Huh? Surf - story. Ice Beam - ship. Thunderbolt - New Mauville. Psychic - Victory Road. So no, you don't need GC.
To be honest, this is a problem for a lot of pokemon in generation 3, the majority need some TMs to be able to perform well. This is one of the reasons I nominated Numel/Camerupt for high because it's one of the few pokemon that don't.My only problem is that barring Recover, ALL of its usable movepool is tutor/TM only. Which is painful when you want to give Thunderbolt or Ice Beam to other stuff.
I would agree with you on this, but I am currently using flygon in my current Emerald playthrough and it is easily MVP. Moreso than Blaziken. Catch a Trapinch at level 20, throw EXP Share on it, and forget it exists. By the time you come to fight Tate/Liza, it will likely be a Flygon. Once you defeat Juan, you can go grab Dragon Claw. Right now, mine is Level 55, carrying Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, Earthquake, and Crunch, and goddamn if it isn't one of the most useful mons on my team right now.Just saying, I think that Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon should be Mid. It's quite debateable, but due to being terrible for the majority of the game, I feel it should be mid. First of, Trapinch comes with no physical moves, like at all. You pretty much have to teach it dig straight off. Rock Tomb is the only other move that could help, but that's 50 BP, 80 Acc and doesn't have STAB. You then have to raise it about 15 levels with 45/45/45 defenses and 10 speed. Basically it sucks. It then evolves to Vibrava and loses its base 100 attack, in exchange for usable speed. However you still have to raise it another 10 levels with dreadful defenses and not a lot of attackin presence. It's only when it gets to Flygon that it turns good. From there it is top tier once you teach it Earthquake. It also gets Fire Blast, Dragon Claw, Crunch and Fly. If only you weren't raising a useless pokemon for half the game...
Except Starmie does not learn Calm Mind.I don't think that Kadabra should be in top. It's not even as good as the Pokemon in the high tier to be quite honest. Psychic and Shock Wave are all you have for coverage, which simply isn't good enough. The demand for a psychic is also low in this generation, as there's no poison gym (and a general lack of poison-types compared to the previous two poison-heavy generations) and you are unlikely to evolve Abra before Brawley. The elemental punches are gone too. When up against the E4, it's a poor Pokemon to use against Sydney, Phoebe, and Steven (who has a lot of steel types).
I'd say Kadabra should go to Mid, knowing how useful it is as Abra, and how little necessity there is for a pure psychic-type.
Starmie does need a lot of unique TMs (and not so unique since you can have multiple Thunderbolts, Ice Beams and Psychics via the game corner) to work, but what we should keep in mind is that it doesn't just take TMs and 'do something' - it takes the good TMs and it solos the game with Calm Mind and extensive coverage. It may not be the best Pokemon for Phoebe, but it could use Calm Mind on Mightyena and then make quick work of the rest of Sydney's pokes - why not.
Should be Top/High, not sure where exactly.
I'm not disputing the fact it is incredible late game, and probably would be top if it was that good all the way through. Raising a useless pokemon 25 levels is what puts it down. If we're ranking the pokemon as a whole rather than just its final evolution, it's definitely mid (in my opinion.)I would agree with you on this, but I am currently using flygon in my current Emerald playthrough and it is easily MVP. Moreso than Blaziken. Catch a Trapinch at level 20, throw EXP Share on it, and forget it exists. By the time you come to fight Tate/Liza, it will likely be a Flygon. Once you defeat Juan, you can go grab Dragon Claw. Right now, mine is Level 55, carrying Dragon Claw, Fire Blast, Earthquake, and Crunch, and goddamn if it isn't one of the most useful mons on my team right now.
Errr... It has no need for Recover ingame, so that is hardly a con. You have healing items. I'd say mid, but only because it's so bad for so long. Ralts dies to pretty much any physical move. Even a Shroomish tackle does a fair bit. But Gardevoir does pretty much curbstomp half the game with CM/Psychic/Tbolt.Cons
-stats are mostly ass until Gardevoir
-slower than some stuff
-takes up a Tbolt TM that something else could maybe use, like Manectric or Magneton
@Lucchini, Kirlia gets Magical Leaf in FRLG, but not RSE.
Magical Leaf can only be move tutor'd in FRLG iirc.Also, Ralts attacking with Confusion is about as strong as Mudkip attacking with Water Gun and a whole lot stronger than Treecko's earlygame combat, so I think it's a little unfair to sandbag his performance. Ralts's BSP is indeed low, but it doesn't need its physical attack stat at all, for instance. I don't see why you wouldn't give Gardevoir Thunderbolt considering you get more than enough money in this game (and he's a good candidate for the free TM you get from Wattson), and if you get a Heart Scale before Kirlia evolves, you could even tutor it Magical Leaf to run out of PP much slower whilst you surf.
Responses are in bold.Vital Throw is a decreased priority move. Wastes time and you get hit. Brick Break (TM) is stronger and has normal priority. Does 5 power matter that much? And with his Speed does decreased priority matter ether? Also with Brick Break you'll enjoy Double Team much more.
Strength has 80 BP. Return (TM) has up to 102. That's quite a big difference. 22 power does matter much more than 5. It's a Good thing there's 2 TM27s.
That's what it means. Without TMs this guy is forced to use largely inferior moves. And if you have to rely on other pokemon to beat something that completely walls you, you're not high material at all, mr Makuhita! Struggle... just kidding but I can see how this alone can make him Mid Tier.
Mid is perfectly fine for him.
Vital Throw is a decreased priority move. Wastes time and you get hit. Brick Break (TM) is stronger and has normal priority.Edit: On site it says that Makuhita has TM Reliance but with Vital Throw and Strength means you only get walled by ghost. Your ony way past Ghost is Earthquake, but that's why you have other Pokemon. Also at above, It's level 24 not 26