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Playstyles

I've been using an offensive team for a little while now (with absolutely no walls or tanks, my bulkiest team members being Garchomp and Heatran), so I have to rely completely on balls-to-the-wall prediction to win. I see a Heracross, I know for a fact it can kill anything on my team in just one hit, so I have to predict right, or it's game over. Losing even one team member can lose me the game, as I rely on immunities and resistances; if Heatran goes down, I have a Fire weak; if Gengar goes down, nothing can switch in to fighting or ground attacks. I'm using this team because I not only hate stall, but also to improve my prediction in general.

So far, I'm doing pretty well, although I still find myself attacking conservatively (as in, rather than predicting the Garchomp switchin and use HP Ice, I Shadow Ball as I know I can at least damage whatever comes in a little, even if not much, while HP Ice leaves me vulnerable to his Heatran). That's what I want to work on; doing crazy stuff like T-Bolting Garchomp and EQing Gyarados. However, I'm totally anti-conservation when it comes to switching; I love bringing Roserade in against a twice NP'd Infernape's CC, then bringing in Heatran to take the Flamethrower, even if he already knows I have both.
 
Jarizos said:
The only way sucessfully win is to overpredict and underpredict
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I'd have to say this is incorrect.

For example, in my earlier post I mentioned "stall teams that play to not lose." Those kind of teams are so overwhelmingly bulky that they can compensate for being predicted, as the Pokemon tend to overlap each other's defenses, creating a sort of "net" that can still hold itself together after taking a large hit. In essence, as long as their strategy is taking its toll, you can, as MoP would say, "do whatever the hell [you] want".
 
"Stall...

Stall...

Stall...

Keep stalling...


NOW, CHOICE BAND RAMPARDOS, STRIKE WITH THE POWER OF TEN-THOUSAND SUPERNOVAS!!!"


It's working out pretty good.
 
i go with massive attacking power and revenge killing

i don't care if you kill my pokemon, i'll just send your pokemon to hell with them!
 
My playstyle depends on who I'm playing against.
I tend to play conservative against players who seem to be new.
I tend to play aggressive against players with more skill...
 
Ok, I've had a bit of a think about my playstyles and i think i've worked out what mine is!

Early on in the battle I tend to focus on eliminating any Pokes I concider "threats" Anything I can't counter 100% has to go! Hence I use Pokes like Magnezone to trap steels, and Staraptor to revenge kill anything weakened.

At the middle of the battle I try and clean up any lose ends and get rid of the opponents remaining Pokemon one by one. This is the smallest part.

Eventually I end up with an opponent down to one or two pokes that I can counter 100% certainly, now comes the long part! I almost always and up stalling the opponents last one or two Pokemon out of PP!!! I can never seem to pull off a clean sweep...
 
At the start of a battle, I take it casually, as I don't know whats on his team, and scout to see whats on his team, putting up entry hazards and move scouting as I go. Around the mid-to end game, instinct tells me to play more aggresively and predict accordingly, as I know that a wrong move might secure the win for the guy on the other end of the connection, or worse, either one of us might start a major PP-stall war between our walls.
 
I just adjust to the team I am using in that particular battle.

When you're using a stall team, you generally don't need to take serious risks, as you're the one defending the opposing Pokemon. If you know their set, or if you just know what moves they'll most likely have, then you know what your next move will be.

When using an offensive team, I play differently, for the better. If I can predict a switch-in, and I have a move that can hurt my opponent's counter too (aswell as their current Pokemon) giving me two choices, either one can damage my opponent's current Pokemon, or their switch-in. Therefore, I have to predict what their next move will be by looking at various other parts of the battle, taking into account what they've done previously in the battle in a similar situation.

I have to adapt a style for the team I'm using at the time, using what I know etc. I can do that.
 
I do speedy, more oriented on mixed and physical sweeper, with minor tanking.

I don't predict until I get two of my Pokemon KOed, or statused. Then, I tend to be overpredicting, like "If I use EQ now, I could lose a Pokemon to Skarmory or a levitator!" That usually costs me the battle. Which is why my losses are more than my wins.

Plus, I don't breed defensive Pokemon, as they often result in hardcore breeding for months on end. >.< I tried that with Swampert, didn't even get an Impish one until two months later, and it was 17/23/25/27/30/6.
 
Aeroblacktyl said:
I'll always do whatever the hell I want. The way I see it, if they're incompetent, then if I failed, then it's probably not that hard to get out of the hole. If they're competent, they probably wouldn't play risky for a while, especially until they know the team advantages/etc, therefore it's not like my whatever the hell I want mentality will screw me over.

But then again this only works if you're playing on the offense. If you're on the defensive, you're playing into the opponent's hand and don't have a choice tbh.
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I play like this a lot when I'm just casually playing ladder battles for the hell of it.

When I know I'm playing somebody good though, I'll often play a LOT more conservative than what I used to play, and I think a hell of a lot more about my predictions than when I usually play. I'm not as risky as MoP when it comes to the big matches, I know that.
 
I probably make some of the riskiest moves that no one here would ever dream of attempting. On multiple occasions, I've switched in my Tyraniboah into Lucarios praying that they are using specs Dark Pulse/ Hp Ice. I obviously have to scout its moves beforehand. If I pull this off correctly, I set up my sub and proceed to the raping.
 
I play very carefully. Obviously I'm not going to try to Thunderbolt a Gyarados, I'll take the neutral road and Ice Beam the thing or something.

It has cost me a lot of battles, but it's also won me quite a few as well.
 
astrohawke said:
In a regular battle, like a random ladder match, you always play conservative at the start. Send thunderbolts at gyarados and ice beam at garchomp. The reason for this is

1) You don't yet know what type of player your opponent is. He could be a complete noob and predicting that he will switch gyarados out of a thunderbolt and having him stay in and attack you can backfire. So you always test the waters first to see what he is likely to do throughout the battle.

2) You don't yet know your opponent's team. You can't really predict if you don't have some idea what they're likely to do. For example, you might predict that gyarados will switch out of an electric attack and a ground type might come in to take it. So you use an ice attack but they send in magnezone. No harm done really but then it goes back to point 1 where they might not have switched at all and if you used that ice attack, it would have cost you.

Once you get a grasp of the type of player your opponent is and you've scouted their team significantly, then you begin playing ballsy and making crazy predictions because at that point, you have some idea what to predict instead of just blindly predicting.
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Yes, that's the point. If you play randomly you are likely to lose, so at first I often try to play safely. Once you have scouted, you have to predict. If you always play the obvious you will always lose to top players.

You have to try and abuse your oponent, but this doesn't mean being a suicide-guy, you predict when you have to predict. And once you get an advantage, you tend to play conservative again.
 
I make fairly dangerous predictions sometimes, but mostly when I don't care if I lose that Pokemon and if it means Pokemon 2 can't set up (obviously never when I'm using a stall team). Sometimes I even make guesses to what the remaining unseen Pokemon will be since I have played so many of the same Pokemon combinations (Dragon + Jirachi, Garchomp + Tyranitar, Heatran + Grass, Gengar + Lucario, Skarmory + Blissey, Abomasnow + Tentacruel, Gyarados + Electivire/Magnezone/Jolteon, etc).

I also try to make my predictions random and unpredictable early game (ie. With Scarfgar, I may or may not use Thunderbolt on a Gyarados lead. There is an equally high chance I will use Hypnosis).

With stall teams of course I play conservatively (sometimes with Blissey I make predictions that may cause me to lose 50% but thats about it), not doing so results in loss of wall X which allows sweeper Y to easily beat me.
 
I'm generally conservative and dislike losing Pokemon to a fault. This has the unfortunate side effect of making me overpredict my opponent, which usually backfires and results in me taking >50% to the face. This is also why non-choice mixed sweepers terrify me.
 
I'd Thunderbolt a Gyrados, just to scount out a team. Worst comes to worse, I can stop an electivire with my other pokemon. But it also show me the skill level.
 
Anyone that has played me before knows I play very ballsy as thats the only way I can really win the current team Im playing. Especially after playing the same people over again and they know the tricks to the team and how I run it Im forced to out predict my opponent. Now if I was playing a diffrent team it would just depend what I was playing because the strat and play style differs between teams.
 
Super hyper offensive, it makes pokemon so much more fun and exciting. I always loved using CB teams in Advance and now just use choice.
 
I typically end up playing more conservatively, but my play style is unbelievably strange. All my teams are built in a way that can switch off between stalling and offense on a dime and my playing style reflects that. I'll often stall for dozens of turns until I can get Lucario or whichever mixed sweeper is on my team out on the field and then stage an offensive until I lose momentum.
 
It depends.

If I'm playing UU vs. UU I propbably play rather conservatively.

If I'm going UU vs. OU then I have to take risks.
 
Now that I've added sucker punch Abosl to my team i'm very balls to the wall. Absol is an awesome Pokemon and using it is always a test of prediction, but its always excitign as hell! Will Azelf Hp fight me? Or will it NP again and I waste a turn sucker punching?
 
Usually I'm more offensive, but I also mix in a good amount of prediction as well. If I start to lose, I'll usually get more conservative as well.
 
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