Planning for your Future (Investments/Contribution Plans)

AJers

Your typical e-wench
I decided to make this thread because I wanted to hear other peoples advice/experiences with long-term investments and/or contribution plans (specifically, 401[k]s), or other methods of planning for your future.

Being that I was in HR when the annual summaries came in from our 401(k) specialist when the market had it's first big hiccup (to put it lightly), I am aware of a lot of the hits that the older employees investments took. They were pretty harsh, considering that most of the older employees were depending on the ENTIRE money they had in their 401(k) plan for their retirement years. It made me start to think about the security of my future; granted, my 401k plan isn't a big deal in my life right now. But, I'm not sure if it's the only protection I want to have for the future.

For those of you who don't want to read about my 401k, just skip down to the questions on the bottom. :P

For my 401(k) plan, I'm wavering between sticking with my pre-made "balanced" portfolio, or edging it up with a growth portfolio and/or a personally allocated one that would be a little more aggressive; and I am thinking of increasing my contribution percentage.

The reasoning behind me wanting to move to a more aggressive portfolio would be as follows: 1. I don't have kids/family that is going to depend on that money, yet; 2. I have a pretty good life-insurance policy if I accidentally die younger than I think I will that will take care of my end-of-life expenses and help out my immediate family, a little; 3. I am reasonably young enough to build up funds again if my 401k portfolio absolutely fails (unless I die young, in which case it won't matter!); and 4. I don't mind the gamble at this stage in my life (I don't think, haha, I've never lost a lot of money, we'll see).

Bumping up my contribution percentage would obviously increase the amount of money I can give towards my portfolio to play with (or theoretically, save), but it won't effect the amount my employer is matching(3%). Last year I didn't see a reason to go higher than what my employer matched because I figured I could use my money on more "immediate" needs. However, now that I've had time, I think I'll kick it up somewhere between 9-12%... I'm just not sure. I need to play with the numbers.

Anyways, for those of you with the tl;dr complex:

I'm curious: What are you planning and/or doing to protect your future? Are you relying on 401(k)'s? If not, what else are you doing?

Have you even gotten to the stage in your life where you're thinking about planning for the future? If not, at what stage in your life do you think you'll start to plan for it?

If you have a 401k, what types of investments do you have in your portfolio? What percentage or amount do you contribute? What percent (if any) do your employers match?

And, of course, what color of underwear are you wearing? :P
 
Red flannel. (I had to check.)

I don't work anymore, but in the 2.5 years I spent at the law firm before school, I had a pretty nice 401k going with the firm matching 100% of my contributions. I can't say I knew exactly what I was doing when I started it, they just told me to choose any 3 investments out of a list of about 8 or 9, so I picked pretty randomly. It worked out pretty well, though, as they seemed to be stable even during the economic downturn. I can't touch that money right now, sadly, but I'm glad it's there.
 
You have to manage yourself. Do not buy and hold. Do not buy and hold. Do. not. buy. and. hold.

If you do want to buy and hold, then put it in something like http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=VFIIX&t=2y&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=&a=&c= (this one being vanguard specific); something that gives a 4% or so dividend total in a year and never drops significantly (as you can see, fell from 10.5 maximum before the stock market fallout to about 10.05 minimum during the absolute worst of the fallout). I put my 401K for this year into a fund in April, rode it until it fell about 7% at any one point, and sold out at about +40% value. Being either "patient", genuinely lazy (just going with random funds, sorry DM), or "greedy" are all problems in any casual investing! And sure, I missed out on about maybe another 15% off the highs as the stocks kept slowly rising afterward, but now it is lower than where I sold at and I am not worrying about anything making dividends in my GNMA fund unless it ever starts hemorrhaging - the next time I invest that money aggressively will be the next time a significant bull market forms.

This all might not be the best answer either! I am still certainly learning how to invest, and this is just what I have come up with so far.
 
Hahaha, but handpicking is sooo much more complicated. I swear, even the form they provided makes my eyes cross. I'll look into it, though, see if I can pick out the head from the ass and go from there. *sigh*

Who knew it was so much work? :P
 
... the best thing I can say is buy either a S7P 500 index fund or buy a dow 30 index fund. IF you dont think you know crap about whats going on in the market. that way you will be at the market at all times. (though now its a bit late to buy Dow though not by much 33% return if you play your cards right)
 
Yeah, just buy a total market fund that charges a yearly expense and averages out to nothing against inflation...! Brilliant! Buy and hold lives on, who knew!
 
Well things are totally different in the UK. I'm reading this and I'm like what the hell is a 401k?

We have the state pension, which is peanuts. I don't think my current employer operates a pension scheme, and anyway I'm on min wage.

Besides, I'm still young. I think 25-30 is about the right time to start making sure pensions are set up. When I'm actually earning a decent amount of money.
 
Before you do anything, learn about your tax liabilities from any investment activity.

Buy commodities and precious metals.
Buy Chinese dividend stocks that rely on internal demand (not exports).
If you want to hold paper money, hold it in Aussie dollars. The Euro is worth considering.

Stay away from the US Dollar and Sterling. By extension, avoid US and UK stocks.

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I own gold on www.bullionvault.com. One of my uncles in China looks after my portfolio of Asian stocks. I own no US, UK or European stock.

Save and look after your own money, do not trust third parties. The commissions and taxes compound the risk of losses. If you are risk averse, just hold cash in savings accounts (with some abroad), hedged with gold.

If you want to invest, make your investment decisions based on the fundamentals. There is always noise in the market due to government intervention and speculation, but the fundamentals do not lie. Always do your due diligence.

Cantab: it is never too soon to start saving for your future.
 
i get rrsp's (a gic) every year to help for my saving, and to help me out on my taxes. i have my first one maturing in less than a month so i get to reinvest it again :D
 
I own gold on www.bullionvault.com...do not trust third parties.
Those two statements would seem to contradict each other.

Cantab: it is never too soon to start saving for your future.
Well I've just managed to get a min wage job after 6 months unemployment, I've a nearly £3000 overdraft and about a £16000 student loan. I think paying off that overdraft before I start getting charged interest on it is rather more important than worrying about stuff that won't matter for several decades. Once my finances in the present are better, then I can start worrying about the future.
 
Those two statements would seem to contradict each other.

The difference is that I make the investment decision, not a third party. What I meant by my comment was "don't invest in a fund or a brokerage that picks stocks for you". Bullion Vault simply performs the transaction.
 
Why the Australian Dollar? The whole "lots of natural commodities and China loves them" stuff?

Partly, but also because the Australian base rate is significantly higher than that of other major currencies. And unlike the Chinese RMB, the AUD is allowed to float.

Base rates:

UK: 0.50%
US: 0.25%
ECB: 1.00%
AUS: 3.75%

So holding savings in an Australian account is obviously desirable, especially when commodity prices rise (and they will). Higher commodity prices lead to higher nominal exports, causing the AUD to appreciate and currency movements are not taxed (at least not in the UK). The AUD has trended positive against the G7 basket of currencies for the last 12 months and the country maintains a trade surplus.

The fundamentals are sounder, so there is not the same risk of default like the US or UK.
 
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