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PC or Mac for me?

I actually really like the keyboard on my Macbook Pro! Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

^This. If we're talking about intuitive use, comfort, and power of the physical interface, than I have to say that the Macbook Pro and it's family is absolutely superior than any non-customized PC.

After getting used the mouse/keyboard on the Macbook pro, I don't think I can ever feel satisfied with your standard PC interface again.

I actually like the depth of the keys, and PC keyboards often feel too shallow or too sticky to me. Though, if we're talking about PC, there are like a billion different makers and they all do things differently... Most notably, I hate how all the commands, mostly dependent on the Control button on PC, use a button that's so damn far away from the center of the keyboard. Anyone used to using computers uses the "command" button (or Control on PC) constantly, and having to use a weak finger like your pinkie or ring finger to hold it down is just painful. Command button on both sides of the Space Bar? Mac, ur doing it right. :)

Now if we're talking about mouse...

Ughh, I don't think I'd ever go back your typical point and click mouse again, not after getting used to the magic of Mac's touchpad.

I've always hated how the slightest touch on a pc pad = clicking. A lot of touchpads have buttons to push next to the touchpad because it's recognized that a lot of people hate the simple touch = click-- you want to push a button to get the response you want with exactness.

I had a Toshiba PC before buying the newest gen of Macbook Pro. I used it for years and always hated the touchpad. I think this is highlighted by the number of PC users that carry an external mouse with their Laptop! Come on, let's face it-- that's just annoying extra equipment to have. Plus, a touchpad doesn't need a surface to use-- it's just more convenient, so I can use it while sitting at an airport, waiting at a train station, on a bench in the part, etc. etc. Too bad PC touchpads suck...

It's just infuriating how it clicks when I'm just barely touching, or sometimes doesn't click if I didn't do it just right~~! *tears hair out*

The Mac's touchpad's click is intuitive because it's an actual button. It sinks ever so slightly, so the pushing motion is extremely exact~~ <3

This is not even getting into the various motions of the touchpad that give quick access to a huge breath of features. The quick sliding up and down of two fingers is so comfortable and natural that just the thought of a mouse wheel makes my stomach squirm.

God, I can just talk about viewing pictures in preview (especially reading manga or doujinshi)... it's magical...

2 fingers up-down goes up and down on one image. 3 fingers up-down goes back or forward a page. pinch fingers = zoom in, spread fingers = zoom out. The command button, conveniently located next to my spacebar, lets me easily use command-0 to go to original size, or command-2 to go to double size. It's so easy and immediate.

Using 3 fingers to navigate back-forward in a browser, or using 4 fingers to have instant access to your desktop by sliding up, or instant access to every single open window lined up for you to browse to by sliding down.

God, using all the fingers of my hand to get a huge variety of instant responses with an exactness that is impossible by any built in PC laptop mouse, or even by external mouses, without needing extra equipment, flat surfaces to work on, or anything but just you or your computer.

If we're just talking about interface, Mac's is just... awesome.

also, the mouse has the wrong number of buttons.

lol, if I want to right click, I'll just click with two fingers anywhere on the pad... which by the way, feels MUCH better than forcing the weak muscles of the middle finger to push independently of the pointer.
 
There's a difference between the trackpad and the shitty bullshit shit shit shitty shit of the Apple Mighty Mouse.

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The Macs at school have them and I used to pack a mouse in my bag so I wouldn't have to use them.
 
I have a high end HP Envy 14 which at the time of purchase was the competitor to the Macbook Pro. I lack an SSD but a core i7, 8 gigs of ram, and a mid range mobile video card gives it much more performance over a mac. The only downside is the battery life which the macbook pro completely destroys it in.

If you really need a laptop now, I would look into an ultrabook. Asus has some really nice ones. Ultrabooks are basically like macbooks airs except with more processing power. The price point on them is pretty high atm due to SSD's but I think it's worth it. Due note that sometime in the future models with hybrid SSD's and HDD's will be coming out for about $600. The primary purchase for an SSD imo is for the boot/wake up from sleep, so being able to boot exceptionally fast and having a decent (I estimate about 500 gigs) hard drive seems pretty awesome.

Lenovo is also an excellent brand and you should check out some of their laptops.

But in my opinion, if you don't need one NOW, and can wait until let's say June, Intel will be releasing their Ivy Bridge CPU's (sadly today there was an announcement of a delay from April to June). They will out perform sandy bridge processors and will most likely feature the SSD/HDD hybrid combo.

But alas, if you need a lot of power go with a PC. Dell and Lenovo are probably the best. If video editing is your primary use then go with a high end Macbook Pro. However do realize the new Macbook Pro's releasing this year will destroy the current ones, so it comes down to do you need one now, or can you wait.

Also Desktop > Laptop all day err day. :)
 
I use a mac, and have been ever since OSX came out all those years ago. I'm a graphic design student, and don't have any problems with my mac at all.
It even plays those silly dreamworld games just fine! :P You can also dl VLC and a really good bittorrent client for the mac too (if you're into that kind of stuff).

To all the people complaining about the one button mouse, you can change it to a normal two button mouse in the system preference options. >.>;
However, the feel of the mac mouse is bleh. It just doesn't feel right in my hand. Everyone's different though, some people love it, while others hate it.
I ended up buying a Logitech Mx518 years ago. Just plugged it in, didn't have to install anything, and it worked straight out of the box.
This was when I played WoW and UT, back in the day, but it still works fine!

I'm going to agree with Firestorm, and say get the mac for your video editing. I highly doubt you'll be disappointed.
 
solid-state drives are awesome. i would take a 64gb ssd over any arbitrarily large hdd. 'hybrids' are dumb -- they still have all the disadvantages of the hdd.

ugh rushan the computers at my school have exactly those and i have to use them because windows has lol keyboard navigation j_j
 
There's an easy way to solve the debate, you know. Just get a computer and install Linux. Problem solved.

Then again, that's a bit hypocritical of me, seeing as I use a Mac.
 
^This. If we're talking about intuitive use, comfort, and power of the physical interface, than I have to say that the Macbook Pro and it's family is absolutely superior than any non-customized PC.

After getting used the mouse/keyboard on the Macbook pro, I don't think I can ever feel satisfied with your standard PC interface again.

I actually like the depth of the keys, and PC keyboards often feel too shallow or too sticky to me. Though, if we're talking about PC, there are like a billion different makers and they all do things differently... Most notably, I hate how all the commands, mostly dependent on the Control button on PC, use a button that's so damn far away from the center of the keyboard. Anyone used to using computers uses the "command" button (or Control on PC) constantly, and having to use a weak finger like your pinkie or ring finger to hold it down is just painful. Command button on both sides of the Space Bar? Mac, ur doing it right. :)

Now if we're talking about mouse...

Ughh, I don't think I'd ever go back your typical point and click mouse again, not after getting used to the magic of Mac's touchpad.

I've always hated how the slightest touch on a pc pad = clicking. A lot of touchpads have buttons to push next to the touchpad because it's recognized that a lot of people hate the simple touch = click-- you want to push a button to get the response you want with exactness.

I had a Toshiba PC before buying the newest gen of Macbook Pro. I used it for years and always hated the touchpad. I think this is highlighted by the number of PC users that carry an external mouse with their Laptop! Come on, let's face it-- that's just annoying extra equipment to have. Plus, a touchpad doesn't need a surface to use-- it's just more convenient, so I can use it while sitting at an airport, waiting at a train station, on a bench in the part, etc. etc. Too bad PC touchpads suck...

It's just infuriating how it clicks when I'm just barely touching, or sometimes doesn't click if I didn't do it just right~~! *tears hair out*

The Mac's touchpad's click is intuitive because it's an actual button. It sinks ever so slightly, so the pushing motion is extremely exact~~ <3

This is not even getting into the various motions of the touchpad that give quick access to a huge breath of features. The quick sliding up and down of two fingers is so comfortable and natural that just the thought of a mouse wheel makes my stomach squirm.

God, I can just talk about viewing pictures in preview (especially reading manga or doujinshi)... it's magical...

2 fingers up-down goes up and down on one image. 3 fingers up-down goes back or forward a page. pinch fingers = zoom in, spread fingers = zoom out. The command button, conveniently located next to my spacebar, lets me easily use command-0 to go to original size, or command-2 to go to double size. It's so easy and immediate.

Using 3 fingers to navigate back-forward in a browser, or using 4 fingers to have instant access to your desktop by sliding up, or instant access to every single open window lined up for you to browse to by sliding down.

God, using all the fingers of my hand to get a huge variety of instant responses with an exactness that is impossible by any built in PC laptop mouse, or even by external mouses, without needing extra equipment, flat surfaces to work on, or anything but just you or your computer.

If we're just talking about interface, Mac's is just... awesome.

lol, if I want to right click, I'll just click with two fingers anywhere on the pad... which by the way, feels MUCH better than forcing the weak muscles of the middle finger to push independently of the pointer.

OH god, this is so fricking true. Especially in photo editing. I've used nothing but a MacBook for the last couple years, and today my brother was hogging it and i had to use my Dell desktop. The mouse is just such a piece of SHIT when you're used to a trackpad! i went to scroll sideways on the comics thread, and i was like "oh boy, i have to grab this little bar thingy? wtf is this?"
 
I personally am not a fan of using a trackpad for image or video editing... I just prefer a mouse for that. I find the trackpad fine for stuff like web browsing or reading comics, but when it comes to in-depth content creation I like having a mouse with two buttons + scroll wheel.
 
If you're willing to deal with the confusing OS and get a bunch of cool software in return, a Mac is worth it.
What sort of "cool software" are you referring to?

^This. If we're talking about intuitive use, comfort, and power of the physical interface, than I have to say that the Macbook Pro and it's family is absolutely superior than any non-customized PC.

After getting used the mouse/keyboard on the Macbook pro, I don't think I can ever feel satisfied with your standard PC interface again.

I actually like the depth of the keys, and PC keyboards often feel too shallow or too sticky to me. Though, if we're talking about PC, there are like a billion different makers and they all do things differently... Most notably, I hate how all the commands, mostly dependent on the Control button on PC, use a button that's so damn far away from the center of the keyboard. Anyone used to using computers uses the "command" button (or Control on PC) constantly, and having to use a weak finger like your pinkie or ring finger to hold it down is just painful. Command button on both sides of the Space Bar? Mac, ur doing it right. :)

Now if we're talking about mouse...

Ughh, I don't think I'd ever go back your typical point and click mouse again, not after getting used to the magic of Mac's touchpad.

I've always hated how the slightest touch on a pc pad = clicking. A lot of touchpads have buttons to push next to the touchpad because it's recognized that a lot of people hate the simple touch = click-- you want to push a button to get the response you want with exactness.

I had a Toshiba PC before buying the newest gen of Macbook Pro. I used it for years and always hated the touchpad. I think this is highlighted by the number of PC users that carry an external mouse with their Laptop! Come on, let's face it-- that's just annoying extra equipment to have. Plus, a touchpad doesn't need a surface to use-- it's just more convenient, so I can use it while sitting at an airport, waiting at a train station, on a bench in the part, etc. etc. Too bad PC touchpads suck...

It's just infuriating how it clicks when I'm just barely touching, or sometimes doesn't click if I didn't do it just right~~! *tears hair out*

The Mac's touchpad's click is intuitive because it's an actual button. It sinks ever so slightly, so the pushing motion is extremely exact~~ <3

This is not even getting into the various motions of the touchpad that give quick access to a huge breath of features. The quick sliding up and down of two fingers is so comfortable and natural that just the thought of a mouse wheel makes my stomach squirm.

God, I can just talk about viewing pictures in preview (especially reading manga or doujinshi)... it's magical...

2 fingers up-down goes up and down on one image. 3 fingers up-down goes back or forward a page. pinch fingers = zoom in, spread fingers = zoom out. The command button, conveniently located next to my spacebar, lets me easily use command-0 to go to original size, or command-2 to go to double size. It's so easy and immediate.

Using 3 fingers to navigate back-forward in a browser, or using 4 fingers to have instant access to your desktop by sliding up, or instant access to every single open window lined up for you to browse to by sliding down.

God, using all the fingers of my hand to get a huge variety of instant responses with an exactness that is impossible by any built in PC laptop mouse, or even by external mouses, without needing extra equipment, flat surfaces to work on, or anything but just you or your computer.

If we're just talking about interface, Mac's is just... awesome.



lol, if I want to right click, I'll just click with two fingers anywhere on the pad... which by the way, feels MUCH better than forcing the weak muscles of the middle finger to push independently of the pointer.
The different keyboard and mouse interfaces (especially the mouse) are actually things that are slightly discouraging me from getting a Mac. I'm not saying they're bad; they're just not what I'm used to. I never really thought that using the Ctrl key requires the use of my weakest finger, but using all the Ctrl shortcuts (most notably Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and Ctrl+F) is second-nature to me; I don't even look at the keyboard. The same goes for using the Fn key and the embedded number keys to type accented letters and other symbols. I have to imagine that Macs have similar shortcuts, right?

As far as the mouse goes, I know a lot of people who hate PC touchpads (much like you said), but I personally got used to it very quickly and now I never use a USB mouse. As I said earlier, I really like the "pointing stick" mice (more than the touchpad). Pwnemon mentioned having to grab the scroll bars, but I actually rarely do that; I usually use the touchpad's built-in scroll feature (running your finger along the right edge to scroll vertically or along the bottom edge to scroll horizontally), and sometimes the Page Up / Page Dn or arrow keys. I'm also very used to right-clicking (I do it all the time), and am not sure how clicking with 2 fingers instead would feel to me.

On top of that, I know Windows and its native programs inside and out. Since I would need to install Windows on a Mac (I'd still keep OS X of course), would its functionality be limited due to the Mac keyboard/mouse, or will the same tricks that work in OS X work in Windows?

All that said, I do have an open mind about MacBooks, so perhaps I'll stop by the Apple store and play with them a bit. If I were to get one, I definitely would wait for the next revision. From what I hear, they may be out as soon as next month.

On the subject of SSDs, I actually own one (120 GB SATAII).
 
What sort of "cool software" are you referring to?

The different keyboard and mouse interfaces (especially the mouse) are actually things that are slightly discouraging me from getting a Mac. I'm not saying they're bad; they're just not what I'm used to. I never really thought that using the Ctrl key requires the use of my weakest finger, but using all the Ctrl shortcuts (most notably Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and Ctrl+F) is second-nature to me; I don't even look at the keyboard. The same goes for using the Fn key and the embedded number keys to type accented letters and other symbols. I have to imagine that Macs have similar shortcuts, right?

Yes, the mac has similar shortcuts. Just replace Crtl with the Cmd key, it's the little key next the spacebar with the apple on it. Your Crtl+C is now Cmd+C.
Typing symbols and accented letters is a lot easier on the mac imo.

List of accented letters and symbols on a mac
 
Just gonna say that Wine is a great free program for people who want to run .exes on their mac and don't have the memory/resources to dual boot, although most complicated programs will run slowly if at all.
 
Just gonna say that Wine is a great free program for people who want to run .exes on their mac and don't have the memory/resources to dual boot, although most complicated programs will run slowly if at all.
Yeah, I've heard Wine is pretty good. If I get a Mac though, I'll definitely make sure I have the resources necessary to dual-boot.
 
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