Sableye

WoW/taunt/recover/night shade pretty much shuts down stall completely. Way more so than something like CM reuniclus which everyone is QQing about. Short of having heatran on the team, there's really nothing stall can do to this sableye.
 
voodoo pimp said:
On the other hand, WoW/Swagger/Trickery means you only have one other slot, and losing Taunt or Recover is going to hurt a lot.
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Why would you use Will-O-Wisp and Swagger together? That's really counteractive, since Will-O-Wisp will make Trickery weaker. If you really need a status on him, use Toxic for this set. Or better yet, use Substitute and then Recover in the last slot. That way you can Swagger and then Sub until they hurt themselves, and you can freely attack or Recover behind the unbroken sub.
 
Sableye - Leftovers / Wide Lens
Mischievous Heart
252 HP, etc.
- Swagger
- Trickery
- Substitute
- Recover

Hands down my favourite Sableye set. MH gives it speed, Trickery gives it power, and so all you need then is to invest in Bulk. It's fairly risky, as though you can end up wearing down three pokemon and making your opponent rage, you can also give it an attack boost and let it kill you, meaning Unaware is a lovely ability to have somewhere else on your team.
 
Bologo said:
Why would you use Will-O-Wisp and Swagger together? That's really counteractive, since Will-O-Wisp will make Trickery weaker. If you really need a status on him, use Toxic for this set. Or better yet, use Substitute and then Recover in the last slot. That way you can Swagger and then Sub until they hurt themselves, and you can freely attack or Recover behind the unbroken sub.
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As was mentioned, burn doesn't affect the damage you do with Trickery. Hence the thought that you could do much more damage with Swagger yet limit it to yourself with burn.
 
How about a Sableye using Bark out as a way of damage and surviving special hits by lowering the opponent's Sp.Atk seeing as WoW halves the opponent's Atk? Is that Viable?

Words can't describe my love for this poke though, especially using him as a lead.
 
Silverythoughts said:
How about a Sableye using Bark out as a way of damage and surviving special hits by lowering the opponent's Sp.Atk seeing as WoW halves the opponent's Atk? Is that Viable?

Words can't describe my love for this poke though, especially using him as a lead.
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That's an Interesting Idea. The Special Attack drop could be removed by switching though...

Just for the record, the event Zoroark with Bark Out is Male so you can breed Bark Out onto Other Pokemon due to being TM95
 
astrohawke said:
WoW/taunt/recover/night shade pretty much shuts down stall completely. Way more so than something like CM reuniclus which everyone is QQing about. Short of having heatran on the team, there's really nothing stall can do to this sableye.
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People just don't seem to realize this. At all.

If you merely wait until they've lost their Heatran then there's nothing stall can do against you. It's very sad to watch. Scarftar on stall would be a problem but burn takes care of that. Everything else is simply a matter of using Taunt / WoW at the right time.

Honestly if you have an extra team spot you may as well pack a Sableye. It's really worth it and can save you in many, many tight spaces.
 
I've run into my fair share against Mischievous Heart Sableye, and despite its seemingly poor stats, MH screws me up almost every time. The only time I can counter it effectively is to have Sigilyph come in, absorb the burn from W-o-W and pray that STAB Air Slash hax will run its course (assuming the opponent doesn't switch Sableye out).
 
[SET]
name: Am I a Bastiodon?
move 1: Fake out
move 2: Metal Burst
move 3: Protect / Taunt
move 4: Shadow sneak
nature: Adamant
item: focus sash
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
ivs: 0 Def / 0 Spdef

[SET]
name: Can’t touch this
move 1: Fake out
move 2: Flash
move 3: Substitute / Protect / Confuse Ray / Mean Look
move 4: Toxic / Night Shade
nature: Careful
item: Brightpowder
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 144 def / 108 Spdef


I made these sets when i reserved this way back when. I dont care that you are making this thread, but these sets are the bomb.
 
Other than special attackers and things that don't mind burn (either by fire typing, having Guts, having Poison Heal already activated, Magic Guard, etc.), nope.
 
Sableye
wow
taunt
Night Shade
Recovery


As my lead, i generally wear down 2-3 pokemon, when then switch... i wow, then counter switch...

hes really hard to play against
 
I thought of this lead set for Sableye.

Sableye
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Brave/Quiet (+Atk/SpA, -Spe)
IVs: 31/31/0/31/0/0
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA
Item: Focus Sash
Moves: Fake Out
Will-o-Wisp / Toxic
Taunt
Metal Burst

Throw it out against a lot of leads, Taunt with Prankster's priority to prevent set-up. Brace for a powerful hit then return it with a very slow Metal Burst (dealing ~455 damage if the attack leaves Sableye with 1 HP). If that doesn't take it out, toss a Toxic at it or Will-o-Wisp.
 
just wondering would baton pasing stokpile be a good idea? I think it would be good because the defencive capabilety would be much beter, I mean it could take quite a lot of damage then
 
Mr. Sableye said:
I thought of this lead set for Sableye.

Sableye
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Brave/Quiet (+Atk/SpA, -Spe)
IVs: 31/31/0/31/0/0
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA
Item: Focus Sash
Moves: Fake Out
Will-o-Wisp / Toxic
Taunt
Metal Burst

Throw it out against a lot of leads, Taunt with Prankster's priority to prevent set-up. Brace for a powerful hit then return it with a very slow Metal Burst (dealing ~455 damage if the attack leaves Sableye with 1 HP). If that doesn't take it out, toss a Toxic at it or Will-o-Wisp.
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Metal burst has 0 priority, which would still get boosted to +1 by Prankster :(
 
Cuiv said:
Have you tested it? I would think Metal Burst, and Counter and Mirror Coat, would be counted as damaging attacks and not get the Prankster boost.
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Metal Burst is a Physical attack, not Status. It should be unaffected by Prankster.
 
So, no one uses Metal Burst on Sableye? Sure, you can't have priority Recover with it, but it still should be useful right?
 
zferolie said:
So, no one uses Metal Burst on Sableye? Sure, you can't have priority Recover with it, but it still should be useful right?
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No, you're allowed to have Prankster with it, it won't affect Metal Burst.

Might be useful in some cases, but you can't throw it in front of any poke with strong offense either.
 
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