Rain Team with an Offensive core and Niche Offense

My team is a rain team that i like, and have tested heavily, but does not seem to be performing well, I cannot identify any wrinkles that should be ironed out, but I am not the most experienced player, only starting in late BW2 OU, and i was hoping that someone experienced can provide some assistance. That being said, here is the team;


Politoed @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast

I had been wanting to try weather for a while before making this team, and I had been reading up on weather teams, and I knew that I would need politoed, so I started off with it, and I found after more reading that rain powered up water type moves, so I put on hydro pump. The EV's were simple, I wanted it to last longer and hit harder, and the specs came into play so my politoed could hit even harder. I noticed that Hydro Pump was inaccurate, and as such I put surf on as well, for a bit more reliability. I now had 2 moves, and after playing some more I decided that ice beam would be a good choice, and I added Focus Blast for additional coverage against Tyranitar and Lucario.

Tornadus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Atk
Hasty Nature
- Focus Blast
- Hurricane
- Taunt
- U-turn

After I added politoed, I wanted a bit of defense, and after lurking around a bit more, I decided on a powerful Hurricane spammer as well as defense, and Tornadus-T came to mind, as it was freed from Ubers in the generation shift. As I wanted it to play a bit of defense, the EV's were assigned to fit that role, the life orb came on because I knew that it's ability would completely negate the damage. Hurricane came on for the above reason, focus blast came on for coverage against stone edge users such as terrakion and tyranitar. I added Taunt to counter stat spammers, and U-turn to scout opponents and deal some damage as well as regain my own hp thanks to regenerator.

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Water Shuriken
- Bounce
- Return
- U-turn

I had been experimenting with Greninja during the generation shift, and immediately scarfed it. I used the scarf set without much success for about a month, then tried a different route, to take advantage of Protean more. I tried using him for hazards, but that did not fit in with my team. That's when I designed a special set without hazards or scarf, and I used that for a while. Then I began to hear about the prevalence of physical greninja, so I decided to try it, the first thing that came to mind was it's signature move, Water Shuriken, so I decided to experiment with a king's rock variant, I quickly moved to a Life orb variant, which I have only been using for a short time. Bounce was a move that I considered for coverage against rival grass types, like mega venusaur. I decided on return for a nice physical powerhouse move, and U-turn for added coverage against grass, dark and psychic types.

Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Belly Drum
- Return
- Play Rough

Azumarill was another threat that came to mind immediately upon constructing this team, as belly drum with aqua jet ravages anything that doesn't resist it. The EV's were laid out for bulky offense, and the sitrus berry helped to negate some of the belly drum damage. I opted for return over waterfall for a slightly more powerful move, and decided to use aqua jet to deal with fire and rock types. I added play rough for a powerful physical fairy STAB against rival salamence, garchomp and dragonite.

Kingdra @ Scope Lens
Ability: Sniper
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Focus Energy
- Scald
- Ice Beam

After the above 4 pokemon, I wanted a powerful dragon that functions well under rain, and I noticed the unbanning of drizzle and swift swim on the same team, I immediatly thought kingdra. I began to build kingdra and noticed that it can be made to score critical hits every time, so I abandoned swift swim and build a critdra set, and I have seen much success, it cannot outspeed much, but with a 227BP draco meteor from the crit, it hits harder than anything I have ever seen. Focus energy is in place to set up the critical hits, and scald as well as ice beam hit like a truck without lowering special attack.

Cloyster @ White Herb
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Rapid Spin
- Shell Smash

My last pokemon was a pokemon that i knew i wanted when i started this team. After a shell smash, cloyster wrecks house with Icicle Spear and rock blast. The white herb is here to keep his defenses up, and the EV's let him hit fast and hard. I also wanted to clear away enemy hazards, so rapid spin was an obvious choice, and shell smash is there to let cloyster hit hard.
 
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Specs Kyurem - B poops on your team. The only pokemon that might live a Fusion Bolt is Kingdra, but I doubt it. I understand this is a rain team, but you should really consider getting some resistance to Electric. Also, drop White Herb for Focus Sash, so your Cloyster won't get slaughtered in one hit.
 
Thank you for your feedback. I will put a focus sash on Cloyster, and I am thinking about Gastrodon for electric resistance, would you reccomend removing greninja in favor of gastrodon?
 
Also, use dragon pulse over Draco meteor. Kingdra can actually wall anything but a fairy, and it is good to keep it in. It would suck to lose SAtk I've that.
 
Also, use dragon pulse over Draco meteor. Kingdra can actually wall anything but a fairy, and it is good to keep it in. It would suck to lose SAtk I've that.
It's a permacrit kingdra, after a focus energy it reach a 100% chance of crit (thanks to scope lens). And since criting ignore the draco meteor's stats drop, he can stick with it and spam it like a b***h.
And since your kindra isn't swift swim he gonna need some sticky web/paralysis support in order to sweep.
You should consider flash cannon over ice beam because tornadus packs hurricane which already destroy grass pokemon.

For example klefki can be a good addition to your team with a back-up prankster rain dancer, T-Waver.

More overall about the team, its strange to see a rain team without any swift swim abuser (kindra is sniper), i'd suggest to pick a physical one (kabutops for exemple) as a late game cleaner (priority aquajet, setup sword dance) or if you want to stick with a shellsmasher, you can pick omastar.

The last thing about you team is the global electric weakness (5 out of 6 pokes), adding any ground type like gastrodon (mamoswine with stealth rock is intresting too) or somone packing an electric immune (Jolteon, Thundurus ...).

I didn't gave you any set about the aboves pokes because you first need to improve the typing balance of you team.

As a Old-Rain lover, i'll follow this thread and help/discuss with you as much as i can.
 
I am thinking of replacing Tornadus-T with standard Thundurus, and adding klefki instead of greninja. As well as removing cloyster in favor of kabutops. any thoughts?
 
I am thinking of replacing Tornadus-T with standard Thundurus, and adding klefki instead of greninja. As well as removing cloyster in favor of kabutops. any thoughts?
standard thundrus has prankster, as I am pretty sure you know, and he would probably be an excellent edition for a rance dance team over tornadus-t. being able to set up rance dance thunder would be excellent. Of course, be wary of the ice and rock type moves, both of which can be taken down by focus blast. Klefki is another nice prankster pokemon to use. klefki has many moves at it's disposal to use. Rain Dance is a given, but you can also use spikes, t-wave, swagger/foul play, torment, play rough, magic room, toxic, dual screens, and much much more. He's like a priority smeargle with less moves. So, If you want a more defensive pokemon, go with klefki. Otherwise, use thundrus. Seeing as Kabutops is RU, you should only use him if you can legitimately use him better than cloyster, which is tricky.
 
I agree with dyp1225, Klefki is so versatile that depending on your team needs, you can do one of the following:

Dual Screens

Klefki @ Light clay
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Reflect
- Light screen
- Spikes / Toxic / Thunder wave
- Foul Play


OR

Angry Soccer Judge (My personal favorite and set dubbed by me :pimp:

Klefki @ Red Card
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Recycle
- Thunder Wave
- Spikes
- Foul Play


If you need Klefki to assist with your teams viability then you can use Dual Screens. If you want him to be a pain in the donkey, then Angry Judge is fun as ell. (At least for you, not so much for your opponent getting force switched into spikes... LOL)
 
This is my current team build now, testing it to work out bugs, any thoughts? Is there any recovery options for klefki?

Politoed @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- Surf

Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SDef
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Return

Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Waterfall
- Rapid Spin
- Swords Dance

Kingdra @ Scope Lens
Ability: Sniper
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Draco Meteor
- Ice Beam
- Focus Energy

Thundurus-Therian (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Atk
Hasty Nature
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Grass Knot
- U-turn

Klefki (M) @ Red Card
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Recycle
- Thunder Wave
- Spikes
- Foul Play
 
Hello,

If you are lacking more rain after some practice, you can put damp rock/rain dance on klefki.

You should switch kabutops or azumarill to a choice band set. It could help to make some instant and strong damage.
 
Sadly Key Chainz doesn't have recover or pain split available.

If ur gonna go RD + D Rock then make sure to test ur team with both P-Toed and Klefki as leads to see which one provides you the early game advantage
 
You are using a Rain Dance team with only Politoed with drizzle forecasting the rain. Please put Rain Dance on Tornados-T or over one more mon, thats not rain dance, thats offense with specstoed only lol .-.
 
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