SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

No Wyrdeer, Sneasler, most of the Pokemon that have Hisui forms aren't here. Ursaluna is likely a one off so we wont even be able to evolve more of them most likely.
We're just not going to get access to them without Legends I guess. This is so stupid.


Incidentally by my count I believe 88 of the Pokemon being added are here. Can't account for any "bonus" Pokemon (Shaymin's probably here, for example)
 
Pure speculation, but part of me wants to believe the Blood Moon form is just an incredibly old Ursaluna. Like, was around for the Hisui-era and has just kept trucking along until the mud on it hardened and it gained funky sensory powers as its actual sensory systems got too old. Really cool design to be sure, can't wait to try out Punished Ursaluna.
 

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My prediction is that getting Blood Moon Ursaluna will work like getting Dusk Form Lycanroc does - you get a special Ursaring with a different Ability from normal (like Own Tempo Rockruff) and only that Ursaring can evolve into Blood Moon Ursaluna.
Oh Christ, I hope not. I always found that implementation a terrible precedent.
 
It's probably an unbreedable one off instead, judging by the way the dex is laid out

I look forward to this new ursaluna making the GTS even more annoying
Or you can't find any other Teddiursa/Ursaring in Kitakami so they're not in the dex, like how Ursaluna's not in the regular one.
 
Volbeat and Illumise? Words cannot describe how sick to my stomach I am..
Well, the datamined list of returning Pokemon made it clear they were coming back at some point, and the recent text change for the Illuminate ability made it all the more likely that Volbeat was coming back sooner rather than later. I wonder if they'll bring back Tail Glow just for it (and the potential transfer-only Manaphy)? They did for BDSP, so I'd say there's a decent chance.

The inclusion of Paldean lines in the Kitakami Dex is interesting, with Orthworm, Bombirdier, and Toedscool/Toedscruel. The last line in particular suggests that, unlike regional variants, convergent species can simply appear in other regions as normal. The Alolan forms that will appear in DLC Part 2 seemed to require the explanation of the Teranium and its ability to replicate the climate of other regions, but there is nothing to suggest something similar in Kitakami, which has classic Wooper and Quagsire in the wild.
 
Ariados, Yanmega, Mightyena, Volbeat, Illumise, Crawdaunt, Leavanny, Ribombee, Arbok, Victreebel, Furret, Ninetales, Poliwrath, Politoed, Noctowl, Ambipom, Mamoswine, Shiftry, Trevenant, Golem, Conkeldurr, Morpeko, Snorlax, Ludicolo, Probopass, Vikavolt, Sandslash, Gliscor, Mandibuzz, Kommo-o, Weezing, Mienshao, Dusknoir, Chimecho, Magcargo, Chandelure, Clefable, Milotic, Swanna, and Cramorant

Also includes regional variants such as Alolan Ninetales/Golem/Sandslash, and Galarian Weezing, as transfer-only

Was surprised to see us getting Victreebel and Golem this early cause I thought those were for Indigo Disk but its nice either way.
 

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Dex pictures for Kitakami Pokemon. Preexisting Pokemon got new pictures taken within the DLC.
So looking through this, I'm going to go down the list and name each and every one of these, and going off this, such list will effectively be the Kitakami Pokedex. In bold are mons already in SV, in italic are returning old Pokemon, and in underline are newly introduced Pokemon.

  1. Spinarak
  2. Ariados
  3. Yanma
  4. Yanmega
  5. Wooper (Johto)
  6. Quagsire
  7. Poochyena
  8. Mightyena
  9. Volbeat
  10. Illumise
  11. Corphish
  12. Crawdaunt
  13. Sewaddle
  14. Swadloon
  15. Leavanny
  16. Cutiefly
  17. Ribombee
  18. Ekans
  19. Arbok
  20. Pichu
  21. Pikachu
  22. Raichu
  23. Bellsprout
  24. Weepinbell
  25. Victreebel
  26. Sentret
  27. Furret
  28. Starly
  29. Staravia
  30. Staraptor
  31. Fomantis
  32. Lurantis
  33. Applin
  34. Flapple
  35. Appletun
  36. Dipplin
  37. Vulpix
  38. Ninetales
  39. Poliwag
  40. Poliwhirl
  41. Poliwrath
  42. Politoed
  43. Magikarp
  44. Gyarados
  45. Hoothoot
  46. Noctowl
  47. Aipom
  48. Ambipom
  49. Heracross
  50. Swinub
  51. Piloswine
  52. Mamoswine
  53. Stantler
  54. Seedot
  55. Nuzleaf
  56. Shiftry
  57. Ralts
  58. Kirlia
  59. Gardevoir
  60. Gallade
  61. Kricketot
  62. Kricketune
  63. Pachirisu
  64. Riolu
  65. Lucario
  66. Petilil
  67. Lilligant
  68. Phantump
  69. Trevenant
  70. Rockruff
  71. Lycanroc
  72. Skwovet
  73. Greedent
  74. Toedscool
  75. Toedscruel
  76. Poltchageist
  77. Sinistcha
  78. Growlithe
  79. Arcanine
  80. Geodude
  81. Graveler
  82. Golem
  83. Bonsly
  84. Sudowoodo
  85. Timburr
  86. Gurdurr
  87. Conkeldurr
  88. Noibat
  89. Noivern
  90. Arrokuda
  91. Barraskewda
  92. Hatenna
  93. Hattrem
  94. Hatterene
  95. Morpeko
  96. Orthworm
  97. Tandemaus
  98. Maushold
  99. Mankey
  100. Primeape
  101. Annihilape
  102. Munchlax
  103. Snorlax
  104. Lotad
  105. Lombre
  106. Lucidolo
  107. Nosepass
  108. Probopass
  109. Shinx
  110. Luxio
  111. Luxray
  112. Grubbin
  113. Charjabug
  114. Vikavolt
  115. Oricorio
  116. Sandshrew
  117. Sandslash
  118. Gastly
  119. Haunter
  120. Gengar
  121. Gligar
  122. Gliscor
  123. Houndour
  124. Houndoom
  125. Spoink
  126. Grumpig
  127. Vullaby
  128. Mandibuzz
  129. Mudbray
  130. Mudsdale
  131. Jangmo-o
  132. Hakamo-o
  133. Kommo-o
  134. Bombirdier
  135. Koffing
  136. Weezing
  137. Mienfoo
  138. Mienshao
  139. Duskull
  140. Dusclops
  141. Dusknoir
  142. Chingling
  143. Chimecho
  144. Slugma
  145. Magcargo
  146. Litwick
  147. Lampent
  148. Chandelure
  149. Surskit
  150. Masquerain
  151. Cleffa
  152. Clefairy
  153. Clefable
  154. Bronzor
  155. Bronzong
  156. Glimmet
  157. Glimmora
  158. Feebas
  159. Milotic
  160. Dunsparce
  161. Dudunsparce
  162. Barboach
  163. Whiscash
  164. Gible
  165. Gabite
  166. Garchomp
  167. Carbink
  168. Salandit
  169. Salazzle
  170. Sneasel
  171. Weavile
  172. Snorunt
  173. Glalie
  174. Froslass
  175. Tynamo
  176. Eelektrik
  177. Eelektross
  178. Goomy
  179. Sliggoo
  180. Goodra
  181. Ducklett
  182. Swanna
  183. Chewtle
  184. Drednaw
  185. Cramorant
  186. Pawniard
  187. Bisharp
  188. Kingambit
  189. Mimikyu
  190. Impidimp
  191. Morgrem
  192. Grimmsnarl
  193. Indeedee
  194. Basculin (White-Striped)
  195. Basculegion
  196. Ursaluna (Blood Moon)
  197. Okidogi
  198. Munkidori
  199. Fezandipiti
  200. Ogerpon


Totals to 200 Pokemon in the Kitakami dex.
 

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Interestingly, Ursaluna is in the dex but not Teddiursa or Ursaring. Given it is the center focus of Perrin's plotline, its placement on the dex right before the Loyal Three and the fact Ursaluna already had legendary stats; I wonder if this is them making a regular Pokémon into a legendary

Also wanna say, idt "its mud is as hard as iron" necessarily means Steel type - This has been used time and time again to say a Pokémon is bulky. Has happened with mons like Gigalith or Avalugg before. Plus, I really don't think "Blood Moon", nor its description, sound anything Steel-like

Not entirely sure what I'd guess the type to be though. Would be pretty funny if it was Fairy like 80% of the moon-related things
 
So, looking forwards a little bit, Khu if I recall correctly said that Indigo Disk would have 8 new mons. We know about Archaludon, the remaining Paradox Dogs and Musketeers and Tarapaogos, but who could the remaining two be?
 
So, looking forwards a little bit, Khu if I recall correctly said that Indigo Disk would have 8 new mons. We know about Archaludon, the remaining Paradox Dogs and Musketeers and Tarapaogos, but who could the remaining two be?
Archaludon has a “counterpart” of sorts. Khu teased them both with the artwork of Black City (representing Archaludon) and White Forest (as-yet-unrevealed Pokémon). Some suspect it could be a further evolution of Dipplin.

I don’t think we know anything about the eighth Pokémon.
 
So how is it possible we got stuff like Pokédex pictures but no official typings?
Because whoever the source is only leaked image assets (Dex images, renders) and text assets (dex entries for the new guys, new moves, new abilities)

Stuff like stats, typings, power, etc weren't included. The Dex Images seemed delayed from everything else, so the other stuff might come too.
 
  1. Outside of the dex images everything else came from Home, I think.
  2. It's a lot easier to extract large files like images than tiny bits of the Pokemon data like type and base stats.
The dex images are also from Home; you can tell because they lack the borders over the image

When you view the Paldea Dex in Home, those are the images you see
 
R_N AztecCroc thx for clarification:-)

The BM Ursaluna seems like a semi Paradox if we won't be able to evolve Ursaring into it.

Also Now it seems quite clear Ursaluna will be the bad guy for whose actions Ogrepon was blamed. What I would love is for one of Blueberry E4 to appear at the end and catch it to use against you in Indigo Disk:-D
 
Also Now it seems quite clear Ursaluna will be the bad guy for whose actions Ogrepon was blamed. What I would love is for one of Blueberry E4 to appear at the end and catch it to use against you in Indigo Disk:-D
I doubt it, it has a specific dex entry for it, not regular Ursaluna but Bloodmoon Ursaluna specifically, so you can definitely catch it yourself.
The BM Ursaluna seems like a semi Paradox if we won't be able to evolve Ursaring into it.
We don't actually know this, people are just assuming since Teddiursa and Ursaring aren't in the Kitakami dex. But Ursaluna's not in the Paldea dex so that doesn't really prove anything.
 
Stuff like stats, typings, power, etc weren't included. The Dex Images seemed delayed from everything else, so the other stuff might come too.
This is what has me thinking there may still be leaks to come in the coming days. There is less than 2 weeks at this point so it's not even really unusual. So I'm interested to see what else, if anything, comes from leakers
 

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