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Rotom Forms
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agree.... i think suicune's main issue is that in most sets he has to choose coverage.... if he doesnt run hp electric vappy milotic and even jellicent can do well against him.... if he doesnt run ice beam then the grass types can do their thing...
Oh yea... why arent u running @ least SOME sort of phase? I cant remember the last time I fought a team without @ least one stat boosting sweeper/wall...
But back to the task @ hand... rotom-w tank sets anyone?
Best Suicune set ive ran out of all of them is Bold @ Chesto Berry with HP Elec, Ice Beam, Calm Mind, Rest other wise lack of coverage rapes you. But yeah, Choice Specs Hydro Pump from Rotom W is enough to 2HKO Specially Defensive Skarm and do ~90% to Physically Defensive Skarm so even neutral hits are brutal
Genosect u-turns and gains momentum, while Rotom takes SR damage. Genosect can even go LO and U-Turn out whenever Rotom switches in.
So you are forcing the use of Stealth Rock in the analogy to find some possible situation for Genesect to not be countered by Rotom-H. For one, this isn't Gen IV and SR is becoming less necessary to have up first turn, if at all. That is why pokemon like Volcarona are used now. Also Rotom can heal himself, and I also find it silly how you consider Genosect being forced out with U-turn, doing next to no damage to Rotom to be "momentum". Genosect either U-turns out (if he even carries U-turn, or he switches, because he cannot threaten Rotom-H at all. For a whole host of reasons (Burn, Para, Overheat, Pain Split)) meaning that Rotom-H is by defenition, countering Genosect.
With spinner support on your team, which is common, Genosect won't even be able to rack up damage on Rotom-H, while all it's attacks get resisted.
Techno Booster (Water) says hi.
Well anyone using techo booster is an idiot so you should have an easy win anyways.
Lol water techno booster.
Rotom-H is pretty much a textbook counter to Genesect, and it always will be. Genesect has little use for Water Techno Booster anyway. I don't think that Genesect will be enough of a threat to bring Rotom-H out of the depths of UU (just go look at DW), but it's there if you need it.
Rotom-H is pretty much a textbook counter to Genesect, and it always will be. Genesect has little use for Water Techno Booster anyway. I don't think that Genesect will be enough of a threat to bring Rotom-H out of the depths of UU (just go look at DW), but it's there if you need it.
At least Genesect has something to damage Rotom-H (no matter how bad the move may be), unlike the older reason to use Rotom-H -cough- Scizor -cough-
Scizor could Fling Iron Orbs, which was seen as often as Water Techno Booster will be. >_>
It's called Techno Blast anyway.
rotom-w: bold or calm for tank set? ivs? I was planning on using him as an alternate on my rain team, so i was leaning towards bold because the politoed im using is specially defensive... but i guess bold is not really an option since i have not heard any mention of a bold natured one anywhere? thoughts?
whats your favorite rotom form, personally, mine is the frost form
Mine is Wash form. He has so many capabilities and uses that he's just too good compared to the others.
You've seriously never seen a Bold Wash/Heat Rotom? AHAHA
That was like, the standard bulky set's nature for them back in Gen 4 IIRC, but I haven't checked their analyses lately. Pretty sure of it though.
you are laughing @ me... but your not sure... i dont get it...
i dont see bold mentioned on any of the guides here on smogon (for gen 5 anyways)
my bad i have never wanted to use rotom-w... it wasnt quite as good when it was eletric/ghost typing...
maybe you didnt understand my post... but i was actually asking for help because i dont know...
not everyone is a rotom expert
Been using Rotom C (Grass) on a rain team and it's been pretty damn effective, in particular at stopping other Rotoms. It's easily one of the most mindless switch ins. A set of Leaf Storm/Thunderbolt/Wow/Pain Split is effective. It also deals with those annoying WaterGround types, but that's pretty true for all grass types
Guys, he was asking for advice on a Rotom-W (right?)
In case you're interested. :) He still runs the nearly same set (but T-Bolt instead of Discharge) and has better typing now. I would personaly go with 88 SpD since I never found the extra speed to be useful.