But can't Regigigas simply Protect to stall all 5 of those turns?You've just nerfed Regigigas even more. Congratulations...
But can't Regigigas simply Protect to stall all 5 of those turns?You've just nerfed Regigigas even more. Congratulations...
Regigigas doesn't learn Protect. :[But can't Regigigas simply Protect to stall all 5 of those turns?
Protect protects from Toxic, right?gothitelle + toxic + protect + ??? = profit
I can see that becoming a thing
{
name: "Protect: The Metagame",
section: 'Other Metagames',
ruleset: ['Pokemon', 'Standard', 'Team Preview', 'Swagger Clause', 'Baton Pass Clause'],
banlist: ['Uber', 'Soul Dew', 'Gengarite', 'Kangaskhanite', 'Lucarionite', 'Mawilite'],
onModifyMove: function (move) {
if (move.id === 'protect' || move.id === 'detect') {
move.onPrepareHit = {};
move.onHit = {};
}
}
},
Oh look, perish/trap spamConfide/Play Nice ignore Protect, lowering Attack or Special Attack.
Perish Song ignores Protect, and Soundproof is in fact the only protection at all.
Pressure only affects moves that target the Pressure user. So Pressure won't reduce the PP of the foe's Protect at all, but it does let you quickly PP stall their attacks with your own Protect.Dusclops @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD or something
Bold/Calm Nature or whatever (probably Bold)
- Protect /
- Curse
- Pain Split
- Imprison
I think Dusclops has some tools that could make it function quite nicely in this meta: Pressure to wear down the opponent's Protect turns, Curse to deal damage and go through Protect, Imprison to stop Protect, and Pain Split for recovery. Spiritomb can run the same set, but Dusclops is probably better or something. Dies to Taunt and Mega Pinsir, though.
Speaking of Mega Pinsir, sets that run only Feint and Earthquake for coverage are liable to get rekt by Bronzong:
+6 252+ Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Feint vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bronzong: 103-122 (30.4 - 36%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery (Rest user? Or better yet, just switch it in on a Pinsir that's still boosting)
0 SpA Bronzong Future Sight vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Pinsir: 117-138 (43.1 - 50.9%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO
Zapdos can wall it too, but all it can do back (without outprediction) is phaze it out. Same with Skarmory, which can at least set hazards. Bronzong is cooler than all of these mons, though, so nyah. Skarmory's probably good as a hazard layer + phazer + toxic absorber though.
Aw, seriously?Pressure only affects moves that target the Pressure user. So Pressure won't reduce the PP of the foe's Protect at all, but it does let you quickly PP stall their attacks with your own Protect.
Curse Goes through Protect.Approved by Eevee General
This format is exactly like standard OU, with a slight difference in mechanics - the moves Protect and Detect do not fail on consecutive uses. All the other stuff like Endure, Spiky Shield, King's Shield etc still have a chance of failing on consecutive uses.
if you know what i mean
What can you expect to see from this metagame?
- Protect stall will be everwhere!
- Substitute will be everywhere!
- Feint might become a thing?? (oh hi Mega Pinsir, didn't see you there!)
- Phazing will become more popular, since Roar / Whirlwind go straight through Protect / Detect
- more ?????
Banlist:
- OU Banlist
- that's it
- :]
Also since salamencizer cannot seem to remember, our savior urkerab has made this playable on rom.Curse Goes through Protect.
Ban Toxic IMO
Oh yeah. How can I forget that ? ;-;Also since salamencizer cannot seem to remember, our savior urkerab has made this playable on rom.
Step one: Dexsearch Imprison.Oh god stall! What Pokemon learns imprison protect and toxic?
Cause practically everything bar what could actually use protect/toxic learns it ;).Step one: Dexsearch Imprison.
Step two: Done.