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Pokemon Pokopia

So it turns out this a fully priced game and some say is at the same price as Mario Kart on Japan (which would be a big concern about future Nintendo games).
With that and the decently big file size for a nintendo game it may be a bigger deal than what me and many were anticipated, really hoping it has the same level of quality as Animal Crossing to excuse the price, this could be the best spinoff game we have seen in years, or a bad experiment, that trailer better doesn't disappoint (why not reveal all this stuff until after the trailer anyway?).
 
So it turns out this a fully priced game and some say is at the same price as Mario Kart on Japan (which would be a big concern about future Nintendo games).
With that and the decently big file size for a nintendo game it may be a bigger deal than what me and many were anticipated, really hoping it has the same level of quality as Animal Crossing to excuse the price, this could be the best spinoff game we have seen in years, or a bad experiment, that trailer better doesn't disappoint (why not reveal all this stuff until after the trailer anyway?).
Pricing in Japan has always been all over the place. In other territories it's standard price like DKB £58.99/€69.99/€69.99

I'd also say 10 GB is probably about average these days, even for Nintendo. Mario Kart was like...24gb? DK Banaza was almost 9. This is also being partially made by Koei Tecmo. (age of imprisonment is 44 GB jesus christ)

I mean maybe it was just me but I never expected this to be a tiny, cheap download only game from how they were presenting it. Honestly could have believed it'd be higher than 10 GB.
 
I was expecting it to be a full priced game. The first thing I thought when the trailer was shown was "Oh hey this is Dragon Quest Builders but with Pokemon", and that is a full priced game as well.

Now the question will be, is it worth 70 bucks. Probably not, the Pokemon games are never worth the full price, but you can also only get them full price. We'll see.
 
Pokopia release date announced
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Arcanine confirmed to be in Pokopia
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Eh people would say the same if blood moon ursaluna came out in this game

I mean I think that’s a pretty important contextual difference there…

- Bloodmoon Ursaluna was introduced in promotional material for a main series game

- These were not

That alone is a significant-enough reason to doubt that these will appear in the main series games instead of standing in the hall of spin-off variants alongside Primal Dialga, Shadow Mewtwo, Mystery Dungeon’s purple Kecleon, and all the Magikarp patterns from Magikarp Jump.
 
I'd say the only thing that might indicate they could possibly want to bring these over is that the game is being co-developed with GameFreak.

But then, again, these are all given cutsey names in Englishand mosslax is being put in the same bin as "smeargle with paint on it".
 
I see absolutely nothing about these guys that suggest they are not just Primal Dialga. Or Shadow Mewtwo.

Happy they are doing it again, would love to be proven wrong and see them in main games, but I don't know why the first assumption would be otherwise.
 
I see absolutely nothing about these guys that suggest they are not just Primal Dialga. Or Shadow Mewtwo.

Happy they are doing it again, would love to be proven wrong and see them in main games, but I don't know why the first assumption would be otherwise.
Primal Dialga is just an enraged Dialga with nothing special other than plot. Shadow Mewtwo is in the same spot as Shadow Lugia and shadows in general that they haven’t been introduced into the main series and they look exactly the same other than purple aura. Meanwhile Snorlax having a grass type form with grass growing on top of it doesn’t seem out of place for a regional. The others I’d argue sure, not enough has changed to be considered a new “form” for the main series, ghost pikachu could work with the smaller tail.
 
I'm expecting Mosslax to wake up and immediately start shouting for NAAAAIIIIIIIILLLLLLL.

Honestly I don't get the sense these are meant to be gameplay variants or anything. Snorlax literally is the same mon but with moss growing on it as a joke about how little it moves (something they kind of did a bit with the Gigantamax design, just more exaggerated here), and all the others don't really seem to indicate they do anything different, just have unique appearances.

The most I'd expect if they were in Mainline is something like the Cap Pikachus, Dada Zarude, Spiky-Eared Pichu, etc where they're cosmetically different but identical in gameplay to the regular versions, maybe with some transfer limitations, and possibly not even coming FROM Pokopia itself but just being in promotional events for TCG or other media coming out around that time or in its wake.
 
Primal Dialga is just an enraged Dialga with nothing special other than plot. Shadow Mewtwo is in the same spot as Shadow Lugia and shadows in general that they haven’t been introduced into the main series and they look exactly the same other than purple aura. Meanwhile Snorlax having a grass type form with grass growing on top of it doesn’t seem out of place for a regional. The others I’d argue sure, not enough has changed to be considered a new “form” for the main series, ghost pikachu could work with the smaller tail.
Shadow Mewtwo is not just a "purple aura" lmao. The crystal is literally plot important in Pokken. It's also not the same as the Orre games Shadows in nothing but name. I don't know why you are so set into these forms going into the main series, but the point is exactly the same. They are being made specifically with a spinoff or the anime in mind. Purple Keckleon, Armored Mewtwo, Primal Dialga, Shadow Lugia, again Shadow Mewtwo, the infected Six Heroes, the Pikachu variations in Alola, they all never made the way into the main series despite most of them having more actual differences beyond just aesthetical. It seems extremely obvious to me they are just going the Dragon Quest Builders of given individual personality traits to a species, that doesn't mean we are actually getting them. It may even be a way to differenciate say, Professor Tangrowth from wild ones. If anything it would ne a Spiky-Eared situation but nothing suggests that either.

Dialga is an aesthetic change and, as you mentioned, plot reasoning. It's already more than what we know about any of these which may be literally just aesthetic changes ala Purple Keckleon. Who, by the way, was even featured in the anime.

We don't even know why the Pikachu is white or if it has anything to do with ghosts. We don't even know if the Snorlax would be a different type, look at Regigigas or its G-max. Them being regional form- worthy is literally just an assumption, nothing wrong with that but if there are no solid evidences at all it stands to reason other people may not think the same.
 
A prominent theory emerging about Pokopia is that it's set in a post-apocalyptic Kanto specifically. I've seen people trying to map specific areas to LGPE and even claims of matching tilesets.

Is this usual Pokefan overanalysing patterncel stuff? Most likely. If real, however, it would be incredibly funny to me on several dimensions:
1) I made a spreadsheet envisioning a 30th anniversary far-off Kanto sequel with an expanded dex of Gen 2-9 mons and new forms. Well, they did it! Humanity had to go extinct for this to happen but, well, you know.
2) Continuing from the above, this would also somehow be the only Kanto game which actually makes proper use out of the cross-gen evos
3) Blocky survival crafting spinoff set in a fallen dark timeline? Wow it really IS just Dragon Quest Builders
 
A prominent theory emerging about Pokopia is that it's set in a post-apocalyptic Kanto specifically. I've seen people trying to map specific areas to LGPE and even claims of matching tilesets.

Is this usual Pokefan overanalysing patterncel stuff? Most likely. If real, however, it would be incredibly funny to me on several dimensions:
1) I made a spreadsheet envisioning a 30th anniversary far-off Kanto sequel with an expanded dex of Gen 2-9 mons and new forms. Well, they did it! Humanity had to go extinct for this to happen but, well, you know.
2) Continuing from the above, this would also somehow be the only Kanto game which actually makes proper use out of the cross-gen evos
3) Blocky survival crafting spinoff set in a fallen dark timeline? Wow it really IS just Dragon Quest Builders
It's definitely a Kanto/Johto pokecenter, at least. Sinnoh/Hoenn have an extra roof section between the entrance and the curved part, Unova's pokeball is on a glass background, Kalos' pokeball is a structure rahter than a pattern, later games have wildly different footprints and composition.

Though it looks like LGPE has the pokeball light up while here it's stone. I'm guessing the devs for this got the LGPE asset but not the lighting to work off.
 
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