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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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That, plus to be fair, it's not like there's only OU, it may be shit in OU sure, but could just end up being as a decent midtier pokemon.
...or it could drop to the depths of ZU toghether with half of the current OU.
Personally I am just looking forward to False Swipe Gaming gen 9 videos going once more "With this generation XU resembling generation 8 XU+1" or even XU+2.
I was memeing earlier with someone about Lando-T in UU, he said "nah no way", but then I reminded him how this generation we had former Ubers Blaziken and Aegislash drop all the way to UU so...
That'd be pretty hilarious if it happened
(it won't, but I am 100% sure a bunch of current OUs will end up being nuked due to the massive BST dump this gen is doing)
Yeah the fact that the Beetle too gets the revival, damn.
any ideas on how terastilizing and choice items will interact?
from the level up moves alone, are there any old mons that have access to new moves?
I'd say good for you but as someone who also played the tier and hated it and how restricted it was... I am confused. O.o
Why should there be any special interaction exactly, differently from Dynamax, Terastalyzing doesn't change your moveset.
Nothing particular other than a handful pokemon getting Wave Crash from what I noticed.
Aw... no Chilly Reception for Delibird... I hope he gets it somehow. Also no boosting item for the Hammer mon :(
Gets Wild Charge, Gets Close Combat (as a base mon, probably will learn other shit by other methods), gets a useful move semi-exclusive move. Pawmot never disappoints. Pawmot is my man. I want a Pawmot in my life. Pawmot es mi hombre.
Meanwhile, other mons we expected so much from with their shitty spreads: "oh im sorry my speed got reduced 5 points hahah but you can still make me usable!!! just work harder!! ahahhkjajakajk" pfff they lack caracter, Pawmot didn't allow any of this garbage. Pawmot said "i dare you to reduce my speed to base 100 or less, i dare you again and trice" and no one in GF offices dared to defy its will. This is what I need, mons with caracter, conviction, sheer will. No "jejeje my speed got reduced upon evolving and cant do nothing about it!!" weaklings.
Blood, blood in the veins.
Unpublished images of Pawmot in Game Freak development offices.
Honestly pawmot getting an actually decent stat spread and moveset was something I was unexpected when that leaked. I was expecting just another dedenne or morpeko case of garbage.
Not really quite OU material and unlikely to see use in VGC, but it looks like a solid in-game and mid-tier mon.
Not really quite OU material and unlikely to see use in VGC, but it looks like a solid in-game and mid-tier mon.
The more I think about it, Kingambit sounds like some sengoku era anime Depiction of Oda Nobunaga in that it will sacrifice everything for more power. I bet it's battle cry is the stereotypical evil anime villain laugh lol.
If we follow on the "this is just to say they can't evolve but can reference it for other things" theory then the link comes from it & wyrdeer sharing the same evolution method: They have to use their move in a Style
So basically rather than let it evolve by just knowing the move, it just doesn't get to evolve at all.
Gamefreak!
Powercreep marches on inexorably, leaving all you love tattered and bloodied...
Oh well, at least we got cool mons.
so are tm movesets dropping or..?
The real question is how they will end up calling the inevitable tier under ZUPowercreep marches on inexorably, leaving all you love tattered and bloodied...
Oh well, at least we got cool mons.
-U? MinusU?
I dunno, having a Panic button who's also a decent mon by itself is pretty good. It has good speed, good attack and solid stabs plus, being able to bring your key attacker/wall back in case shit hits the fan is a huge plus. Could it be enough for OU? Dunno but I can say it will have a solid Niche, especially in case EleTerrain spam starts to gain some traction.
it exists and its called SU (SubZero Used)
I can't wait for smogon to add tiers on the imaginary line in gen 16!
I thought of that since the signature move is REALLY strong, however usually the pokemon that run these "suicide + heal ally" moves are defensive pokes like Latias and Cresselia, the latter mostly running it as a way to more quickly bring in a TR sweeper...
I don't think you're willing to bring what's essentially a potential deadweight mon just for that move. Unless a strategy develops that's centralized around a single pokemon sweeping, but whenever that's the cause, it's more a indication of that given pokemon being broken.
you know maybe the guy who wanted tiers to just be numbered was onto something because i think the nomenclature is getting a little too cute
I don’t expect the legendaries to last long in OU besides Wo-Chien, which Tinkaton outspeeds and can clean up with Play Rough.
It also threatens Ting-Lu and Chien-Peo too as it outspeeds the former and resists the latter’s STABs.
It only really cares about Chi-Yu, who definitely will be banned too with Chien-Peo.
Also with the faster pace Meta, Tinkaton might be better under it since barely anything can switch into it and its good defensive typing would let it switch in more often, fire off a Gigaton Hammer, more than likely get a KO or do a Gigaton of damage, then switch out.
After staring at the personal table for hours now, I've come to the conclusion that either:
- The personal table no longer stores the TM information.
or:
- The TM format used in SS has been completely refactored.
It really makes no sense.
The second one seems the most likely, since there is at least one vector of moves in the personal table that I haven't figured out the usage of yet. I wonder if Game Freak compares this data against a list of TMs, and that is how they determine if the species can learn a TM? If so, gross. Anyway, if I don't figure it out within the next hour, I'll at least update the paste with the egg moves.
- The personal table no longer stores the TM information.
or:
- The TM format used in SS has been completely refactored.
It really makes no sense.
The second one seems the most likely, since there is at least one vector of moves in the personal table that I haven't figured out the usage of yet. I wonder if Game Freak compares this data against a list of TMs, and that is how they determine if the species can learn a TM? If so, gross. Anyway, if I don't figure it out within the next hour, I'll at least update the paste with the egg moves.
