me to use my favorites, and this thing is cool simply because now my lv. 5 Modest Omanyte can sweep teams! Mwahahahaha! And Meowth is useable!
 
Man, I can't wait to play in this in PBR. Lessee... Trapinch and Misdreavus will be givens... a Tangela would be fun... I've got a Brave Mudkip nicknamed SO I HERD (>_>), maybe he'd be useful... Oh, and Magnemite/Omanyte are good, too.
 
I fully EV trained a Spoink, Sneasel, and a Lavitar for Sunny Park. Using power items, Trainer Andrew (six Magikarps), a couple exp share, and lots of switching it's very easy to do. Just takes quite a bit of time.
 

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