SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Full Game Datamine General Discussion Thread

[R_N]

On one hand, I'm glad they've shown they don't mind changing older pokemon's abilities. Scolipede was nice (Chandelure & Zapdos also, but they weren't released in gen 5 sooo), but here's like 10 new changes

On the other hand they didn't do more and they didn't hand out any of the fun new abilities. gamefreak you introduced like a 7 new abilities that could easily go to a bunch of older pokemon why do you do this

 

[NinetyNineNo]

KNOCK OFF NERFED TO 45 BP.

BISHARP NO THEY KILLED YOU. ;_;

Hallelujah

Alolan Golem, aside from being Rock/Electric, gets Magnet Pull and Electric -ate. Me likey.

Any compilations of moveset/ability/stat changes to old Pokemon? Changes to old moves and abilities?

I just wanna hear Dragon Rush got more accuracy ;_;

 

[AztecCroc]

Wailord gets Noble Roar now, apparently.

 

[Pyritie]

god dammit it's like gen 6 all over again, where almost everything is borderline useless and there's only like 3 or 4 mons that are worth using

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

Pangoro now gets bullet punch, gamefreak is still stingy with mach punch it seems.

And Diancie finally gets power gem, meaning you can run fully special sets now.

 

[Highways]

I know it's not viable, but is no one going to metion Gyarados learns Hurricane now?

Tagging p2, free Thunder + Hurricane under rain!

 

[Siggu]

Woah. Apparently Azumarill lost Aqua Jet and Belly Drum.

Look at Marill.

 

[Halcyon.]

Woah. Apparently Azumarill lost Aqua Jet and Belly Drum.

It's under Marill's egg moves, are you sure Azu lost those moves?

 

[Zepeln]

It's under Marill's egg moves, are you sure Azu lost those moves?

Nevermind, I missed that part. Sorry about that.

 

[TURBODERP]

Why are people thinking that this gen is useless lol?

There looks to be a fairly large amount of stuff that's gonna be UU and above.

 

[Project_Mars]

Alolan Vulpix gets Icy Wind at level 15.

Well I don't know what my VGC team will look like, BUT I KNOW ONE THING THAT WILL BE THERE!

EDIT: Now that i am at home, MFW Not only This, but i realize that Farfetch'd actually has a decent Base Attack stat now:

 

[Green]

vgc this season is gonna be fantastic

 

[gvmgvm40]

Kartana

59/181/131/59/31/109

Grass/Steel

Beast Boost

Genderless

.1kg (20)

Undiscovered

30720 Steps

Slow

3 Atk

- Sacred Sword

- Defog

- Vacuum Wave

- Air Cutter

- Fury Cutter

- Cut

7 False Swipe

13 Razor Leaf

19 Synthesis

23 Aerial Ace

29 Laser Focus

31 Night Slash

37 Swords Dance

43 Leaf Blade

47 X-Scissor

53 Detect

59 Air Slash

67 Psycho Cut

73 Guillotine

TM04 Calm Mind

TM06 Toxic

TM10 Hidden Power

TM17 Protect

TM21 Frustration

TM27 Return

TM31 Brick Break

TM32 Double Team

TM40 Aerial Ace

TM44 Rest

TM48 Round

TM54 False Swipe

TM67 Smart Strike

TM68 Giga Impact

TM75 Swords Dance

TM81 X-Scissor

TM87 Swagger

TM88 Sleep Talk

TM90 Substitute

TM100 Confide

Okay, this looks pretty cool. Highest attack stat ever, 109 Speed, great physical bulk to handle priority. I don't see much except Skarm handling this.

 

[Karxrida]

Okay, this looks pretty cool. Highest attack stat ever, 109 Speed, great physical bulk to handle priority. I don't see much except Skarm handling this.

It even gets Defog! Why does it get Defog?

What's this Smart Strike move do?

 

[Preved Medved]

Torracat Spe: 90
Incineroar Spe: 60

Why are people thinking that this gen is useless lol?

There looks to be a fairly large amount of stuff that's gonna be UU and above.

But most of them are UB-xx

 

[CommandThrower]

Alolan Golem gets a "-ate" ability that turns Normal moves into Electric moves with a power boost. It still learns Explosion.

Hmmm.

 

[Kilgrave]

Just started watching the datamine videos.

Hmmm... starters. Nothing too special.

*falls off chair

HOLY CRAP LITTEN GETS INTIMIDATE

Edit: Toucannon has a rainbow beak and Sheer Force. Give me one now.

Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr. get adaptability. Oh my God this gen has got some crazy pokemon already.

Vikavolt is slow as shit :(

 

[OverlordDerp]

Marshadow's Z-Power

Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike
After obtaining Z-Power, the user, Marshadow,\npunches and kicks the target consecutively\nwith full force.
Ghost
Physical
195 Power
1 PP
Adjacent Pokémon
Flags 0x1

My boy Marshadow's got that Fist of the North Star-style finishing move, holy shit.

 

[Rarycaris]

It even gets Defog! Why does it get Defog?

What's this Smart Strike move do?

70BP, Physical steel, never misses. Almost strictly inferior to Iron Head.

Okay, this looks pretty cool. Highest attack stat ever, 109 Speed, great physical bulk to handle priority. I don't see much except Skarm handling this.

Vacuum Wave just got more useful.

Wailord gets Noble Roar now, apparently.

So do Solgaleo (not surprisingly) and the Kommo-o line.

 

[Gothic Togekiss]

https://paste.ee/r/zYMUr
Does A-Vulpix get's Heat Wave as an egg move or I'm getting my signals crossed.

 

[Rarycaris]

https://paste.ee/r/zYMUr
Does A-Vulpix get's Heat Wave as an egg move or I'm getting my signals crossed.

It does, along with Flare Blitz. Nice throwback to the original.

 

[Flarowak]

Idk what I was expecting from Alolan formes, but it wasn't this at all..

 

[R_N]

Idk what I was expecting from Alolan formes, but it wasn't this at all..

Yeah I was expecting some signficant stat rearrangement going on, not...10 points slightly rearranged.
Like why is exeggutor still primarily special attacker here

 

[Kilgrave]

Fomatis and Lurantis get Contrary Leaf Storm. Move over Serperior.