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Quick Claw

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How reliable is the quick claw item? I used it on my crawdaunt for FANTASTIC results, got 3 kills with it, and he was still alive after before the foe sent out his 'Croak

I heard from Serebii in the 3rd gen section it only wroked 10% of the time. Is this still true, and if so, what other item should I give my 'Daunt instead?

It's Brave nature, 30 HP, 31 ATK, 24 DEF IVs. The rest arent so good. It has Crabhammer, Crunch, Brick Break, Swords Dance. I've completely spanked wiht him before, but my brother (and another one of my friends) is loading up on Crawduant counters so I can't spank anymore...

I occasionally use one of my other 10 pokemon to add some diversity, but as my favourite pokemon I try and incorporate him. I've even gotten other pokemon to switch to so that he can't get completely owned by grass, fight, or electric... I usually switch to Roserade and soak it all up.

Anyways, don't think I'm a noob becuase I don't use OU pokemon, belive me, I ahve a few, but I'm mostly a UU-BL player.
 
oh, so Quick Claw is hax then, huh... Is there a better item than it for a slow pokemon? my crawdaunt can take a few physical hits, but I don't even try to survive special hits... I need a good item that will aid in sweeping. Quick claw was like a dream come true, it worked 3/5 turns I used him, but if it's only 10% chance I need something better.
 
I am fairly sure in ADV quick claw had a 3/16 to work, so more like 18.75%. Not sure if this has changed in D/P though, maybe browse through the research thread?
 
I hate Quick Claw. I can't tell you how many times I should've won only to have an opponent get 3 activations in a row and kill stuff he had no business killing. :/
 
Quick Claw has a 20% chance to work. It had a 20% chance to work in ADV (or maybe it was 18.75%).
 
Before the days of smogon, natures, and IVs, I had a special sweeping brave lucario with a quick claw (LOL). Natrually, he got killed ALOT.
 
I hate the Quick Claw. It is singlehandedly the gayest hax item ever imo. Whether i'm in Netbattle, Wifi battles, the Battle Tower or PBR, this thing comes up at the worst time, whenever I don't want it to. Like yesterday, in PBR, I was in the Magma Colosseum, and it was my Latios (lost a bit of health from Surf) vs a Slowbro. I was going to murder it with Thunderbolt, but it gets Quick Claw, uses GIGA IMPACT, and gets a CRITICAL HIT, which kills Latios. I was so angry.

Also, against Mysterial's Groudon in Set 8 of the Master's Battle, he got Quick Claw and almost hit hard on my Salamence, but thankfully, his Stone Edge missed >.<

In short, I hate it, will never use it, and pity all who dare to use it. Okay i'm done ranting here.
 
Perhaps changing Swords Dance to another attack move and going with Choice Scarf? I'm just not sure if Crawdaunt is fast enough for good results, but...

Perhaps CB would be a better choice, really.
 
I knew that... How dumb do you think I am!?

Serebii said Adamant OR Naughty OR Brave. I picked the one with the best IVs. I'm not gonna waste 20+ hours breeding a pokemon if I jsut fight my friends. Brave is good enough for me.

Sooooo, maybe leftovers/shell bell is the way to go. I mean, it already gets OHKO with one dance, all I need is to survive the 2nd pkmn, and the 3rd, and so on. Thats where the Quick claw helped him out. I jsut pwned the new pokemon as they came out :D
 
Brave is the best nature for Crawdaunt hands down. If you're not using special attacks on Crawdaunt you should go for Kingler who is superior across the board except for Special Attack and a little HP.
 
Kingler's movepool is worse, and so is it's special defense. I like STAB'd crunch, personally. Thanks for the suggestion. Whats a good pokemon that can elarn Trick Room? It'd go great with my Quiet glaceon and my brave 'daunt
 
Why did you say "I would go with adamant, but why pass up 31 attack IVs" when it doesn't matter because both brave and adamant boost attack..? Anyway, bronzong is a good pokemon to use trick room.
 
Bronzong... got it. And, whats a good moveset/nature for one o' dems? I could always use steel or physich on my team. Most of my favourite guys are weak to fight so I've been getting fight coutners lately
 
Yeah, Dark STAB is nice, but Crawdaunt's Special Attack is his real selling point over Kingler. With a small EV investment, he can easily beat the shit out of some of the premier physical walls with Surf or Ice Beam (Tangrowth, Gliscor, Hippowdon, Donphan), which is something Kingler can't do. Ice Beam gives that sexy KO on the dragons too. =D

I'd use a special attack over Brick Break tbh... a SE Brick Break only does slightly more than a neutral Crabhammer and Water/Dark is only resisted by...um...Empoleon, Poliwrath, Breloom, Shiftry, Cacturne (<- Ice Beam!), Dialga, Toxicroak...maybe a few others, but the point is, every Pokemon on that list is faster and will OHKO the crab so why bother going for a Brick Break?

Empoleon and the Grass Types can nail you with a Grass Knot/Seed Bomb, Poliwrath, Breloom and Toxicroak OHKO with Fighting attacks, and Dialga...well...if your opponent is using Dialga and you're using Crawdaunt, then you may as well just forfiet.

The point is...Ice Beam>Brick Break. :)

Oh...and go Leftovers, if you've boosted up the HP and Defence somewhat.
 
you're sure? Ice beam is the better choice? Ok... I used ot have ice beam back in RuSa but I ditched it. I'll try it out. If I still dislike it, I won't save. oh, and my EV spread is probably gonna be like 4 HP 252 ATK 252 DEF. I'll check out how much sp. atk I should go for with a stat calc, maybe its worht it.

EDIT: checked the stat calc and he'd have up to 217 sp. attack. I'm not sure that warrants an ice beam. I think brick break is a better idea for better type coverage, (and the barrier breakage) and like you said, why would I stay out against Tcroak and Breloom etc. if they're faster and can kill me? And according to a damage calc, Brick Break would nearly always do much, much more, except to a dragon...

So, thanks Lee, I'll follow msot of your advice :D

Here's the end result:

Crawdaunt @ leftovers
Trait: Hyper Cutter
EVS: 6 HP, 252 ATK 252 DEF
Moves:
-Crabhammer (135)
-Crunch (120)
Brick Break (75)
Swords Dance (ATK + 2)

Now, with some trick room support, (and the 4 speed IVs LOL) I can sweep successfully. Thanks for yuor input people...
 
skiddle said:
Here's the end result:

Crawdaunt @ leftovers
Trait: Hyper Cutter
EVS: 6 HP, 252 ATK 252 DEF
Moves:
-Crabhammer (135)
-Crunch (120)
Brick Break (75)
Swords Dance (ATK + 2)

Now, with some trick room support, (and the 4 speed IVs LOL) I can sweep successfully. Thanks for yuor input people...
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I myself would go with this spread: 252 hp/ 4 def/ 252 attack

that way special blows get softened a bit, too.
 
I could have sworn, I thought this thread was about Quick Claw.

If you want to use Crawdaunt @ Brave, Trick Room him and I suggest ONLY trick room him.
If you want to breed Adamant Crawdaunt, put a Choice Scarf on him for gogog speed kills.
Crawdaunt egg moves Superpower, which is pretty saucy if you want to pull out that 3rd kill (or a hit and run w/ Choice item, hint hint).
Crawdaunt is going to be your sweeper and you don't get many turns under Trick Room before your opponent can speed over you with Thunderbolt or something similar; I'd go Choice Band all the way on the Brave Trick Roomer. You don't want to waste the turn setting up out of fear you'll be 2HKO'd by something more powerful, especially if you're going to switch Crawdaunt in.
 
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