Rate my 1st gen icon based team and stuff (feat. the 3 starter evos)

SSJ Michael Jackson

Kush (Charizard) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 96 HP/162 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
- Overheat

My lead. He actually outspeeds and OHKOs a lot of common starters, including but not limited to, Weavile, Azelf, Gengar, Yanmega and Ninjask, among other things.


Dank (Blastoise) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/106 SAtk/152 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic
- Surf

Fairly potent tank, but probably because he's underestimated often. I'm not sure if I want to go with Aqua Tail or Waterfall. The low PP of Aqua Tail has actually gotten in my way often.


Herb (Venusaur) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP/6 Spd/252 SDef
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Standard. Sleep Powder then Leech Seed on the switch. If they didn't switch, they will when they see the Leech Seed so toss another their way. *I replaced Leaf Storm with Sludge bomb so that I'll atleast have something to hit other grass types with. Is it really that bad?


Seed (Gengar) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

Standard beastly Gengar, as usual.


Stem (Alakazam) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Focus Blast
- Psychic
- Grass Knot

I think this guy could use some revision as far as the move pool goes. I don't really like his type-coverage and 3 Focus Blasts seems unnecessary.


Munchies (Snorlax) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 140 HP/116 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Whirlwind
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Completely changed up the Snorlax build. Doesn't have anything to hit ghosts with but it's usually not too much of a problem. Maybe I should go with Crunch or EQ instead of Body Slam?




Yeah, I know it's not optimal. This is my "fun" team, but I've taken down quite a few teams with it. I guess I could replace Snorlax with a Dragonite or Gyarados or some other heavily advertised Pokemon, but yeah, I kinda want to keep the other core 5 members in tact.
 
For the charizard set, this is a nice spread.

152hp/252satk/150spd
modest

The EV spread gives you enough hp to come in on SR twice to activate blaze, (w/o taking any dmg of course) and youll be outspeeding everything youll need to be.

I run fire blast and HP ice though its up to you.

Also consider running RTchamp over zam maybe? itl do this team some good.
 
Heh, I fought you today... I ended up winning but it was close. One thing I would do is get EQ over Body Slam on Snorlax. I know, STAB is nice, but you're basically asking Lucario to come in and sweep your team at this point. He 2x resists Body Slam, and 4x resists Crunch... the SD version could easily get up a boost or two, and sweep you. Basically Venusaur might be able to take a hit... boosted Extremespeed or Bullet Punch kills everyone else.

Specs Lucario is less of a problem, but can still get in on Snoralx easily.
 
skiddle is right about the SD/ES/CC/BP Luke weak, but EQ is not helping him because CC OHKOS it anyways. Out of the 1st generation pokes Weezing is the most likely to be able to take it.
 
The fact that your Lead is holding a Scarf negates its need for a speed plus nature. Most scarf leads only pack 395 speed, so a Modest nature will suffice. If your looking to play in OU, Charizard wont cut it as a lead. Can't OHKO Tyranitar, Gengar, or Gyarados. Its actually owned by all of them. Shitty lead.

Blastoise.....umm.....83 base Attack and 78 base Speed does not spell physical sweeping. I'd go for
Calm
Yawn Hp Electric Rapid Spin/Toxic and Surf
EV's: 252 Hp/96 Sp Att/152 Sp Def
If your hell bent on using Blastoise, this set works with your team. Gives you the ability to force switches and fuck some shit up. If you want to keep a spinner go for Rapid Spin over Toxic, but the more status the better.

Venusaur...why not go with a sub seed set. Just plz...plz don't use Slude Bomb unless you want to Choice Spec its huge base 83 Sp Att stat. I'm sure you could get one surprise kill haha.

Gengar...This team of sweepers doesn't even have a poke with Ice beam, arguably the best type when it comes to offensive power. Give it hp ice over focus blast.

Alakazam...Make this your lead and go with that now o so catchy encore, counter you know the drill set...but if you don't.

Focus Sash Inner Focus Hasty / Mild

4Hp/252 Sp Att and Speed

~ Counter
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast / Grass Knot
~ Encore

I hope I helped.
 
I beg to differ with you on that first comment Ambitions. ScarfZard is a fantastic lead. Yeah T-tar/Gyara/Swampy can take him, but nearly all the rest are in for a surprise. With some HP EVs, he survives a (potentially scarfed) Gengar Thunderbolt, and OHKOs with Overheat (almost with Fire Blast). Outspeeds, OHKOs Scarfcross, OHKOs Azelf, OHKOs Staraptor, OHKOs Infernape, etc (assuming Modest)

I have used him as my lead all through D/P with great results. He is heavily underestimated b/c of Stealth Rock, but I assure you he "cuts it in OU."

Not that it proves anything, but I got to the top 50 on the Shoddy ladder with him as my lead, though of course he isn't the whole team.

Not trying to jump down your throat Ambitions--just trying to defend my favorite poke and others who would use him =D

NOTE: Go Modest, and look into a Hidden Power on him
 
Charizard wont cut it as a lead. Can't OHKO Tyranitar, Gengar, or Gyarados. Its actually owned by all of them. Shitty lead.
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Modest 252 Focus Blast vs 60/0 Tyranitar = 96.63% - 113.48%
Modest 252 Fire Blast vs 4/0 Gengar = 92.75% - 109.16%

Yeah...Charizard just got owned? If you're going to post stuff like that, at least make sure it's accurate.
 
Well definitely keep that Charizard lead as it definitely looks solid and a nice threat. Does Air Slash 3HKO Swampert on the switch? They usually will try to switch in and Roar away Belly Drum versions and if Air Slash 3HKOs then HP Grass may be an option?
 
I dont think charizard should be using dragon pulse as u deal about 70% to salamence on average n even lesser to garchomp, mayb try out HP ice? it also provides coverage for gliscor.N perhaps give someone srocks?
 
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