Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

[Prophet]

Anyone noticed that Black Kyurem didn't have an ability slide-in when it came out? That cancels out Teravolt/Turboblaze/Snow Warning/Pressure so looks like we're getting something different for this guy.

Then there's the possibility of Overdrive becoming an ability...but..

Reshiram didn't have it either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7hKGAwMinc

41:40

 

[Mario With Lasers]

From Pokejungle, about that scientist dude:

Please let him turn into a DW ability tutor...

Considering this quote and his color scheme, he surely has a relation with Kyurem and its Overdrive.

 

[Jibaku]

Reshiram didn't have it either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7hKGAwMinc

41:40

Oh I just noticed now that the screen moved away to the person on what would have otherwise been the ability showcase. Meh

 

[R_N]

Still no Snow Warning though, Reshiram took no damage between turns

Sorry mwl

 

[Jukain]

Achroma could be the one that puts Kyurem in "Overdrive" since he supposedly has a tool that 'activates' Pokemon. Seems more realistic than a Dream World tutor.

 

[Tytus]

Reshiram didn't have it either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7hKGAwMinc

41:40

It's hard to tell, it might just be the lag, but it looks like that sequence is cut up a bit, skipping the part where the ability activates. Like Reshiram pops out of the ball, and is then suddenly full size on the screen, it skips the zooming in motion. But like I said, that may have just been the lag.
If not... weird.

 

[Katakiri]

I just noticed Black 2 & White 2 each have their own seprate HP/Exp Bar with one having a White bar & the other having a Black bar

 

[Golden Aether]

Also note that Black Kyurem was in overdrive right when it came out.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

Still no Snow Warning though, Reshiram took no damage between turns

Sorry mwl

Could you even see the end of the turn in that video ?__?

EDIT-- FUCK YOU'RE RIGHT

 

[Katakiri]

In the battle on Pokemon Smash, Kyurem nearly OHKOed Reshiram with Resh hanging on by what seemed like a pixel.
So I did some calcs (All at Level 50 like in Pokemon Smash with Neutral Nature Kyurem)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 57.14% - 67.43%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 74.29% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 79.38% - 93.75% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now I'll give Kyurem Base 150 Attack like Speculated:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 64% - 76%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 70.86% - 84% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 90% - 105.62% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now back to Base 130 Attack, but let's assume it has an Ability that boosts it's stats:
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 84.57% - 100%
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 94.29% - 111.43% (-Def Nature)
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 118.12% - 139.38% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Normal Adamant Kyurem vs Hardy Reshiram:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 73.71%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 77.5% - 91.88% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs)


I think we can safely say that, Kyurem not getting some form of power-buff is entirely out of the question since those calcs were all 31 Attack IVs Kyurem and even with Adamant & a -Def Nature Target, Kyurem couldn't come close to the damage Black Kyurem did to Reshiram even if he hit for Max Damage.

Other than that, these calcs prove nothing. In fact, maybe it was EVed. Who knows? My statement could be entirely wrong if it was EVed.

 

[R_N]

Could you even see the end of the turn in that video ?__?

EDIT-- FUCK YOU'RE RIGHT

Maybe they, specifically, have a hidden ability that is Snow Warning!

 

[jas61292]

I think we can safely say that, Kyurem not getting some form of power-buff is entirely out of the question since those calcs were all 31 Attack IVs Kyurem and even with Adamant & a -Def Nature Target, Kyurem couldn't come close to the damage Black Kyurem did to Reshiram even if he hit for Max Damage.

Other than that, these calcs prove nothing. In fact, maybe it was EVed. Who knows? My statement could be entirely wrong if it was EVed.

Or they could have changed the base power of the attack just to screw with us. Who knows. Good calcs though. It gives us some hope for something cool.

 

[Jukain]

In the battle on Pokemon Smash, Kyurem nearly OHKOed Reshiram with Resh hanging on by what seemed like a pixel.
So I did some calcs (All at Level 50 like in Pokemon Smash with Neutral Nature Kyurem)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 57.14% - 67.43%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 74.29% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 79.38% - 93.75% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now I'll give Kyurem Base 150 Attack like Speculated:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 64% - 76%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 70.86% - 84% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 90% - 105.62% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now back to Base 130 Attack, but let's assume it has an Ability that boosts it's stats:
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 84.57% - 100%
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 94.29% - 111.43% (-Def Nature)
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 118.12% - 139.38% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Normal Adamant Kyurem vs Hardy Reshiram:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 73.71%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 77.5% - 91.88% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs)


I think we can safely say that, Kyurem not getting some form of power-buff is entirely out of the question since those calcs were all 31 Attack IVs Kyurem and even with Adamant & and -Def Nature Target, Kyurem couldn't come close to the damage Black Kyurem did to Reshiram even if he hit for Max Damage.

Other than that, these calcs prove nothing. In fact, maybe it was EVed. Who knows? My statement could be entirely wrong if it was EVed.

I'm just going to say it probably was not EV'd. Does anybody know what that HP number was? I'd like to know, so we can at least know what the HP stat is. If we can figure out the HP stat, that bring us one step closer to the stat spread of new Kyurem. If it is the same (which it most likely is), then what Katakiri said is likely accurate. However, in the interest of not over-complicating anything, I will agree that there is some kind of power boost.

EDIT: Where the hell did Snow Warning come from other than worthless hope? Just wondering.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

Maybe they, specifically, have a hidden ability that is Snow Warning!

Well, weak Kyurem still may have Snow Warning instead!

 

[jrp]

did anyone see any of these screenshots?

they appear to be Hoenn locations. I'm not sure how legit they are, but they look pretty realistic...

I'm just being hopeful though xD

 

[R_N]

Well, weak Kyurem still may have Snow Warning instead!

You...keep that hope alive!

 

[Golden Aether]

$100 says that Black Kyurem was using a Choice Band.

Still hoping for the recyclable Kyurem-exclusive Power Herb (aka God Stone).

 

[R_N]

did anyone see any of these screenshots?

they appear to be Hoenn locations. I'm not sure how legit they are, but they look pretty realistic...

I'm just being hopeful though xD

They were in CoroCoro
they


they aren't Hoenn. At all. You can even see the hut on the new map.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

Still hoping for the recyclable Kyurem-exclusive Power Herb (aka God Stone).

I want to believe that, but it's probably unlikely they'll do that.

I just realized that Black Kyurem will probably be subpar compared to White Kyurem. No viable Ice Stab, probably still no damn Earthquake, and a lot of other things I can't think of.

 

[Katakiri]

Still hoping for the recyclable Kyurem-exclusive Power Herb (aka God Stone).

This will happen the day Victini gets an item to remove V-Create's stat drops, Slaking gets an item to remove Truant, Regigigas gets an item to remove Slow Start, Latios gets Contrary, and the Starters get items to remove Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, & Hydro Cannon's Recharge turn.

 

[Dark Arceus]

In the battle on Pokemon Smash, Kyurem nearly OHKOed Reshiram with Resh hanging on by what seemed like a pixel.
So I did some calcs (All at Level 50 like in Pokemon Smash with Neutral Nature Kyurem)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 57.14% - 67.43%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 74.29% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 79.38% - 93.75% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now I'll give Kyurem Base 150 Attack like Speculated:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 64% - 76%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 70.86% - 84% (-Def Nature)
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 90% - 105.62% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Now back to Base 130 Attack, but let's assume it has an Ability that boosts it's stats:
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 84.57% - 100%
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 94.29% - 111.43% (-Def Nature)
0 +1 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 118.12% - 139.38% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs + -Def Nature)

Normal Adamant Kyurem vs Hardy Reshiram:
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 62.29% - 73.71%
0 Atk Kyurem Freeze Shock vs 0 HP/0 Def Reshiram: 77.5% - 91.88% (0 HP & 0 Def IVs)


I think we can safely say that, Kyurem not getting some form of power-buff is entirely out of the question since those calcs were all 31 Attack IVs Kyurem and even with Adamant & a -Def Nature Target, Kyurem couldn't come close to the damage Black Kyurem did to Reshiram even if he hit for Max Damage.

Other than that, these calcs prove nothing. In fact, maybe it was EVed. Who knows? My statement could be entirely wrong if it was EVed.

Maybe try calcs with stat boosting items (AKA Choice item seeing as how that could be like the only item, unless they used plates lol).

 

[Stellar]

There also could be new items like Griseous Orb that boost Dragon/Ice/Electric/Fire and cause Kyurem to change forms.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

You...keep that hope alive!

I want to see Kyogre falling from its throne before I grow old and boring and bald, that's all

This will happen the day Victini gets an item to remove V-Create's stat drops, Slaking gets an item to remove Truant, Regigigas gets an item to remove Slow Start, Latios gets Contrary, and the Starters get items to remove Frenzy Plant, Blast Burn, & Hydro Cannon's Recharge turn.

Don't forget Roar of Time.



Besides,

Map comparison

Where's Giant Chasm?

Gigantic map

EDIT-- Lol in fact, I can't see Giant Chasm; Dragonspiral Tower; a city south of Lacunosa, all the way down the mountain; Icirrus Gym (the irony); Challenger's Cave (no shit Sherlock), what I *think* should be the castle ruins in Desert Resort; and Striaton. That's... weird.

EDIT2-- Actually, except for the Moor, there's NOTHING in Icirrus...

 

[Stellar]

It's interesting to note that the plane from Mistralton's air field is now docked on the new area in the mountains near the Abundant Shrine.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

It's interesting to note that the plane from Mistralton's air field is now docked on the new area in the mountains near the Abundant Shrine.

There are two planes, actually, one by the new place and other in Mistralton.