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Pokemon Riddle

No, the super effective message comes after damage in Shoddy log, which these riddles are using as their template.

I'll ponder some more on that puzzle if Chinese Dood is not right (there is a missing ??? afterall). In other news I just learned Shuckle is part bug ._.

EDIT: Really? o_O The message comes after damage ingame, maybe that's what I was thinking. I dunno.

Anyways, +2 def Lucario takes 29.18% - 34.88% for Power Trick Shuckle using Rock Smash, while +2 Critical hit EQ from Lucario is 1084.53% - 1276.24% (way overboard). Neither add up, especially with the fact that Shuckle's got nothing to hit Lucario with. But I likely missed something.
 
Veedrock..


Metagross used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Houndoom lost 100% of its health.
drak6106's Houndoom fainted.


I just got this from shoddy. Super effective goes BEFORE damage.

Edit: That said, I don't know if this puzzle is possible.

Shuckle does not work, and I don't think there is anything else in the game that takes 812% from a crit EQ from lucario, even at +2.

2nd edit: Veedrock, looks like you checked STAB on Lucario's EQ. Uncheck it and do +2 and it works.
 
O yah, lol, I read 34% as 43% for the shuckle rock smash thing when I was doing the damage calculations, so my solution doesn't work at all even if the move was actually rock smash.

Oh, actually, maybe it's not Iron Defense then. Maybe it's Bulk Up, since Power Trick Shuckle rock smash does 39.15% - 46.26% to +1 Lucario, but yah, the ??? and the order of the messages still wouldn't work.

EDIT: Oh, but in that case, the calculation for the EQ would change also, since it'd be +3 instead of +2 after swagger. +1 does max of 638% and +3 does min of 903% so that wouldn't work out either lol. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm nowhere near the right answer.
 
Doesn't confusion (from swagger) have a message before each of Lucario's actions? Like..

Turn 2

Lucario is confused!
Lucario used Aura Sphere!

but that line isnt there, so I don't think swagger is a valid solution
 
Shuckle, Power trick are both correct.

The First Lucario Move is Key to other calcs, if i'm not mistaken.
 
X used A
Lucario lost 43% of its health

Are you sure that's right? None of Shuckle's moves can hit Lucario for that much damage and be neutral except for Natural Gift, but that'd need a Berry. Lucario can't change his type and Shuckle doesn't have any fixed damage move except for Bide, but that doesn't work here
 
Intro1827 said:
X used A
Lucario lost 43% of its health

Are you sure that's right? None of Shuckle's moves can hit Lucario for that much damage and be neutral except for Natural Gift, but that'd need a Berry. Lucario can't change his type and Shuckle doesn't have any fixed damage move except for Bide, but that doesn't work here
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Actually, none of Shuckle's other moves can hit Lucario neutrally at all. They're all either super-effective or resisted. I think Dogfish either forgot that Lucario is part Steel-type, he simply forgot a line from the riddle, or the ?? after the attack is a SE/resisted line of text.
 
MagicMaster87 said:
Actually, none of Shuckle's other moves can hit Lucario neutrally at all. They're all either super-effective or resisted. I think Dogfish either forgot that Lucario is part Steel-type, he simply forgot a line from the riddle, or the ?? after the attack is a SE/resisted line of text.
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Some HPs can hit for neutral. But here HP is Dark type so that goes out of the window
 
Alright, I think I got it now that Dogfish has fixed the riddle.

Dogfish44 sent out Shuckle
Enemy sent out Lucario
Lucario used Rain Dance
It started rainin!
Shuckle used Power Trick.
Shuckle swapped its stats!
Rain is falling. (or whatever it says)

Lucario used Aura Sphere
Shuckle lost 32% of its health
Shuckle used Gyro Ball
It's not very effective...
Lucario lost 43% of its health
Rain is falling.

Lucario used Toxic
The move Missed!
Shuckle used Dig
Shuckle burrowed underground! (or whatever it normally says)
Rain is falling.

Lucario used Earthquake
It's a critical hit!
Shuckle lost 812% of its health
Shuckle fainted

*EDIT*
Ignore what I had before if you saw it... >_>
 
Lol never mind. Rain dance seemes kind of gimmiky, even for a riddle. When i first saw this i thought it was sandstorm (prior to calculations)
 
This might be it?

Dogfish44 sent out Shuckle
Enemy sent out Lucario
Lucario used Toxic!
Shuckle was poisoned!
Shuckle used Power Trick
Shuckle swapped its stats!
Shuckle lost 6% (poison damage)

Lucario used Aura Sphere
Shuckle lost 32% of its health
Shuckle used Frustration/Return!
It's not very effective..
Lucario lost 43% of its health
Shuckle lost 12% (poison damage)

Lucario used Toxic
The move Missed!
Shuckle used Dig
Shuckle dug a hole!
Shuckle lost 18% (Poison damage)

Lucario used Earthquake
It's a critical hit!
Shuckle lost 812% of its health
Shuckle fainted.

Edit: eh, i guess it could be rain dance too.
 
Combined, the 2 most recent answers got it right.

Lucario was supposed to use sandstorm but my damage calculator hates me >.<

So Rain dance/Sunny Day were both viable.

Shuckle attacked using Return.

So combined, the 2 aforementioned won.

Good job :)

I'll think of one later.
 
Dogfish44 said:
Combined, the 2 most recent answers got it right.

Lucario was supposed to use sandstorm but my damage calculator hates me >.<

So Rain dance/Sunny Day were both viable.

Shuckle attacked using Return.

So combined, the 2 aforementioned won.

Good job :)

I'll think of one later.
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Actually, Return/Frustration maxes out at 102 power, which doesn't work according to libelldra:

446 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (102 Base Power): 93 - 109 (33.10% - 38.79%)

Gyro Ball, on the other hand, has a base power of 118 IIRC, which does the following:

446 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (118 Base Power): 107 - 126 (38.08% - 44.84%)
 
Oh right, I guess it can't be poison. RD/SD it is, then.

and Magicmaster, you have an error in your calcs. SHuckle has 496 attack not 446..

496 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (102 Base Power): 103 - 121 (36.65% - 43.06%)

496 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (118 Base Power): 119 - 140 (42.35% - 49.82%)

They both work.
 
I'm suprised that no one has posted anything about this one yet.

Slack King said:
No ubers, no NFE's, level 100, max IV's, neutral natures, no items, no EV's

Opponent switched in B!
A used X.
???
B lost 4% of its health.

A used X.
???
Critical Hit!
B lost 49% of its health.
B used Surf.
A lost 26% of its health.

I'm fairly sure there's only one solution to this...hopefully...
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I'm stumped on this one. I'm going to hazard a guess that Pokemon A has Sniper, and move X is any move that either increases in power each turn (Rollout or Fury Cutter), increases the attacking Pokemon's Atk/SpAtk or decreases Pokemon B's Def/SpDef.

Of the 3 fully evolved Pokemon with Sniper, Drapion is the only one that takes neutral damage from Surf. Of the three possible types of moves listed above, Drapion has access to Crunch, Rock Smash and Fury Cutter. However, I can't seem to find a Pokemon with access to Surf that can take 4% and then 49% from the same move, no matter the effect.

I did consider Shaymin using Seed Flare, as a SpDef drop and a crit might be enough to bump up Seed Flare's damage from 4% to 49%, but it can't be Shaymin since Surf hits Pokemon A for neutral damage. Smeargle using Seed Flare might work though, however I can't seem to find a Pokemon with Surf that is slower than Smeargle, has low enough a SpAtk to only manage 26% with Surf and good enough defences to only take 4% from a Seed Flare. The closest I was able to find is Hariyama, who takes ~10% from a Smeargle's Seed Flare.

Another possibility is that Sunny Day is in effect, but that would probably be mentioned in the log in some way. Either there would be a ??? entry before the second turn, or there would be a line saying that the sun is shining or that the sunlight has faded (or whatever the message is that indicates that Sunny Day is no longer in effect).

Granted, I haven't considered even close to every possible option, but hopefully what I have ruled out will be of use to others. I'm suprised at how difficult this one is for only having 3 things to figure out.
 
madjohnflint said:
Oh right, I guess it can't be poison. RD/SD it is, then.

and Magicmaster, you have an error in your calcs. SHuckle has 496 attack not 446..

496 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (102 Base Power): 103 - 121 (36.65% - 43.06%)

496 Atk vs 176 Def & 281 HP (118 Base Power): 119 - 140 (42.35% - 49.82%)

They both work.
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Whoops, looked at the wrong nature's stat. >.> I wonder how I was able to get every other stat correct except that one...
 
Trainer 1 switched in x
Pointed stones dug into x
x lost 3% of its health.
Trainer 2 switched in y
Pointed stones dug into y.
y lost 25% of its health.
x used ??.
---

x used Crunch.
y lost 66% of its health.
x lost 10% of its health.
y used Waterfall.
x lost 87% of its health.
Trainer 1's x fainted.
Trainer 2's y fainted.


What is x, y, and "??"? How did y faint as well as x?


Good luck!
 
Level 100
31 IVs in All Stats
No EVs
Neutral Natures
Max Damage Dealt
No Items
Pokemon Platinum Engine
Find the Species of Pokemon1 and Pokemon2
Find Moves A, B, C, D, E, and F
Find all ???s

Trainer1 sent out Pokemon1 and Pokemon2
Trainer2 sent out Pokemon3 and Pokemon4
Pokemon1 is exerting its Pressure
Pokemon2 is exerting its Pressure

Pokemon1 used A on Pokemon3
It's super effective!
Pokemon3 lost 16% of its health
???
Pokemon4 used Extrasensory on Pokemon2
Pokemon2 lost 28% of its health
Pokemon3 used Ancientpower on Pokemon1
It's super effective!
Pokemon1 lost 59% of its health
Pokemon2 used B
Pokemon4 lost 32% of its health
???
Pokemon3 lost 3% of its health

Pokemon1 used Roost
It gained 50% of its health
Pokemon2 used C on Pokemon3
Pokemon3 lost 18% of its health
???
???
???
Pokemon4 used C on Pokemon1
It's super effective!
Pokemon1 lost 42% of its health
Pokemon3 used D on Pokemon2
It's super effective!
Pokemon2 lost 18% of its health
???
???
Pokemon3 lost 3% of its health

???
Pokemon2 used Leer
???
Pokemon4's Defense fell
Pokemon4 used C on Pokemon1
It's super effective!
Pokemon 1 lost 42% of its health
Pokemon3 used E on Pokemon2
Pokemon2 lost 21% of its health
???
???
???
Pokemon3 lost 3% of its health

Pokemon1 used F on Pokemon4
Pokemon4 lost 57% of its health
Pokemon2 used Leer
???
Pokemon4's defense fell
Pokemon4 used Extrasensory on Pokemon2
Pokemon2 lost 28% of its health
Pokemon3 used Ancientpower on Pokemon1
It's super effective!
Pokemon1 lost 87% of it's health
Pokemon1 fainted
Pokemon3's Attack rose
Pokemon3's Defense rose
Pokemon3's Speed rose
Pokemon3's Sp. Atk. rose
Pokemon3's Sp. Def rose
???

Pokemon2 used Blizzard
It's not very effective...
Pokemon3 lost 8% of its health
Pokemon4 lost 23% of its health
Pokemon4 used C on Pokemon1
It's super effective!
Pokemon1 lost 42% of its health
Pokemon1 fainted
Pokemon3 used D on Pokemon 2
It's super effective!
Pokemon2 lost 35% of its health
Pokemon2 fainted
Trainer2 wins!

I think this one sucks, lol.

EDIT: Justinawe, do all the attacks do normal damage? As in, they aren't super-effective or not very effective. Because if they are, you are supposed to list them down. Sorry if they aren't though.

EDIT2: If the below answer is right, then sorry.
 
Justinawe said:
Trainer 1 switched in x
Pointed stones dug into x
x lost 3% of its health.
Trainer 2 switched in y
Pointed stones dug into y.
y lost 25% of its health.
x used ??.
---

x used Crunch.
y lost 66% of its health.
x lost 10% of its health.
y used Waterfall.
x lost 87% of its health.
Trainer 1's x fainted.
Trainer 2's y fainted.


What is x, y, and "??"? How did y faint as well as x?


Good luck!
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pokemon x is lucario pokemon y is gyarados. and gyara died from life orb. You know that because lucario is the only poke that 4x resist SR and with nuetral damage to waterfall. and i also believe that gyarados is the only poke who can take super effective damage from SR that can also use waterfall. >< and ?? is Earthquake. no damage was taken meaning y had to be flying type.
 
Slack King said:
No ubers, no NFE's, level 100, max IV's, neutral natures, no items, no EV's

Opponent switched in B!
A used X.
???
B lost 4% of its health.

A used X.
???
Critical Hit!
B lost 49% of its health.
B used Surf.
A lost 26% of its health.

I'm fairly sure there's only one solution to this...hopefully...
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A = lickilicky
X = magnitude
B = floatzel
 
LolIFillBlanks said:
pokemon x is lucario pokemon y is gyarados. and gyara died from life orb. You know that because lucario is the only poke that 4x resist SR and with nuetral damage to waterfall. and i also believe that gyarados is the only poke who can take super effective damage from SR that can also use waterfall. >< and ?? is Earthquake. no damage was taken meaning y had to be flying type.
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You're right except that there's no way a -1 lucario did 66% with crunch. It had to have been SD lucario.
 
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