[RMT] Team Finance: How to Survive Platinum.

Doma Orichalcos

The New Team: Ambipom, Gliscor, Vaporeon, Rotom-h, Registeel, Scizor.
Tier Format: Overused.
Game Format: Shoddy Platinum.

The Timeline so far:
Version 1.0: Nidoqueen, Shaymin-s, Starmie, Heatran, Mismagius, Lucario.
Version 1.1: Nidoqueen, Vaporeon, Starmie, Heatran, Registeel, Scizor.
Version 1.2: Aerodactyl, Vaporeon, Starmie, Heatran, Registeel, Scizor.

Team At a Glance​

Version 1.3 (Final version) in now finished. ​

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Intro.
Just like in the Business world, this team is designed for one thing: Predict, Disrupt, and Counter-attack.

Strengths: Countering is a key factor of this team, which is why I've focused on that. So far, I've replaced Heatran, Aerodactyl, and Starmie, for Rotom-h, Gliscor, and Ambipom. For Offense and Defense, Rotom-h and Gliscor are here for just that, Ambipom is a surprise lead. Remaining on the team are Registeel, Scizor, and Vaporeon.
I think I've finally found a great anti-lead that can outspeed TrickGar.
Downfalls: This team lacks a special wall, and against opposing Skymin, Gengar, Scizor, and Vappy, this team is like the game of Dominoes, if one key domino falls, so will the rest of them.

Team Changes in Blue.
Item Changes in Red.
Move Changes in Brown.

Update: 9/29/08
Team Changes:
Mismagius is replaced by Registeel

Team Changes (9/30/08)
Shaymin-s is replaced by Vaporeon
Nidoqueen is replaced by Aerodactyl
Lucario is replaced by Scizor

Team Changes (10/2/08)
Aerodactyl is replaced by Ambipom
Starmie is replaced by Gliscor
Heatran is replaced by Rotom-h

Here We Go!

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Pokemon #1: Ambipom, the Long Tail Pokemon.
Nickname: Becky IV.
Held Item: Choice Scarf.
Trait: Technician. / Nature: Jolly. (+Spd, -SpAtk.)
EVs: 252Atk, 252Spd, 4HP.
-Ice Punch.
-Pursuit.
-Aerial Ace.
-U-turn.
Why I chose Becky? She will replace Aerodactyl as my new lead for the team or anti-lead if you may call it. As you can see, this lovely specimen can not only be a Flinch and Flee attacker, but as a Scarfer. First off, Pursuit allows me to counter against Trick and with the Scarf, out can outspeed Gengar and also if my prediction serves me well, I can KO it. Ice Punch will take out Salamence, and possibly Skymin; Aerial Ace can KO MixApe; and U-turn may help me fight another if, again, my prediction serves me well if a threat appears.

Becky IV as a Team Player: Like I said in her intro, she can outspeed unless it's scarfed,
The only problem is the side effect of the Choice Scarf.

Becky's Threats: Metagross, Gyarados.

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Pokemon #2: Vaporeon, the Bubble Jet Pokemon.
Nickname: Cash Flow.
Held Item: Leftovers.
Trait: Water Absorb. / Nature: Timid. (+Spd, -Atk.)
EVs: 252HP, 210Def, 48SpAtk.
-Wish.
-Protect.
-Surf.
-Hidden Power Electric.
Why I chose Cash Flow? It's my supporter. Wish and Protect will allow me to either regain its own HP or I can switch and let either Starmie or Registeel take it. As for my attacks: HP:Electric will ko Gyara, and Surf is for STAB.

Cash Flow as a Team Player: It's a WishPasser, It's job is to gain energy for itself or my other Pokemon as well as an attacker.

Cash Flow's Threats: Starmie, Shaymin-s, Bronzong, Heatran.


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Pokemon #3: Gliscor, the Fang Scorp Pokemon.
Nickname: Warren.
Held Item: Leftovers.
Trait: Sand Veil. / Nature: Impish. (+Def, -SpAtk.)
EVs: 252HP, 200Def, 56Atk.
-Stealth Rock.
-Earthquake.
-Stone Edge.
-Roost.
Why I chose Warren? It's my Supporter Poke. Stealth Rock for the set-up for Fire and Flying-types like Zapdos, Earthquake is against probably Regirock for example; Stone Edge to ko Zapdos, and Togekiss; and Roost for HP gain.

Warren as a Team Player: Again, it's a supporter perhaps a phazer, with max HP EV's it'll regain lots of HP to survive another day against the biggest of threats.

Warren's Threats: Celebi, Vaporeon, Skymin.


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Pokemon #4: Rotom-h, the Plasma Pokemon.
Nickname: GE (abbreviated term for General Electric).
Held Item: Leftovers.
Trait: Levitate. / Nature: Bold. (+Def, -Atk.)
EVs: 252HP, 176Def, 80SpDef.
-Overheat.
-Thunderbolt
-Will-o-Wisp.
-Substitute.

Why I chose GE? This will be my wall. The EV spread is inspired by Puggy so I'd like to thank him for it. The set, however is different, not only to prevent RSpinners but Fighting-types as well. I'll start off with Substitute to make a surprise unless it's Roared than I'm screwed. WoW is for sapping HP off big threats like Gliscor and Vappy; As for my attacks: Overheat for STAB and Thunderbolt for Vappy.

GE as a Team Player: Thanks to Levitate, it temporarily solves my problem of Ground-weak.

GE's Threats: Swampert, Heatran


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Pokemon #5: Registeel, the Iron Pokemon.
Nickname: Microsoft.
Held Item: Leftovers.
Trait: Levitate. / Nature: Careful. (+SpDef, -SpAtk.)
EVs: 252HP, 128 Def, 128SpDef.
-Ice Punch.
-Iron Head.
-Rest.
-Sleep Talk.
Why I chose Microsoft? I replaced Mismagius for Registeel as suggested by Sikh Assassin. I'd tried it out a few times and it's pretty good but I think it will be a great counter with Gyarados so I'll might have to replace SkyMin for it as well. Iron Head and Ice Punch will provide against perhaps Rhyperior, Zapdos, and Regice for example. It can absorb WoW and T-Wave with its defense and Special Defense with the combo of Rest and Sleep Talk. (reminds me of Snorlax).

Microsoft as a Team Player: Like I said, it's a status absorber but can be effective with Gyara, I'm not so sure with Skymin, although its Sub-Seed combo will work but can be stopped in its tracks by a faster Heatran and a faster SkyMin.

Microsoft's Threats: Heatran.

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Pokemon #6: Scizor, the Pincir Pokemon.
Nickname: Trump.
Held Item: Life Orb.
Trait: Technician. / Nature: Adamant. (+Atk, -SpAtk.)
EVs: 252Atk, 142HP , 116SpDef.
-Swords Dance.
-Bullet Punch.
-X Scissor.
-Quick Attack.
Why I chose Trump? As suggested by Zephiel, He's my new late game Sweeper. For the attacks: Swords Dance if I can predict the opponent well, meaning for example, if that person switches;
Bullet Punch will knock out ScarfWeavile as well as for revenge kill; X Scissor for STAB against Cresselia and Quick Attack instead of SuperPower. will help me finish the blow.

Trump as a Team Player: It's known as a sweeper, if it can get at least one Swords Dance, it's gonna take out weakened Poke's.

Trump's Threats: Shaymin-s, Metagross, Dusknoir.
 
First of all, I commend you on the fact you've made another pretty solid team in my eyes but it does have a little work cut out for it.

While you may have Skymin on your team, it does not stop other teams from using Pokemon and completely annihilating yours. Your Heatran can actually counter this problem rather easily if you gave it the right nature. Giving Heatran a Hasty nature allows it to outspeed and promptly OHKO Skymin if doesn't have a Sub up already. To make sure of this, you'll have to use your Lucario's ExtremeSpeed and sacrifice it along the ways to kill the broken Skymin. Since the Sub is now broken (or if your opponent is really good, you're screwed), you can OHKO it with Heatran as you can outspeed it now. SubSeed isn't really a problem for you but all out attacker is.

You also have a pretty huge Mamoswine weak integrated in this team as well. To stop both of Skymin-S and Mamoswine, I suggest you use Registeel as it is your only option from complete decimation. Registeel with 252 HP, 128 Def, and 128 SpD, will be able to survive Earth Power / Earthquake respectively, and KO both threats back with Iron Head and Ice Punch (2HKO Skymin, but with Heatran support this is useful as well actually). I suggest you replace Mismagius for this as Lucario is the late game sweeper, and Heatran already counters Infernape.

The complete moveset of the Registeel would, 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD, with ResTalk, Ice Punch, and Iron Head. This way you kill 2 birds with one stone. I should also tell you that no matter what Starmie can't outspeed Skymin without Scarf, but it is needed on a team like this actually still. You can kill all Dragons, Gyarados, and Infernape if Heatran is down.

Other than this, the team is magnificent, but it has a few kinks. If I see any conflicting advice, or more help is necessary and I can offer it I will gladly post once again.
 
Sikh Assassin said:
First of all, I commend you on the fact you've made another pretty solid team in my eyes but it does have a little work cut out for it.

While you may have Skymin on your team, it does not stop other teams from using Pokemon and completely annihilating yours. Your Heatran can actually counter this problem rather easily if you gave it the right nature. Giving Heatran a Hasty nature allows it to outspeed and promptly OHKO Skymin if doesn't have a Sub up already. To make sure of this, you'll have to use your Lucario's ExtremeSpeed and sacrifice it along the ways to kill the broken Skymin. Since the Sub is now broken (or if your opponent is really good, you're screwed), you can OHKO it with Heatran as you can outspeed it now. SubSeed isn't really a problem for you but all out attacker is.

You also have a pretty huge Mamoswine weak integrated in this team as well. To stop both of Skymin-S and Mamoswine, I suggest you use Registeel as it is your only option from complete decimation. Registeel with 252 HP, 128 Def, and 128 SpD, will be able to survive Earth Power / Earthquake respectively, and KO both threats back with Iron Head and Ice Punch. I suggest you replace Mismagius for this as Lucario is the late game sweeper, and Heatran already counters Infernape.

The complete moveset of the Registeel would, 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD, with ResTalk, Ice Punch, and Iron Head. This way you kill 2 birds with one stone. I should also tell you that no matter what Starmie can't outspeed Skymin without Scarf, but it is needed on a team like this actually still. You can kill all Dragons, Gyarados, and Infernape if Heatran is down.

Other than this, the team is magnificent, but it has a few kinks. If I see any conflicting advice, or more help is necessary and I can offer it I will gladly post once again.
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And Mamo can be taught with SuperPower as well.
I always thought that Vaporeon will do well with the team but I'll worry about that later on.

As as for your Skymin comment, I agree, it it outspeeds mine, half of my team will be trounced.

I'll take your advice of Steel.
Thanks again for your help.
 
Nice username.

One big problem here is the lack of a status absorber, the main problem about this is being unable to take Hypnosis.

The main problem of this team however, is, in my opinion, it just can't defend well enough and attack well at the same time. Then again I could be biased, since I hate balanced play styles and always go stall or offense. I still stand by with what I said though. I think your team is just too fragile and needs plenty of switching, which makes it harder for you.

You have a huge Kingdra weakness. It will do massive damage to everything. Luckily for you it's not very common. I also see a Gengar weakness, it will do a large amount of damage to just about anyone in this team. With Starmie being so fragile and residual damage stacking up, Infernape could potentially have some fun with this team. Something like Salamence or Dragonite will also do great damage to this team, after 1 or 2 DDs it could pretty much be over. Sometimes you'll need to sacrifice pokemon to counter others, such as your own Starmie.

I really hate Mismagius being here, it just feels so useless. Why block RSpin when you only have Stealth Rock? I am also not sure about Starmie either, with Sandstorm and other kinds of residual damage it won't last long, even with Recover, so it won't be able to counter well.

The hardest part is suggestion. I don't know what to say honestly without making a fool of myself. I'll eventually think of something.
 
Zephiel said:
Nice username.

One big problem here is the lack of a status absorber, the main problem about this is being unable to take Hypnosis.

The main problem of this team however, is, in my opinion, it just can't defend well enough and attack well at the same time. Then again I could be biased, since I hate balanced play styles and always go stall or offense. I still stand by with what I said though. I think your team is just too fragile and needs plenty of switching, which makes it harder for you.

You have a huge Kingdra weakness. It will do massive damage to everything. Luckily for you it's not very common. I also see a Gengar weakness, it will do a large amount of damage to just about anyone in this team. With Starmie being so fragile and residual damage stacking up, Infernape could potentially have some fun with this team. Something like Salamence or Dragonite will also do great damage to this team, after 1 or 2 DDs it could pretty much be over. Sometimes you'll need to sacrifice pokemon to counter others, such as your own Starmie.

I really hate Mismagius being here, it just feels so useless. Why block RSpin when you only have Stealth Rock? I am also not sure about Starmie either, with Sandstorm and other kinds of residual damage it won't last long, even with Recover, so it won't be able to counter well.

The hardest part is suggestion. I don't know what to say honestly without making a fool of myself. I'll eventually think of something.
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Yeah but I'm not too comfortable in creating a stall team right now lol
For your comments, Mismagius is as well for Tentacruel but I'll have to give it a test run, and DDKingdra may will be insane in Platinum, perhaps I'll replace it with Gyara or as Sikh said I could ditch Missy for Registeel to absorb Kingdra's Outrage.

Thanks again for the warning about Kingdra.
 
You have a really severe Heatran weakness. Especially Scarf ones which can Outspeed every single thing here, as well as OHKO-2HKO everything on this team. Starmie isn't doing anything to Heatran due to the lack of defensive EVs. Starmie takes 38.70% - 45.55% from a +Speed Scarftran which means that after Starmie attacks, takes 10% with LO, then switches into SR taking 12%, it will 2HKO Starmie, even by rolling minimum damage twice (10% + 12% + 39% + 39% = 100%). Therefore it isn't realiable enough to counter Heatran on it's own.

Bearing in mind you want some sort of "counter" Pokemon which takes on Gyara/Ape/Mence like Starmie did, I would strongly suggest Vaporeon over Starmie. It retains that Electric + Water + Ice combo which is useful to take out threats albeit with a lot more bulk. And it has Wish to heal your Nidoqueen or even Registeel (when you don't want to rest). Something like HP Electric/Surf/Wish/Ice beam with 252 HP/252 Defence/4 Sp.Attack should be great for it.

Go with Hasty > Rash on ScarfTran. It can outspeed SkyMin then and the extra speed is useful as well for stuff sitting at 394 (Aero/Jolteon/Crobat). I would definitely go with Hidden Power [Ice] in that slot.

There's no use in going SubSeed with Shaymin really. No point in stalling out Milotic/Vaporeon/Rhyperior with SubSeed if you can just OHKO with Seed Flare. go with Substitute/Seed Flare/Air Slash/Earth Power. It's a bigger threat really and Subsitute helps with prediction.
 
Giant Enemy Crab said:
You have a really severe Heatran weakness. Especially Scarf ones which can Outspeed every single thing here, as well as OHKO-2HKO everything on this team. Starmie isn't doing anything to Heatran due to the lack of defensive EVs. Starmie takes 38.70% - 45.55% from a +Speed Scarftran which means that after Starmie attacks, takes 10% with LO, then switches into SR taking 12%, it will 2HKO Starmie, even by rolling minimum damage twice (10% + 12% + 39% + 39% = 100%). Therefore it isn't realiable enough to counter Heatran on it's own.

Bearing in mind you want some sort of "counter" Pokemon which takes on Gyara/Ape/Mence like Starmie did, I would strongly suggest Vaporeon over Starmie. It retains that Electric + Water + Ice combo which is useful to take out threats albeit with a lot more bulk. And it has Wish to heal your Nidoqueen or even Registeel (when you don't want to rest). Something like HP Electric/Surf/Wish/Ice beam with 252 HP/252 Defence/4 Sp.Attack should be great for it.

Go with Hasty > Rash on ScarfTran. It can outspeed SkyMin then and the extra speed is useful as well for stuff sitting at 394 (Aero/Jolteon/Crobat). I would definitely go with Hidden Power [Ice] in that slot.

There's no use in going SubSeed with Shaymin really. No point in stalling out Milotic/Vaporeon/Rhyperior with SubSeed if you can just OHKO with Seed Flare. go with Substitute/Seed Flare/Air Slash/Earth Power. It's a bigger threat really and Subsitute helps with prediction.
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I always thought about adding Vaporeon, but I don't know what to take out. Thanks for the help.
 
I'm going to try edit this team and see how well I can do it.

First off, you should definitely try a bulky Starmie. Life Orb makes it unable to counter well. And I doubt people will switch Shaymin on Starmie. If it's been doing well for you though.. Gyarados will probably require a sacrifice since Starmie is too fragile. Something like this maybe:

252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe

Surf
Recover
Reflect / Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Now you can counter Heatran as well. If you want you can also put a Vaporeon here.

I still say Gengar will do much damage to this team, Focus Blast does 43-50% to Registeel with Choice Scarf and Timid I believe. It will make you predict and sometimes you'll be wrong. It hits every pokemon on your team super effectively. So I suggest a good old Scizor, which is also a better lategame sweeper than Lucario:

Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 142 HP / 252 Atk / 116 SpD
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- X-Scissor
- Roost / Superpower

I prefer Superpower because you can't kill Skarm and it will just switch out.
 
Zephiel said:
I'm going to try edit this team and see how well I can do it.

First off, you should definitely try a bulky Starmie. Life Orb makes it unable to counter well. And I doubt people will switch Shaymin on Starmie. If it's been doing well for you though.. Gyarados will probably require a sacrifice since Starmie is too fragile. Something like this maybe:

252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe

Surf
Recover
Reflect / Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Now you can counter Heatran as well. If you want you can also put a Vaporeon here.

I still say Gengar will do much damage to this team, Focus Blast does 43-50% to Registeel with Choice Scarf and Timid I believe. It will make you predict and sometimes you'll be wrong. It hits every pokemon on your team super effectively. So I suggest a good old Scizor, which is also a better lategame sweeper than Lucario:

Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 142 HP / 252 Atk / 116 SpD
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- X-Scissor
- Roost / Superpower

I prefer Superpower because you can't kill Skarm and it will just switch out.
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I did trained a Scizor on my last Shoddy team but I wanted to try out Luke first but your version is different than mine so I'll give your version of Scizor a shot. No problem.
 
Doma Orichalcos said:
I've fixed the team up so please have a look at it, as well as everyone.
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Scarfgar with trick can still throw off the lead.

Too be honest, the only leads that can be immune against trick are the ones
with the same item (scarf) or the ones with toxic orb, black sludge, etc.

Keep Nidoqueen but with black sludge this time.
 
I like your team :).
You have 4 sandstorm immunities there; Why not try to fit T-tar in there for Starmie or Vaporeon. In the sand, tar is a pretty good special wall :0.
 
again with the offensive lead on a lon offensive team! what's the point of aero if starmie/forry just comes in in on registeel for free and just spin your shit away ={

Im surprised no one has mentioned "standard" zapdos with roost thunderbolt heat wave and a filler (hp grass/ice/ground, roar, thunder wave, sub etc) because its extremely problematic to your entire team...

vaporeon and starmie are also redundant, and why is vappy scared of heatran?

what i see in this team is decent switches into the most common threats and an attempt at classic heatran/scizor sweeping. those two are mostly threatened by gyara who you have pretty much covered (bar jolly wacan gyara!) and stuff...

So let's decide what to do with this team ;D

first of scratch aero. the point of that lead is to get sr down, prevent opponents from getting it down, and set the tone for an offensive game. your team has a sleep talker and a wishpasser so i woulndt call it an offensive team... if you really want a cool lead, try porygon2, who makes a great switch into heatra, gyarados, and mence to an extent and can boltbeam. coolest of all it can magic coat taunting leads and prevent them form setting up, while discharging the switchin and recovering off damage! With this, I'd make starmie more standard with surf, rapid spin, recover and thunderbolt. vaporeon is starting to look redundant but you have heatran and gyara covered with p2 and starmie. your defensive core is extremely hera weak though and you're still lacking stealth rock.. sounds like gliscor could be useful ;D I'd put stone edge on it for zapdos.

let's take a second. you have p2, starmie, gliscor and registeel as a defensive core.. mamo and infernape on the same team are gonna give starmie a run for its money but scarftran and scizor should be able to mess it up some.

try it out ;F
 
Hey try this Scizor it's worked GREAT for me

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Scizor @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 attack 176 spD, 82 speed

-Quick Attack
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-X-scissor

Description: X scisor takes care of metagross because after an SD it takes a big chunk out of it and you never really had a threat with skymin. Dusknoir will always be a scizor counter unless you just throw nightslash in over x scissor. But hey, I hope I helped!
 
Gormenghast said:
again with the offensive lead on a lon offensive team! what's the point of aero if starmie/forry just comes in in on registeel for free and just spin your shit away ={

Im surprised no one has mentioned "standard" zapdos with roost thunderbolt heat wave and a filler (hp grass/ice/ground, roar, thunder wave, sub etc) because its extremely problematic to your entire team...

vaporeon and starmie are also redundant, and why is vappy scared of heatran?

what i see in this team is decent switches into the most common threats and an attempt at classic heatran/scizor sweeping. those two are mostly threatened by gyara who you have pretty much covered (bar jolly wacan gyara!) and stuff...

So let's decide what to do with this team ;D

first of scratch aero. the point of that lead is to get sr down, prevent opponents from getting it down, and set the tone for an offensive game. your team has a sleep talker and a wishpasser so i woulndt call it an offensive team... if you really want a cool lead, try porygon2, who makes a great switch into heatra, gyarados, and mence to an extent and can boltbeam. coolest of all it can magic coat taunting leads and prevent them form setting up, while discharging the switchin and recovering off damage! With this, I'd make starmie more standard with surf, rapid spin, recover and thunderbolt. vaporeon is starting to look redundant but you have heatran and gyara covered with p2 and starmie. your defensive core is extremely hera weak though and you're still lacking stealth rock.. sounds like gliscor could be useful ;D I'd put stone edge on it for zapdos.

let's take a second. you have p2, starmie, gliscor and registeel as a defensive core.. mamo and infernape on the same team are gonna give starmie a run for its money but scarftran and scizor should be able to mess it up some.

try it out ;F
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I'm just trying something different, as usual. I do find much in sync with using Gliscor so I'll take your word and advice on it. Thanks!

Donutt said:
Hey try this Scizor it's worked GREAT for me

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Scizor @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 attack 176 spD, 82 speed

-Quick Attack
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-X-scissor

Description: X scisor takes care of metagross because after an SD it takes a big chunk out of it and you never really had a threat with skymin. Dusknoir will always be a scizor counter unless you just throw nightslash in over x scissor. But hey, I hope I helped!
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Hey thanks for the suggestion on NSlash, but I can also ko Skymin with Quick Attack as well (thanks to SDance).
 
The nature on Heatran should be Hasty instead of Naive as this means you will take 10% more damage from Draco Meteor which you should be able to take fairly well. Hasty also subtracts Defense, but this isn't a problem for Heatran as it won't survive and Dugtrio's EQ, or Lucario's Close Combat either. If you keep using Naive as the nature, you will lose the ability to switch on Ice Beam, Grass Knot, Thunderbolt (some what), Shadow Ball, and Dragon Pulse, including the aforementioned Draco Meteor. If you use a Hasty nature on the other hand, you pick "the lesser of the two evils."
 
Sikh Assassin said:
The nature on Heatran should be Hasty instead of Naive as this means you will take 10% more damage from Draco Meteor which you should be able to take fairly well. Hasty also subtracts Defense, but this isn't a problem for Heatran as it won't survive and Dugtrio's EQ, or Lucario's Close Combat either. If you keep using Naive as the nature, you will lose the ability to switch on Ice Beam, Grass Knot, Thunderbolt (some what), Shadow Ball, and Dragon Pulse, including the aforementioned Draco Meteor. If you use a Hasty nature on the other hand, you pick "the lesser of the two evils."
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Naive Nature is fine IMO. He can take all of those attacks easily except Draco Meteor who Registeel can take very well. Wow I've never seen a Heatran that isn't able to switch in on ice beam and I still haven't. It resist Ice Beam X4 which means regardless of nature it will take the attack very well.
 
So you seem to have a large issue with Sub + 3 attack Skymin. If it takes out Heatran, you are gonna have a lot of trouble taking it out late-game.

Another issue you have is Swampert. Sure you can wear it down, but Curse versions will give you a large headache, and with no phazer, you're gonna need to take it down fast before it takes you out.

I feel that Starmie needs to go. Sure it has a lot of type-coverage, but other pokemon can hit harder in that slot. Vaporeon does everything that you would want Starmie to do anyway (counter Infernape and Gyarados). Zapdos would fit nicely in that slot. Primarily, Zapdos hits harder than Starmie, and is much more of a threat in the Platinum metagame. If you give Zapdos HP Grass, you'll also have an easier time dealing with Swampert.

This leaves you with a slight problem with dragons, but if you play Heatran + Registeel properly, you shouldn't have any real issues.
 
Twist of Fate said:
So you seem to have a large issue with Sub + 3 attack Skymin. If it takes out Heatran, you are gonna have a lot of trouble taking it out late-game.

Another issue you have is Swampert. Sure you can wear it down, but Curse versions will give you a large headache, and with no phazer, you're gonna need to take it down fast before it takes you out.

I feel that Starmie needs to go. Sure it has a lot of type-coverage, but other pokemon can hit harder in that slot. Vaporeon does everything that you would want Starmie to do anyway (counter Infernape and Gyarados). Zapdos would fit nicely in that slot. Primarily, Zapdos hits harder than Starmie, and is much more of a threat in the Platinum metagame. If you give Zapdos HP Grass, you'll also have an easier time dealing with Swampert.

This leaves you with a slight problem with dragons, but if you play Heatran + Registeel properly, you shouldn't have any real issues.
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Yeah and that's why I've been fixing this team primarily for two major obstacles: Trick and SubSkyMin.

Furthermore, It would be able to survive an IBeam from LOStarmie, but that's a little off-topic, so I would take some studying on this team with Zapdos in the picture, but I also would fear for Stealth Rock as well.

Thanks for your input.
 
Awful electric weak here, and the team isn't exactly fast. 3 weaks and 3 neutrals!

Gliscor would be amazing here. Starmie has to go, you don't need two water types. You can try Gliscor over Starmie.
 
Zephiel said:
Awful electric weak here, and the team isn't exactly fast. 3 weaks and 3 neutrals!

Gliscor would be amazing here. Starmie has to go, you don't need two water types. You can try Gliscor over Starmie.
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Yeah, I haven't had time to fix this team until today because I'm suppose to be working lol
But today, again lol, I've remade this team for the final time so I hope this team will do well.

For everyone
Once again, thank you all for helping me, I'll add your usernames for credit later on.
 
You chose Ambipom of all leads?

A Deoxys-S with Dual Screen COULD be useful instead. Maybe a Roserade or a Weavile.
 
Pokemon #4: Rotom-h, the Plasma Pokemon.
Nickname: GE (abbreviated term for General Electric).
Held Item: Choice Scarf.
Trait: Levitate. / Nature: Bold. (+Def, -Atk.)
EVs: 252HP, 176Def, 80SpDef.
-Overheat.
-Thunderbolt
-Will-o-Wisp.
-Substitute.

I dont get it. Why run Scarf + Sub? Either get rid of the scarf or add trick.
 
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