Check: Lycanroc and Regirock
Counter: Type:Null and Eelektross
Loving the new format, conditions make it much more challenging
Counter: Type:Null and Eelektross
Loving the new format, conditions make it much more challenging
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Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
Project PU Victim of the Week! Finished
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Winners
Checks
Checks
| User | Pokemon | Set |
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gum | 
| Lycanium Lycanroc (9 votes) |
| Bulky Regirock (5 votes) |
Counters
| User | Pokemon | Set |
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| SpDef Tank Type:Null (10 votes) | |
| Bulky Pivot Lanturn (7 votes) |
Well done with these submissions guys and girls. From experience, trying to take down Pom Pom when it's at +2 in SpAtk and SpDef is not an easy thing to do unless you have a powerful and maybe faster physical wallbreaker to do so. This will help out others for sure. Keep these posts coming! =)
Honorable mentions: None (nothing else really stands up to it; trust me I looked)
Checks
Lycanroc - 9
Regirock - 5
Kabutops - 3
Primeape - 2
Rotom-Frost - 2
Golem - 1
Carracosta - 0
Counters
Type:Null - 10
Lanturn - 7
Eelektross - 5
Lycanroc - 9
Regirock - 5
Kabutops - 3
Primeape - 2
Rotom-Frost - 2
Golem - 1
Carracosta - 0
Counters
Type:Null - 10
Lanturn - 7
Eelektross - 5
gum - 4
ChrystalFalchion - 2
j0gurt - 2
jonago - 2
tlenit1 - 2
Toy Time King - 2
KellyKafka - 1
royesk - 1
Sickist - 1
Sir Pin - 1
ChrystalFalchion - 2
j0gurt - 2
jonago - 2
tlenit1 - 2
Toy Time King - 2
KellyKafka - 1
royesk - 1
Sickist - 1
Sir Pin - 1
Week 4
Alright, the next victim to kill dead is...............
Crabominable @ Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
IVs: 0 Spe
Brave Nature
- Ice Hammer
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Power-Up Punch / Earthquake / Thunder Punch
Condition: Trick Room is active
Voting begins later this week!
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Gurdurr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 212 Def
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off
Gurdurr is a good check against Crabominable. Crab is able to outspeed you under TR and has a 55.9% chance to 2hko you with Ice Hammer (CC does the same damage but -1def means you die to drain punch) and you just drain punch. Afterwards, you can recover most of the damage it's dealt to you and just attack again or Mach Punch (high rolls of Drain + high Mach rolls kills)
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Sableye @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Night Shade
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
Because of the insane difficulty of countering this thing straight up, a great check is Sableye. With free switch you can get a priority burn off on Crabominable and then proceed to stall out trick room with recover while it dies to life orb and burn damage. Sableye also has the added benefit of being a great blanket check to many other physical attackers besides Crabominable.
Calc:
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist burned Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 122-144 (40.2 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Jellicent @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Taunt
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
Jellicent is a solid check to Crabominable in Trick Room, as it isn't 2HKOed by any move bar Thunder Punch and can stall out Trick Room turns with Recover or just go for a burn with Will-O-Wisp.
Calcs:
252+ Atk Life Orb Crabominable Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 224+ Def Jellicent: 147-173 (36.3 - 42.8%) -- 96.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist burned Crabominable Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 224+ Def Jellicent: 133-156 (32.9 - 38.6%) -- 3.5% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Thunder Punch vs. 252 HP / 224+ Def Jellicent: 265-312 (65.5 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
reserving cryogonal granbull
Granbull @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave
- Play Rough
- Earthquake
Good boi is a check. It can't counter because Crab's most relevant move, Ice Hammer, 2HKOs it even after a drop from Intimidate, but it can take one hit and proceed to OHKO (after Life Orb recoil) with Play Rough.
Granbull @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 208 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave
- Play Rough
- Earthquake
Good boi is a check. It can't counter because Crab's most relevant move, Ice Hammer, 2HKOs it even after a drop from Intimidate, but it can take one hit and proceed to OHKO (after Life Orb recoil) with Play Rough.
252+ Atk Granbull Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Crabominable: 378-446 (94.9 - 112%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO (guaranteed OHKO after Life Orb recoil)
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. 208 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 242-285 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
-1 252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. 208 HP / 0 Def Granbull: 242-285 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Musharna @ Kee Berry
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Barrier
- Calm Mind
- Stored Power
- Moonlight
What a funky set man...And so unviable with Skuntank being in the tier. But hey: A more or less counter to Crabominable (by definition it should be a check but tf do I know).
Not only do you underspeed under Trick Room, you can even tank two Ice Hammers due to the Kee Berry.
After that was eaten (and you switched Mush out again) you don't really switchin anymore because after the Hammer, Crab outspeeds under TR and does around 60% to Musharna. In that situation you want to bring in Musharna safely so you can setup healthy.
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Musharna: 227-269 (52.1 - 61.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. +1 248 HP / 252+ Def Musharna: 152-179 (34.9 - 41.1%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
So Crab has to hit the max role and THAN has to get a Scald burn to kill Musharna!
+1 8 SpA Musharna Stored Power (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Crabominable: 384-452 (96.4 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
One CM and the Kee Berry is needed to kill Crab reliably!
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. +1 248 HP / 252+ Def Musharna: 152-179 (34.9 - 41.1%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
So Crab has to hit the max role and THAN has to get a Scald burn to kill Musharna!
+1 8 SpA Musharna Stored Power (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Crabominable: 384-452 (96.4 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
One CM and the Kee Berry is needed to kill Crab reliably!
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JUST A QUICK UPDATE TO THE CONDITION, UNAWARE MONS ARE NOW AVAILABLE!
Hey so it turns out the bulky fighting resist doesn't even check Crab. So instead I'm posting the bulky fighting weak mon instead.
Regirock @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Slide
- Counter
- Toxic
252+ Atk Life Orb Crabominable Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 180+ Def Regirock: 257-304 (70.6 - 83.5%)
It lives a hit and kills Crabominable back with Counter. It can't switch in and it's super cheesy so it's only an emergency check.
haha get it because it uses counter haha
i spent 20 minutes of my life on this
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Slide
- Counter
- Toxic
252+ Atk Life Orb Crabominable Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 180+ Def Regirock: 257-304 (70.6 - 83.5%)
It lives a hit and kills Crabominable back with Counter. It can't switch in and it's super cheesy so it's only an emergency check.
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Volbeat (M) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Lunge
- Trick
- Roost
- Counter
Okay, lets imagine we hate this Crab a LOT. Trick allows you to cripple crab with burn thanks to flame orb even when we are under trick room. Counter is there to get KO over the crab. After losing life orb and being burned it can make max 37.1% (without that max 96.4%, so we still killing it) with stone edge. Roost and lunge is there to live FOR EVAH against crabby
Feel free to use it! Good luck!
Drampa @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Hyper Voice
- Roost
Drampa makes for a good check to this Crabominable set if Trick Room is active as it underspeeds it and OHKOes it with either Fire Blast or Z-Draco Meteor. I like this set more on Trick Room teams as it allows it to fully take advantage of its movepool. This is strictly a check, however, as it can't switch in.
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Hyper Voice
- Roost
Drampa makes for a good check to this Crabominable set if Trick Room is active as it underspeeds it and OHKOes it with either Fire Blast or Z-Draco Meteor. I like this set more on Trick Room teams as it allows it to fully take advantage of its movepool. This is strictly a check, however, as it can't switch in.
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Sash Kadabra as a check
Kadabra @ Focus Sash
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Counter
- Taunt
- Dazzling Gleam
Pretty straight forward, but Ditto and Kadabra will always find a niche in RKOing all forms of offense. While CS Ditto can't be used against Trick Room, Kadabra certainly still can be. Kadabra can take any hit from Crabominable thanks to that combination of Focus Sash and Magic Guard. In return, it's able to OHKO 252 HP Crabominable after SR with STAB Psychic. What's more, unlike some of the other checks listed above, Kadabra can actually shut down Crabominable's teammates from setting up Trick Room (or at the very least, burn their Mental Herb), making this an overall good answer to the playstyle (with the exception of Bonemerang Marowak or other users of multi-hit moves, which KO Kadabra through Sash). You might also see Guzzlord TR teams, which are also threatened by this Kadabra.
252 SpA Kadabra Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Crabominable: 386-456 (96.9 - 114.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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the set of quagsire is a good check for crabominable because the rocky helmet and life orb do residual damage and Recover makes quagsire not suffer 2HKO and does not affect the power-up-punch to upload the atk that makes quagsire a good Check Of crabominable
GANSO (Quagsire) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Protect
- Recover
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Crabominable Ice Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 227-269 (57.6 - 68.2%) --guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Crabominable Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 227-269 (57.6 - 68.2%) – guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Crabominable Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 126-149 (31.9 - 37.8%) -- 94.2% chance to 3HKO
Turtonator @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Pulse
- Flash Cannon
Ok, not as good gum's Drampa check but it can still get the job done.
Check. Since Trick Room is up and Turt will go "slower" than Crab, Turt gets the first hit and takes Crab down with a simple Fire Blast:
252+ SpA Turtonator Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Crabominable: 428-506 (107.5 - 127.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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The one counter that was submitted, jonago's Musharna, definitely works and is automatically given the 2 points. Grats to you for that submission given my horrible circumstance that I put you in with the 3 slashed moves.
So this time, just for 2 CHECKS!
Checks: gum's Drampa, Tap's Kadabra
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