SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

Most important learnset observation that I have not seen celebrated:
Lokix does, in fact, get Low Kick.

Also, with Chilling Water getting a TM, it seems like it's probably gonna be the ready-made replacement for Scald as part of the War on Stall? Devs probably realized that a guaranteed but removable attack drop is a significantly lower payoff than a burn that renders a `mon useless for a whole match.

Finally, as I've seen a few others note, the replacement of Hail with Snowstorm is huge in making that weather useful by making it ready made for partial weather teams. Almost an anti-weather weather, since you can replace whatever weather your opponent may want with Snowstorm without having to over constrain your team to avoid consequences.

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Will be curious to see the broader impacts of terastylizing on some of the baked-in type features (i.e. the notes about a Ghost that terastylizes into something else not getting the Ghost-only Curse behavior). Seems likely that, say, a Fire type that terastylizes into another type would no longer be immune to Burn. I, for one, am looking forward to the low-tier dominance of Normal teratyped Flareon.
 
carbonlifeform said:
Edit to avoid double post:
Will be curious to see the broader impacts of terastylizing on some of the baked-in type features (i.e. the notes about a Ghost that terastylizes into something else not getting the Ghost-only Curse behavior). Seems likely that, say, a Fire type that terastylizes into another type would no longer be immune to Burn. I, for one, am looking forward to the low-tier dominance of Normal teratyped Flareon.
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Theorymon said:
Sadly I don't have footage of this because it caught me off guard when I saw it happen but

I saw a Grass Tera Sandygast use Curse, and it did the usual Attack + Def boost and Speed drop instead of the pin in the head thing. So as you would expect, Tera does impact how Curse works on a Pokemon!
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Yeah I don't blame you for not knowing seeing the size of this monster thread.
 
Basculegion gets Liquidation TM lets goooo

Enamorous gets Play Rough to work w/ the contrary-Superpower moveset

And Palfin gets CC??

Cetitan gets belly drum

Pawmot gets fake out, wish, and mach punch

Grafaiai has prankster parting shot

Iron Treads gets Iron Defense + Body Press (But Great Tusks only gets Body Press)

Tinkaton gets Ice Hammer lol that's funny
 
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Is anyone else noticing how good Bramblin and Brambleghast's ability is? It's sap sipper for flying moves! There's now a pokemon with a flying type immunity! But it also makes it so that tailwind gives you +1 attack which means tailwind basically becomes shift gear. They also get Rapid Spin and power whip, but they don't learn poltergeist by level up so they might not learn it.
 
Personwhoisrandom said:
Theorymon said:
Sadly I don't have footage of this because it caught me off guard when I saw it happen but

I saw a Grass Tera Sandygast use Curse, and it did the usual Attack + Def boost and Speed drop instead of the pin in the head thing. So as you would expect, Tera does impact how Curse works on a Pokemon!
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Yeah I don't blame you for not knowing seeing the size of this monster thread.
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Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I was using that as an example to jump off of and expecting that terastylizing replacing your "defensive" type will allow some unexpected shenanigans (Flareon getting to activate Guts with Flame Orb instead of Toxic Orb on top of getting STAB on Facade if terastylized to Normal type, in this example).
 
slp32 said:
Part 1: https://pastebin.com/hmMECP7P
Part 2: https://pastebin.com/wKuA8ZRj

If you see anything that you think is incorrect, do mention it.
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  1. Armarouge - 85/60/100/125/80/75 (Total: 525) - Fire/Psychic - Flash Fire/Flash Fire/Weak Armor
  2. Learned Moves:
  3. Psyshock @ Evolution
  4. Leer @ Lv. 1
  5. Ember @ Lv. 1
  6. Mystical Fire @ Lv. 1
  7. Astonish @ Lv. 1
  8. Wide Guard @ Lv. 1
  9. Clear Smog @ Lv. 8
  10. Fire Spin @ Lv. 12
  11. Will-O-Wisp @ Lv. 16
  12. Night Shade @ Lv. 20
  13. Flame Charge @ Lv. 24
  14. Incinerate @ Lv. 28
  15. Lava Plume @ Lv. 32
  16. Calm Mind @ Lv. 37
  17. Ally Switch @ Lv. 42
  18. Flamethrower @ Lv. 48
  19. Expanding Force @ Lv. 56
  20. Armor Cannon @ Lv. 62
  21. TM Moves:
  22. Take Down, Flamethrower, Psybeam, Solar Beam, Fire Spin, Psychic, Night Shade, Confuse Ray, Light Screen, Reflect, Fire Blast, Rest, Substitute, Protect, Endure, Sleep Talk, Sunny Day, Shadow Ball, Heat Wave, Will-O-Wisp, Facade, Taunt, Helping Hand, Trick, Overheat, Iron Defense, Calm Mind, Fling, Flare Blitz, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Focus Blast, Energy Ball, Flash Cannon, Trick Room, Psyshock, Flame Charge, Acid Spray, Stored Power, Psychic Terrain, Tera Blast

  24. Ceruledge - 75/125/80/60/100/85 (Total: 525) - Fire/Ghost - Flash Fire/Flash Fire/Weak Armor
  25. Learned Moves:
  26. Shadow Claw @ Evolution
  27. Leer @ Lv. 1
  28. Ember @ Lv. 1
  29. Astonish @ Lv. 1
  30. Clear Smog @ Lv. 8
  31. Fire Spin @ Lv. 12
  32. Will-O-Wisp @ Lv. 16
  33. Night Shade @ Lv. 20
  34. Flame Charge @ Lv. 24
  35. Incinerate @ Lv. 28
  36. Lava Plume @ Lv. 32
  37. Swords Dance @ Lv. 37
  38. Ally Switch @ Lv. 42
  39. Bitter Blade @ Lv. 48
  40. Psycho Cut @ Lv. 56
  41. Flare Blitz @ Lv. 62
  42. TM Moves:
  43. Swords Dance, Take Down, Flamethrower, Fire Spin, Night Shade, Confuse Ray, Light Screen, Reflect, Fire Blast, Rest, Substitute, Protect, Endure, False Swipe, Sleep Talk, Sunny Day, Shadow Ball, Heat Wave, Will-O-Wisp, Facade, Taunt, Helping Hand, Brick Break, Overheat, Iron Defense, Dragon Claw, Bulk Up, Close Combat, Fling, Flare Blitz, Poison Jab, X-Scissor, Shadow Claw, Iron Head, Flame Charge, Stored Power, Hex, Phantom Force, Tera Blast
Bro Ceruledge’s Physical Ghost moves are Astonish, Shadow Claw, Phantom Force, and Ghost Tera Blast.
Really feel bad for you guys after learning it only has 85 Speed.
 
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