Sword & Shield **Official news only** DLC Crown Tundra 22nd October

Back when Dynamax was revealed, and we thought Max moves would be Z-move level of BP, I assumed that a bigger use of Protect / Fake out / Phazing would happen in singles.

That might still be the case to some degrees, after all Dynamax is only 3 turns
Semi-invulnerability moves too, like Fly or Shadow Force.

Edit: also paralysis I guess
 
Judging by the demo footage, it just cancels the Dynamax altoghether.


Note that the rain would happen after the HydroPump (so it wouldn't get the effect on the go), same for all other conditions, meaning that they can very well be reacted to (or even predicted), without needing a reactive dynamax, but also allowing a reactive dynamax (you just set rain, i'll commit my dynamax to eat that rain boosted hydropump with my boosted HP and set sun instead)
Yes, weather wouldn't influence the first attack, but your post actually made me think about something hilarious when facing mons with fairly expanded movesets.

Fight against Raid Tyranitar:

Sandstorm kicks in!

Player: "Ok gonna use a Water attack, Sobble evolution!"

Tyranitar used Max Flare (Fire Punch) on your partner's Grookey evolution! Grookey evolution is at 25% HP.

Sun kicks in!

"Ok, a neutral attack against Tyranitar's boosted 100+50%/100 bulk didn't do much."

Partner 1: "Grookey evolution, your Solarbeam in harsh sunlight!"

Tyranitar used Max Stone (Stone Edge) against Partner 2's Scorbunny evolution! Partner 2's Scorbunny evolution is exhausted!

Sandstorm kicks in again!

Partner 1:"Well, here goes Solarbeam. Can you use a water attack again?"
Player: "What if he uses Max Flare again? You're going to be food for Korviknight and he's still at 70%, we're not even at the shield yet and one of us is already down"
Partner 3: "Let's neutralize him and focus on damage later. Come on, let me try a status move. After all, I'm the loser without a starter, I'll leave damage to the two of you. Going to use my Gengar (we've seen Haunter popping up in Wild Areas) to put it to sleep with Hypnosis so we can focus on damage."

Tyranitar used Max Electric (Thunder Punch) on Player's Sobble evolution! Player's Sobble evolution is exhausted!

Electric Terrain kicks in! Tyranitar cannot be put to sleep!

Partner 3: *looks at partner 1*....

Partner 1: "Don't look at me, I'm still waiting on my Solarbeam here and I'm gonna be dead next turn probably. I'm sure Gengar will fare fantastic against a Tyranitar with Sandstorm up. Hey, we still haven't sustained its Dark STAB attack, I'm sure Gengar will. Hey, don't you happen to have Focus Blast on it, do you? That's a 100% reliable move!"
 
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Yes, weather wouldn't influence the first attack, but your post actually made me think about something hilarious when facing mons with fairly expanded movesets.
It is indeed hilarious, but it's also what makes me interested the most: pokemon with quite extensive movesets could provide insane utility if Dynamaxed, allowed to really flip the field conditions depending on what's on the board in that moment.
 


As it turns out, they used a separate model for Dynamax rather than upscaling it and then add some effects.
The three red clouds above the dynamaxed Pokémon supposedly represent the three turns that this new mechanic lasts.
Imagine if Game Freak didn't just add one superfluous extra model for every Pokémon, but three.

One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with one red cloud above its head.
One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with two red clouds above its head.
One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with three red clouds above its head.



lol
 
Going through the list of confirmed Pokémon so far; I find it interesting that there's only four Pokémon I could see with more than one major alternate model -- Frillish, Jellicent, Meowstic and Wishiwashi. You could have inferred it from the news already, but I think this points towards Pokémon with multiple forms being more unlikely. Unown especially I don't think we're ever gonna see again outside of a remake of GSC or DPPt.

There's other Pokémon in there with gender differences of course; but mostly minor ones like Combee and Steelix that could easily be edited from the other model. The most major one outside of the four I listed is Hippowdon and Hippopotas but that's just a palette swap in the same vein as shinies.

EDIT: This doesn't include Alolan Forms; the Vulpix, Diglett and of course Pikachu lines are still in the game. Frankly though, I'm not confident Alolan Forms will return even if their Kantonian counterparts do. And of course, this count also doesn't include Megas.
 
Going through the list of confirmed Pokémon so far; I find it interesting that there's only four Pokémon I could see with more than one major alternate model -- Frillish, Jellicent, Meowstic and Wishiwashi. You could have inferred it from the news already, but I think this points towards Pokémon with multiple forms being more unlikely. Unown especially I don't think we're ever gonna see again outside of a remake of GSC or DPPt.
I was pointing earlier in the discord, that since the wild area offers a insane possibility of Pokemon variation (with at very least 5 different weathers capable of altering the local fauna, and a potentially huge total area to cover), assuming the real reasoning of the actual pokedex cut was the lack of time to produce high enough quality models in time, the Pokemon most likely to be cut would be the ones with a lot of model intensity due to forms or variations (so, rip Vivillion, Sawsbusk, etc) toghether with Legendaryes, Mythicals, Ultrabeasts, and starters except gen 1 ones (since we already seen Charizard).

That'd actually still leave open a pretty big Pokedex honestly.
 

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That sounds like standard game dev practice.

Stuff like this does raise an eyebrow though: Or the implementation of Cute Charm in gen 4. And many more such examples.
it absolutely is not and I've worked in the game industry for 7 years

Well, it's the same company that required Iwata's divine assistance to finish Gold and Silver. One wonders what on Earth they programmed that they ran out of space.
game freak is incompetent, more news at 11
 
That hilarious Max Raid hypothetical tale up there makes me think to always, always be prepared of anything, like I do GO. Normally in GO I'd be internally laughing when I see people who has no idea what to really bring (unless shortmanning in which case, "This is Gonna Suck"). Then again, not everyone are ready and maybe there are just some little kids who wants an awesome Tyranitar, so I'd be going down just to help them provided I have a good hard-counter (Anything Fighting that's able to take hits should do, or even resisters; (If it exists there,) I'd be bringing a Superpower Malamar), or if I know a good way to cripple a mon, support set to help the raiders (like veil Alo-tails against Hydre).
... I think I'll try breeding to get a Kanto-tails, although IIRC absolute capability/direct comparison-wise it is outclassed by Alolan version (it can't even have Encore, lower speed, can't offer anything Alolan's Aurora Veil can, so I'm unsure what it is for... maybe Sun to screw with Water bosses).
The three red clouds above the dynamaxed Pokémon supposedly represent the three turns that this new mechanic lasts.
Imagine if Game Freak didn't just add one superfluous extra model for every Pokémon, but three.

One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with one red cloud above its head.
One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with two red clouds above its head.
One dynamaxed model (for each Pokémon) with three red clouds above its head.
This is exactly my thought too when I saw the thumbnail there. I... just don't understand.:psycry:
Anyway, this is a good context on the problem, and one I skipped too in the original video:
This... is some glaring, awfully awkward inefficiency. I seriously wonder... no, I'm sure it should've occurred to them to just make those assets separate and be much more efficient, but they just can't for one reason we might not know.
On another note, I hope I'm wrong on this too, but the weather effect isn't charming either, being just animated overlay on the screen as opposed to those in 3DS in battle (I certainly remember falling hails are done well, I am Lanakilan hermit). I kinda understand this kind of screen overlay overworld (as done in Lanakila's snowstorm overworld), but not in battle. Unless I forgot Sandstorm in battle is done this way too as I rarely use Sandstorm.
I fear that GF really had serious schedule trainwreck in its development, this makes GO's Niantic look like elite professionals.
 
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Hey there, as I said before, I was checking the list of Pokémon that haven't been printed since Ultra Prism. My reasoning behind this was that, since they want to make people "forget" about some Pokémon, the best way to do it would be to avoid having these Pokémon having a chance of winning the World Title.

Below is the list of Pokémon who haven't been printed in the West. A few of them have been confirmed in the game (Like Steene) but those have been printed in Japan in the latest collections so I'd like to share this with you.

What do ya'll think of the list?

#Pokémon
63Abra
64Kadabra
65Alakazam
90Shellder
91Cloyster
161Sentret
162Furret
163Hoothoot
164Noctowl
165Ledyba
166Ledian
190Aipom
191Sunkern
192Sunflora
211Qwilfish
216Teddiursa
217Ursaring
220Swinub
221Piloswine
223Remoraid
224Octillery
251Celebi
263Zigzagoon
264Linoone
276Taillow
277Swellow
285Shroomish
286Breloom
296Makuhita
297Hariyama
299Nosepass
322Numel
323Camerupt
327Spinda
336Seviper
339Barboach
340Whiscash
341Corphish
342Crawdaunt
345Lileep
346Cradily
347Anorith
348Armaldo
351Castform
355Duskull
356Dusclops
358Chimecho
361Snorunt
362Glalie
363Spheal
364Sealeo
365Walrein
369Relicanth
396Starly
397Staravia
398Staraptor
399Bidoof
400Bibarel
401Kricketot
402Kricketune
412Burmy
413Wormadam
414Mothim
422Shellos
423Gastrodon
424Ambipom
433Chingling
456Finneon
457Lumineon
473Mamoswine
476Probopass
477Dusknoir
478Froslass
486Regigigas
495Snivy
496Servine
497Serperior
498Tepig
499Pignite
500Emboar
501Oshawott
502Dewott
503Samurott
504Patrat
505Watchog
506Lillipup
507Herdier
508Stoutland
509Purrloin
510Liepard
511Pansage
512Simisage
513Pansear
514Simisear
515Panpour
516Simipour
517Munna
518Musharna
519Pidove
520Tranquill
521Unfezant
524Roggenrola
525Boldore
526Gigalith
529Drilbur
530Excadrill
531Audino
532Timburr
533Gurdurr
534Conkeldurr
535Tympole
536Palpitoad
537Seismitoad
538Throh
539Sawk
540Sewaddle
541Swadloon
542Leavanny
543Venipede
544Whirlipede
545Scolipede
548Petilil
549Lilligant
550Basculin
556Maractus
557Dwebble
558Crustle
559Scraggy
560Scrafty
564Tirtouga
565Carracosta
566Archen
567Archeops
568Trubbish
569Garbodor
572Minccino
573Ciccino
574Gothita
575Gothorita
576Gothitelle
577Solosis
578Duosion
579Reuniclus
580Ducklett
581Swanna
582Vanillite
583Vanillish
584Vanilluxe
585Deerling
586Sawsbuck
588Karrablast
589Escavalier
592Frillish
593Jellicent
594Alomomola
599Klink
600Klang
601Klinklang
602Tynamo
603Eelektrik
604Eelektross
605Elgyem
606Beheeyem
610Axew
611Fraxure
612Haxorus
615Cryogonal
616Shelmet
617Accelgor
619Mienfoo
620Mienshao
622Golett
623Golurk
626Bouffalant
627Rufflet
628Braviary
633Deino
634Zweilous
636Larvesta
637Volcarona
647Keldeo
650Chespin
651Quilladin
652Chesnaught
661Fletchling
662Fletchinder
663Talonflame
684Swirlix
685Slurpuff
708Phantump
709Trevenant
710Pumpkaboo
711Gourgeist
749Mudbray
750Mudsdale
753Fomantis
754Lurantis
759Stufful
760Bewear
761Bounsweet
762Steenee
763Tsareena
764Comfey
767Wimpod
768Golisopod
775Komala
777Togedemaru
 
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Hey there, as I said before, I was checking the list of Pokémon that haven't been printed since Ultra Prism. My reasoning behind this was that, since they want to make people "forget" about some Pokémon, the best way to do it would be to avoid having these Pokémon having a chance of winning the World Title.

Below is the list of Pokémon who haven't been printed in the West. A few of them have been confirmed in the game (Like Steene) but those have been printed in Japan in the latest collections so I'd like to share this with you.

What do ya'll think of the list?

#Pokémon
63Abra
64Kadabra
65Alakazam
90Shellder
91Cloyster
161Sentret
162Furret
163Hoothoot
164Noctowl
165Ledyba
166Ledian
190Aipom
191Sunkern
192Sunflora
211Qwilfish
216Teddiursa
217Ursaring
220Swinub
221Piloswine
223Remoraid
224Octillery
251Celebi
263Zigzagoon
264Linoone
276Taillow
277Swellow
285Shroomish
286Breloom
296Makuhita
297Hariyama
299Nosepass
322Numel
323Camerupt
327Spinda
336Seviper
339Barboach
340Whiscash
341Corphish
342Crawdaunt
345Lileep
346Cradily
347Anorith
348Armaldo
351Castform
355Duskull
356Dusclops
358Chimecho
361Snorunt
362Glalie
363Spheal
364Sealeo
365Walrein
369Relicanth
396Starly
397Staravia
398Staraptor
399Bidoof
400Bibarel
401Kricketot
402Kricketune
412Burmy
413Wormadam
414Mothim
422Shellos
423Gastrodon
424Ambipom
433Chingling
456Finneon
457Lumineon
473Mamoswine
476Probopass
477Dusknoir
478Froslass
486Regigigas
495Snivy
496Servine
497Serperior
498Tepig
499Pignite
500Emboar
501Oshawott
502Dewott
503Samurott
504Patrat
505Watchog
506Lillipup
507Herdier
508Stoutland
509Purrloin
510Liepard
511Pansage
512Simisage
513Pansear
514Simisear
515Panpour
516Simipour
517Munna
518Musharna
519Pidove
520Tranquill
521Unfezant
524Roggenrola
525Boldore
526Gigalith
529Drilbur
530Excadrill
531Audino
532Timburr
533Gurdurr
534Conkeldurr
535Tympole
536Palpitoad
537Seismitoad
538Throh
539Sawk
540Sewaddle
541Swadloon
542Leavanny
543Venipede
544Whirlipede
545Scolipede
548Petilil
549Lilligant
550Basculin
556Maractus
557Dwebble
558Crustle
559Scraggy
560Scrafty
564Tirtouga
565Carracosta
566Archen
567Archeops
568Trubbish
569Garbodor
572Minccino
573Ciccino
574Gothita
575Gothorita
576Gothitelle
577Solosis
578Duosion
579Reuniclus
580Ducklett
581Swanna
582Vanillite
583Vanillish
584Vanilluxe
585Deerling
586Sawsbuck
588Karrablast
589Escavalier
592Frillish
593Jellicent
594Alomomola
599Klink
600Klang
601Klinklang
602Tynamo
603Eelektrik
604Eelektross
605Elgyem
606Beheeyem
610Axew
611Fraxure
612Haxorus
615Cryogonal
616Shelmet
617Accelgor
619Mienfoo
620Mienshao
622Golett
623Golurk
626Bouffalant
627Rufflet
628Braviary
633Deino
634Zweilous
636Larvesta
637Volcarona
647Keldeo
650Chespin
651Quilladin
652Chesnaught
661Fletchling
662Fletchinder
663Talonflame
684Swirlix
685Slurpuff
708Phantump
709Trevenant
710Pumpkaboo
711Gourgeist
749Mudbray
750Mudsdale
753Fomantis
754Lurantis
759Stufful
760Bewear
761Bounsweet
762Steenee
763Tsareena
764Comfey
767Wimpod
768Golisopod
775Komala
777Togedemaru
If your theory is true, then I guess that Generation V Pokémon are taking a break and Masuda remembers the hate Black and White received.


EDIT: Kadabra cards have been retired for legal reasons. Abra and Alakazam got shafted in the process.
 
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Hey there, as I said before, I was checking the list of Pokémon that haven't been printed since Ultra Prism. My reasoning behind this was that, since they want to make people "forget" about some Pokémon, the best way to do it would be to avoid having these Pokémon having a chance of winning the World Title.

Below is the list of Pokémon who haven't been printed in the West. A few of them have been confirmed in the game (Like Steene) but those have been printed in Japan in the latest collections so I'd like to share this with you.

What do ya'll think of the list?

#Pokémon
63Abra
64Kadabra
65Alakazam
90Shellder
91Cloyster
161Sentret
162Furret
163Hoothoot
164Noctowl
165Ledyba
166Ledian
190Aipom
191Sunkern
192Sunflora
211Qwilfish
216Teddiursa
217Ursaring
220Swinub
221Piloswine
223Remoraid
224Octillery
251Celebi
263Zigzagoon
264Linoone
276Taillow
277Swellow
285Shroomish
286Breloom
296Makuhita
297Hariyama
299Nosepass
322Numel
323Camerupt
327Spinda
336Seviper
339Barboach
340Whiscash
341Corphish
342Crawdaunt
345Lileep
346Cradily
347Anorith
348Armaldo
351Castform
355Duskull
356Dusclops
358Chimecho
361Snorunt
362Glalie
363Spheal
364Sealeo
365Walrein
369Relicanth
396Starly
397Staravia
398Staraptor
399Bidoof
400Bibarel
401Kricketot
402Kricketune
412Burmy
413Wormadam
414Mothim
422Shellos
423Gastrodon
424Ambipom
433Chingling
456Finneon
457Lumineon
473Mamoswine
476Probopass
477Dusknoir
478Froslass
486Regigigas
495Snivy
496Servine
497Serperior
498Tepig
499Pignite
500Emboar
501Oshawott
502Dewott
503Samurott
504Patrat
505Watchog
506Lillipup
507Herdier
508Stoutland
509Purrloin
510Liepard
511Pansage
512Simisage
513Pansear
514Simisear
515Panpour
516Simipour
517Munna
518Musharna
519Pidove
520Tranquill
521Unfezant
524Roggenrola
525Boldore
526Gigalith
529Drilbur
530Excadrill
531Audino
532Timburr
533Gurdurr
534Conkeldurr
535Tympole
536Palpitoad
537Seismitoad
538Throh
539Sawk
540Sewaddle
541Swadloon
542Leavanny
543Venipede
544Whirlipede
545Scolipede
548Petilil
549Lilligant
550Basculin
556Maractus
557Dwebble
558Crustle
559Scraggy
560Scrafty
564Tirtouga
565Carracosta
566Archen
567Archeops
568Trubbish
569Garbodor
572Minccino
573Ciccino
574Gothita
575Gothorita
576Gothitelle
577Solosis
578Duosion
579Reuniclus
580Ducklett
581Swanna
582Vanillite
583Vanillish
584Vanilluxe
585Deerling
586Sawsbuck
588Karrablast
589Escavalier
592Frillish
593Jellicent
594Alomomola
599Klink
600Klang
601Klinklang
602Tynamo
603Eelektrik
604Eelektross
605Elgyem
606Beheeyem
610Axew
611Fraxure
612Haxorus
615Cryogonal
616Shelmet
617Accelgor
619Mienfoo
620Mienshao
622Golett
623Golurk
626Bouffalant
627Rufflet
628Braviary
633Deino
634Zweilous
636Larvesta
637Volcarona
647Keldeo
650Chespin
651Quilladin
652Chesnaught
661Fletchling
662Fletchinder
663Talonflame
684Swirlix
685Slurpuff
708Phantump
709Trevenant
710Pumpkaboo
711Gourgeist
749Mudbray
750Mudsdale
753Fomantis
754Lurantis
759Stufful
760Bewear
761Bounsweet
762Steenee
763Tsareena
764Comfey
767Wimpod
768Golisopod
775Komala
777Togedemaru
Pretty irrelevant list, Kadabra for instance hasn't been printed since 2003. And it's not like they can't go and print some or most of these cards in future sets as well
 
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Hey there, as I said before, I was checking the list of Pokémon that haven't been printed since Ultra Prism. My reasoning behind this was that, since they want to make people "forget" about some Pokémon, the best way to do it would be to avoid having these Pokémon having a chance of winning the World Title.

Below is the list of Pokémon who haven't been printed in the West. A few of them have been confirmed in the game (Like Steene) but those have been printed in Japan in the latest collections so I'd like to share this with you.

What do ya'll think of the list?

#Pokémon
63Abra
64Kadabra
65Alakazam
90Shellder
91Cloyster
161Sentret
162Furret
163Hoothoot
164Noctowl
165Ledyba
166Ledian
190Aipom
191Sunkern
192Sunflora
211Qwilfish
216Teddiursa
217Ursaring
220Swinub
221Piloswine
223Remoraid
224Octillery
251Celebi
263Zigzagoon
264Linoone
276Taillow
277Swellow
285Shroomish
286Breloom
296Makuhita
297Hariyama
299Nosepass
322Numel
323Camerupt
327Spinda
336Seviper
339Barboach
340Whiscash
341Corphish
342Crawdaunt
345Lileep
346Cradily
347Anorith
348Armaldo
351Castform
355Duskull
356Dusclops
358Chimecho
361Snorunt
362Glalie
363Spheal
364Sealeo
365Walrein
369Relicanth
396Starly
397Staravia
398Staraptor
399Bidoof
400Bibarel
401Kricketot
402Kricketune
412Burmy
413Wormadam
414Mothim
422Shellos
423Gastrodon
424Ambipom
433Chingling
456Finneon
457Lumineon
473Mamoswine
476Probopass
477Dusknoir
478Froslass
486Regigigas
495Snivy
496Servine
497Serperior
498Tepig
499Pignite
500Emboar
501Oshawott
502Dewott
503Samurott
504Patrat
505Watchog
506Lillipup
507Herdier
508Stoutland
509Purrloin
510Liepard
511Pansage
512Simisage
513Pansear
514Simisear
515Panpour
516Simipour
517Munna
518Musharna
519Pidove
520Tranquill
521Unfezant
524Roggenrola
525Boldore
526Gigalith
529Drilbur
530Excadrill
531Audino
532Timburr
533Gurdurr
534Conkeldurr
535Tympole
536Palpitoad
537Seismitoad
538Throh
539Sawk
540Sewaddle
541Swadloon
542Leavanny
543Venipede
544Whirlipede
545Scolipede
548Petilil
549Lilligant
550Basculin
556Maractus
557Dwebble
558Crustle
559Scraggy
560Scrafty
564Tirtouga
565Carracosta
566Archen
567Archeops
568Trubbish
569Garbodor
572Minccino
573Ciccino
574Gothita
575Gothorita
576Gothitelle
577Solosis
578Duosion
579Reuniclus
580Ducklett
581Swanna
582Vanillite
583Vanillish
584Vanilluxe
585Deerling
586Sawsbuck
588Karrablast
589Escavalier
592Frillish
593Jellicent
594Alomomola
599Klink
600Klang
601Klinklang
602Tynamo
603Eelektrik
604Eelektross
605Elgyem
606Beheeyem
610Axew
611Fraxure
612Haxorus
615Cryogonal
616Shelmet
617Accelgor
619Mienfoo
620Mienshao
622Golett
623Golurk
626Bouffalant
627Rufflet
628Braviary
633Deino
634Zweilous
636Larvesta
637Volcarona
647Keldeo
650Chespin
651Quilladin
652Chesnaught
661Fletchling
662Fletchinder
663Talonflame
684Swirlix
685Slurpuff
708Phantump
709Trevenant
710Pumpkaboo
711Gourgeist
749Mudbray
750Mudsdale
753Fomantis
754Lurantis
759Stufful
760Bewear
761Bounsweet
762Steenee
763Tsareena
764Comfey
767Wimpod
768Golisopod
775Komala
777Togedemaru
The Cincinno line, Noctowl line, Braviary line, Sawk, Dusknoir line, Mudsdale line, Seismitoad line, Vanilluxe line, Glalie line, and Golisopod line are all confirmed for SwSh, according to Serebii.

I think what really determines popularity would be a mix of profitable merchandise, online battle usage, cult following (fan art and such), etc.. Till someone hacks the full Galarian Pokedex (or GF publishes it) we're gonna be in the dark.
 
Through an interview on Famitsu, Masuda has stated that there is currently "no decision" on whether or not to add more Pokemon in future patches. Full article here (originally sourced from Serebii).

Imo sounds like a deflect to me, IE the decision to not add them is all but confirmed, but saying otherwise would just fan the flames.
It can be interpreted other way that they are considering it too, though, given the heavy backlash. GF might have made the heavy decision to that and be ready, but Nintendo had to take the brunt too that their branch's Twitter had to remove certain tweet. Some others seem to also raise optimism on this matter. This said, I suppose I've had enough of this debacle for a while, I'll keep this optimism and try to avoid the topic.

I'll think what mon (among confirmed ones) I can breed later for Raids, I'm interested in this. Maybe 9tails first, then trying to see if Flygon can be of good use. And Milotic too.
 
What can we safely assume is excluded?

Unown seems obvious. It has a lot of different forms, seems to be one of the recurring legacy problems that GF doesn't know what to do with, has no competitive use whatsoever, and has only appeared once in the last 10 years (in ORAS).

Deerling and Sawsbuck. Lots of models, little competitive value, and they exist to show off a seasonal mechanic that has never reappeared since.

Furfrou and Vivillon. They probably don't wanna deal with the haircuts/patterns and, again, they have no real competitive value.

Any Pikachu except for the base one. Cap Pikachus have no reason to exist without Z moves and are a lot of models to animate for something nobody uses.

Ash-Greninja. This has been disallowed in basically every tournament they've ever done for some reason, and feels superfluous without the context of the anime.

Any Totem Pokemon. Why would they bother with these?

Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza. Everyone is sick of these guys in the 2 ubers VGC formats and their signature abilities don't play too well with one of Dynamax's major features being weather setting. They're also the poster children for Mega Evolution's power creep and we know that mechanic is gone -- these would feel half complete without their ORAS forms.

Thundurus, Tornadus and Landorus. Have been omnipresent since gen 5 in competitive, Lando-T is the archetypal example of what they would want to remove for game balance reasons, they all have two forms with complicated models, and they're not particularly popular outside of being powerful.

Most Mythicals. Mew is confirmed and I can MAYBE see Celebi making the cut, but I'd be surprised if there were any others. Arceus, Deoxys and the gen 5 mythicals especially are graphical complexity creep. Darkrai also has the existence of Dark Void going against it, which was a massive legacy problem in VGC before gen 7 and is now just an annoyance when Metronome rolls it. Diancie is irrelevant without its mega. Hoopa's form change mechanics are just a mess.

Every single legendary from Alola. The Ultra Beasts weren't well received and would make little sense outside the context of Ultra Wormholes. The Tapus are tied to Alola and Z-crystals, are canonically unique species, and their whole gimmick is overshadowed by Dynamax moves which lay terrain. The light trio has a lot of Z-crystal baggage (Necrozma especially is basically confirmed not in by the exclusion of Z-moves) and are overdue for some time away from the spotlight.

Tbh the only legendaries other than gen 1/2 that I can see making it in are the Lati twins, just because they're so popular.
 
I've been thinking about what I said yesterday, about how GF probably made models for dynamax intead of gradually increasing the size of the original model...

Do shiny pokemon have their own models on top of their standard? I ask because doing quick math, just base models would mean 1600 models with another 800 for the not yet confirmed gigantamaxing that the 4chan user also leaked. Throw in sjinies, and in theory, thats over 4800 models.
 
I've been thinking about what I said yesterday, about how GF probably made models for dynamax intead of gradually increasing the size of the original model...

Do shiny pokemon have their own models on top of their standard? I ask because doing quick math, just base models would mean 1600 models with another 800 for the not yet confirmed gigantamaxing that the 4chan user also leaked. Throw in sjinies, and in theory, thats over 4800 models.
A model is just a group of points in space and the triangles they represent. They don't have a "color". That's what textures are for.
You can use the same model for regular and shiny forms. Just use different textures or colors to fill those triangles.
Whether Game Freak did this or not, lol.
 
A model is just a group of points in space and the triangles they represent. They don't have a "color". That's what textures are for.
You can use the same model for regular and shiny forms. Just use different textures or colors to fill those triangles.
Whether Game Freak did this or not, lol.
I'm fairly certain shines use separate models, because forgetting to delete them is how people got info out of the SM demo when those games came out.

Until SwSh. The seasonal mechanic is back so I can see Sawsbuck appearing in the Wild Area.
Ooh, I didn't know that.
 
It can be interpreted other way that they are considering it too, though, given the heavy backlash. GF might have made the heavy decision to that and be ready, but Nintendo had to take the brunt too that their branch's Twitter had to remove certain tweet. Some others seem to also raise optimism on this matter. This said, I suppose I've had enough of this debacle for a while, I'll keep this optimism and try to avoid the topic.

I'll think what mon (among confirmed ones) I can breed later for Raids, I'm interested in this. Maybe 9tails first, then trying to see if Flygon can be of good use. And Milotic too.
Whether you're annoyed at this feature or not. People need to seriously understand that, if not this gen, then by soon Pokemon will no longer be able to work on every single Pokemon in the upcoming games. The exact problem with the Pokemon model is that the vast majority of it is by adding something new and interesting to catch, but if you seriously expect them to work on getting over 1000 Pokemon in without making some cuts you're going to get disappointed.

I dont know what is going to happen, but this is a necessity for the franchise to continue at some point. People should just accept this as a sad necessity imo and move on. This is their first time doing this so they'll likely be ultra conservative as to what mons they remove.

I personally am interested in just how many Pokemon will be in the Galar region. It's also important to note that this game and LGPE take a LOT from Pokemon Go, which means they will likely add a lot of Europe exclusive mons from one point or another.
 

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