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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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Is there a concrete list of all "tasks" to do in DLC ?
Huh, the Epilogue is releasing sooner than I thought. ...And involves Nemona, Penny, and Arven. ...And from the (relatively little) text dump scouting I did, involves people (like Carmine?) doing the mochi-mochi dance and then coming to.
What does the text dump say the "zombies" say? I couldn't find the word "zombie" anywhere in it. Maybe they're metaphorical zombies who just haven't come to yet?
What does the text dump say the "zombies" say? I couldn't find the word "zombie" anywhere in it. Maybe they're metaphorical zombies who just haven't come to yet?
I wonder if the Epilogue update may come with a small bit of new content besides what’s already programmed into the game — I say this because there are four* Rotom Phone cases in the game’s code that currently can’t be received:
1 and 2) the Scarlet and Violet Cases, which have actually been in the data since The Teal Mask
3) the Blueberry Case (Black), which you will be able to get from Kieran by defeating him at the clubroom after the Epilogue
4) the Neo-Kitakami Case which is a black-and-magenta themed case depicting the stylized “ogre” from the Ogerpon myth signboards
However, only the Black Blueberry Case has a method for obtaining it already programmed in. If the Epilogue update comes purely as-is, that would leave the Scarlet / Violet and Neo-Kitakami Cases unobtainable by any means, other than perhaps a wi-fi or serial code distribution. But I would think the Scarlet / Violet Cases would make sense as a final gift from Briar, who has just such a case applied to her own Rotom Phone, and who did kind of just vanish unceremoniously from the story after we obtained her book. Meanwhile, I feel like the Neo-Kitakami Case would probably be a reward for finishing the Epilogue, but at least judging from the current implementation of the Mochi Mayhem event, that isn’t so.
1 and 2) the Scarlet and Violet Cases, which have actually been in the data since The Teal Mask
3) the Blueberry Case (Black), which you will be able to get from Kieran by defeating him at the clubroom after the Epilogue
4) the Neo-Kitakami Case which is a black-and-magenta themed case depicting the stylized “ogre” from the Ogerpon myth signboards
However, only the Black Blueberry Case has a method for obtaining it already programmed in. If the Epilogue update comes purely as-is, that would leave the Scarlet / Violet and Neo-Kitakami Cases unobtainable by any means, other than perhaps a wi-fi or serial code distribution. But I would think the Scarlet / Violet Cases would make sense as a final gift from Briar, who has just such a case applied to her own Rotom Phone, and who did kind of just vanish unceremoniously from the story after we obtained her book. Meanwhile, I feel like the Neo-Kitakami Case would probably be a reward for finishing the Epilogue, but at least judging from the current implementation of the Mochi Mayhem event, that isn’t so.
yes it’s just like HJK if used against ghost types.
I'm still catching up on this thread (on 484 of 510 lol) but I was deep in the sheets for a few days but I made my usual list of TM LOSSES. To be clear: This means that a Pokémon LEARNED A MOVE BY TM OR TUTOR which obviously excludes like, someone who got a move by Egg or something but doesn't get it by TM now.
Aerial Ace:
Porygon
Porygon2
Registeel
Porygon-Z
Regigigas
Take Down:
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Exeggcute
Horsea
Seadra
Mud-Slap:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Electabuzz
Magmar
Skarmory
Tyrogue
Hitmontop
Elekid
Magby
Entei
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Treecko
Grovyle
Sceptile
Torchic
Combusken
Metang
Regirock
Regice
Registeel
Latias
Latios
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Electivire
Magmortar
Regigigas
Air Cutter:
Doduo
Dodrio
Dragon Tail:
Blastoise
Rhydon
Tailwind:
Cottonee
Aura Sphere:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Amnesia:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Body Slam:
Totodile
Croconaw
Treecko
Grovyle
Plusle
Minun
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Metronome:
REGAIN:
Electabuzz
Magmar
Avalanche:
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Dig:
Raikou
Suicune
Nasty Plot:
Deoxys-Defense (can still get by form change)
Swift:
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Snubbull
Granbull
Rampardos
Rock Tomb:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Fling:
Gloom
Milcery
Sunny Day:
Suicune
Reflect:
Bulbasaur (already lost pre-SV)
Ivysaur (already lost pre-SV)
Venusaur (already lost pre-SV)
Squirtle (already lost pre-SV)
Wartortle (already lost pre-SV)
Blastoise (already lost pre-SV)
Oddish (already lost pre-SV)
Gloom (already lost pre-SV)
Vileplume (already lost pre-SV)
Tentacool (already lost pre-SV)
Tentacruel (already lost pre-SV)
Doduo (last: LGPE)
Dodrio (last: LGPE)
Electabuzz (already lost pre-SV)
Porygon (already lost pre-SV)
Snubbull
Granbull
Entei
Suicune
Light Screen:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Waterfall:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Thunder Wave:
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Solgaleo
Lunala
Necrozma
Taunt:
Deoxys (regular) (can still get by form change)
Dragon Pulse:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Feraligatr
Earthquake:
Tyrogue
Trick Room:
Exeggcute
Solar Beam:
Lapras (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Trapinch
Bulldoze:
Blastoise
Raikou
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-Oh
False Swipe:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Drain Punch:
Gloom
Vileplume
Dazzling Gleam:
Oddish
Gloom
Rock Slide:
Squirtle (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Wartortle (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Sludge Bomb:
Drilbur
Excadrill
Giga Impact:
Rhyhorn (may have only had for PLA)
Outrage:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Stomping Tantrum:
Duraludon
Iron Defense:
Deoxys (regular) (can still get by form change)
Deoxys-Attack (can still get by form change)
Deoxys-Speed (can still get by form change)
Toxic:
Exeggutor-Alola
Snivy
Servine
Serperior
Tepig
Pignite
Emboar
Blitzle
Zebstrika
Drilbur
Excadrill
Cottonee
Whimsicott
Scraggy
Scrafty
Minccino
Cinccino
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Joltik
Galvantula
Golett
Golurk
Cobalion
Terrakion
Virizion
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem
Keldeo
Espurr
Meowstic
Inkay
Malamar
Litten
Torracat
Incineroar
Popplio
Brionne
Primarina
Pikipek
Trumbeak
Toucannon
Dewpider
Araquanid
Comfey
Minior
Solgaleo
Lunala
Necrozma
REGAIN TOXIC:
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Gravity:
Exeggcute
Knock Off:
Cottonee
Whimsicott
Spite:
Rhyhorn
Rhydon
Cranidos
Rampardos
Rhyperior
Scraggy
Focus Punch:
Hitmonlee
Treecko
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Roar:
Lapras
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Lunala
Scald:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Horsea
Seadra
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Mudkip
Marshtomp
Swampert
Keldeo
Popplio
Brionne
Primarina
Dewpider
Araquanid
Uproar:
Magby
Solar Blade:
Grovyle
Psych Up:
Magnemite
Magneton
Chansey
Porygon
Cleffa
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpluff
Murkrow
Sneasel
Porygon2
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Poochyena
Mightyena
Volbeat
Swablu
Altaria
Regirock
Regice
Registeel
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Drifloon
Drifblim
Happiny
Spiritomb
Weavile
Magnezone
Porygon-Z
Rotom
Regigigas
Giratina
Alomomola
Fennekin
Braixen
Vivillon
Minior
Lost previously:
Mankey
Primeape
Snorlax
Double-Edge:
Charmander
Charmeleon
Pikachu
Raichu
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Venonat
Bellsprout
Weepinbell
Victreebel
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Magnemite
Magneton
Shellder
Cloyster
Gengar
Exeggcute
Horsea
Seadra
Scyther
Zapdos
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Hoothoot
Spinarak
Ariados
Pichu
Cleffa
Bellossom
Slowking
Misdreavus
Sneasel
Slugma
Magcargo
Delibird
Skarmory
Tyrogue
Treecko
Grovyle
Wingull
Pelipper
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Surskit
Masquerain
Shroomish
Breloom
Slakoth
Azurill
Sableye
Meditite
Medicham
Plusle
Minun
Gulpin
Spoink
Grumpig
Trapinch
Vibrava
Cacnea
Cacturne
Swablu
Shuppet
Banette
Duskull
Dusclops
Snorunt
Glalie
Luvdisc
Regice
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Endeavor:
Happiny
Keldeo
Vivillon
Passimian
Whirlpool:
Rhydon
Snorlax
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Sentret
Furret
Sneasel
Tyranitar
Makuhita
Hariyama
Azurill
Latios
Rampardos
Garchomp
Munchlax
Weavile
Rhyperior
Arceus
Muddy Water:
Larvitar
Pupitar
Azurill
Electroweb:
Spewpa
Vivillon
Coaching:
Kubfu
Future Sight:
Raichu-Alola
Psyduck
Slowpoke
Slowpoke-Galar
Slowbro-Galar
Lapras
Marill
Azumarill
Delibird
Indeedee
Indeedee-F
Expanding Force:
Indeedee-F
Breaking Swipe:
Necrozma
Curse:
Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Ekans
Arbok
Pikachu
Raichu
Clefairy
Clefable
Vulpix
Ninetales
Jigglypuff
Wigglytuff
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Venonat
Venomoth
Meowth
Persian
Psyduck
Golduck
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Bellsprout
Weepinbell
Victreebel
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Magnemite
Magneton
Doduo
Dodrio
Shellder
Cloyster
Voltorb
Hitmonlee
Hitmonchan
Chansey
Horsea
Seadra
Scyther
Electabuzz
Gyarados
Porygon
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Sentret
Furret
Hoothoot
Spinarak
Ariados
Pichu
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Mareep
Flaaffy
Ampharos
Bellossom
Marill
Azumarill
Politoed
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpluff
Aipom
Yanma
Murkrow
Girafarig
Gligar
Sneasel
Teddiursa
Ursaring
Delibird
Houndour
Houndoom
Kingdra
Porygon2
Tyrogue
Hitmontop
Elekid
Blissey
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Ho-Oh
Porygon
Porygon2
Registeel
Porygon-Z
Regigigas
Take Down:
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Exeggcute
Horsea
Seadra
Mud-Slap:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Electabuzz
Magmar
Skarmory
Tyrogue
Hitmontop
Elekid
Magby
Entei
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Treecko
Grovyle
Sceptile
Torchic
Combusken
Metang
Regirock
Regice
Registeel
Latias
Latios
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Electivire
Magmortar
Regigigas
Air Cutter:
Doduo
Dodrio
Dragon Tail:
Blastoise
Rhydon
Tailwind:
Cottonee
Aura Sphere:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Amnesia:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Body Slam:
Totodile
Croconaw
Treecko
Grovyle
Plusle
Minun
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Metronome:
REGAIN:
Electabuzz
Magmar
Avalanche:
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Dig:
Raikou
Suicune
Nasty Plot:
Deoxys-Defense (can still get by form change)
Swift:
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Snubbull
Granbull
Rampardos
Rock Tomb:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Fling:
Gloom
Milcery
Sunny Day:
Suicune
Reflect:
Bulbasaur (already lost pre-SV)
Ivysaur (already lost pre-SV)
Venusaur (already lost pre-SV)
Squirtle (already lost pre-SV)
Wartortle (already lost pre-SV)
Blastoise (already lost pre-SV)
Oddish (already lost pre-SV)
Gloom (already lost pre-SV)
Vileplume (already lost pre-SV)
Tentacool (already lost pre-SV)
Tentacruel (already lost pre-SV)
Doduo (last: LGPE)
Dodrio (last: LGPE)
Electabuzz (already lost pre-SV)
Porygon (already lost pre-SV)
Snubbull
Granbull
Entei
Suicune
Light Screen:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Waterfall:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Thunder Wave:
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Solgaleo
Lunala
Necrozma
Taunt:
Deoxys (regular) (can still get by form change)
Dragon Pulse:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Feraligatr
Earthquake:
Tyrogue
Trick Room:
Exeggcute
Solar Beam:
Lapras (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Trapinch
Bulldoze:
Blastoise
Raikou
Suicune
Lugia
Ho-Oh
False Swipe:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Drain Punch:
Gloom
Vileplume
Dazzling Gleam:
Oddish
Gloom
Rock Slide:
Squirtle (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Wartortle (pretty sure it was lost previously)
Sludge Bomb:
Drilbur
Excadrill
Giga Impact:
Rhyhorn (may have only had for PLA)
Outrage:
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Stomping Tantrum:
Duraludon
Iron Defense:
Deoxys (regular) (can still get by form change)
Deoxys-Attack (can still get by form change)
Deoxys-Speed (can still get by form change)
Toxic:
Exeggutor-Alola
Snivy
Servine
Serperior
Tepig
Pignite
Emboar
Blitzle
Zebstrika
Drilbur
Excadrill
Cottonee
Whimsicott
Scraggy
Scrafty
Minccino
Cinccino
Solosis
Duosion
Reuniclus
Joltik
Galvantula
Golett
Golurk
Cobalion
Terrakion
Virizion
Reshiram
Zekrom
Kyurem
Keldeo
Espurr
Meowstic
Inkay
Malamar
Litten
Torracat
Incineroar
Popplio
Brionne
Primarina
Pikipek
Trumbeak
Toucannon
Dewpider
Araquanid
Comfey
Minior
Solgaleo
Lunala
Necrozma
REGAIN TOXIC:
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Gravity:
Exeggcute
Knock Off:
Cottonee
Whimsicott
Spite:
Rhyhorn
Rhydon
Cranidos
Rampardos
Rhyperior
Scraggy
Focus Punch:
Hitmonlee
Treecko
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Roar:
Lapras
Lugia
Ho-Oh
Lunala
Scald:
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Horsea
Seadra
Totodile
Croconaw
Feraligatr
Mudkip
Marshtomp
Swampert
Keldeo
Popplio
Brionne
Primarina
Dewpider
Araquanid
Uproar:
Magby
Solar Blade:
Grovyle
Psych Up:
Magnemite
Magneton
Chansey
Porygon
Cleffa
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpluff
Murkrow
Sneasel
Porygon2
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Poochyena
Mightyena
Volbeat
Swablu
Altaria
Regirock
Regice
Registeel
Kyogre
Groudon
Rayquaza
Drifloon
Drifblim
Happiny
Spiritomb
Weavile
Magnezone
Porygon-Z
Rotom
Regigigas
Giratina
Alomomola
Fennekin
Braixen
Vivillon
Minior
Lost previously:
Mankey
Primeape
Snorlax
Double-Edge:
Charmander
Charmeleon
Pikachu
Raichu
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Venonat
Bellsprout
Weepinbell
Victreebel
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Slowpoke
Slowbro
Magnemite
Magneton
Shellder
Cloyster
Gengar
Exeggcute
Horsea
Seadra
Scyther
Zapdos
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Hoothoot
Spinarak
Ariados
Pichu
Cleffa
Bellossom
Slowking
Misdreavus
Sneasel
Slugma
Magcargo
Delibird
Skarmory
Tyrogue
Treecko
Grovyle
Wingull
Pelipper
Ralts
Kirlia
Gardevoir
Surskit
Masquerain
Shroomish
Breloom
Slakoth
Azurill
Sableye
Meditite
Medicham
Plusle
Minun
Gulpin
Spoink
Grumpig
Trapinch
Vibrava
Cacnea
Cacturne
Swablu
Shuppet
Banette
Duskull
Dusclops
Snorunt
Glalie
Luvdisc
Regice
Deoxys
Deoxys-Attack
Deoxys-Defense
Deoxys-Speed
Endeavor:
Happiny
Keldeo
Vivillon
Passimian
Whirlpool:
Rhydon
Snorlax
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Sentret
Furret
Sneasel
Tyranitar
Makuhita
Hariyama
Azurill
Latios
Rampardos
Garchomp
Munchlax
Weavile
Rhyperior
Arceus
Muddy Water:
Larvitar
Pupitar
Azurill
Electroweb:
Spewpa
Vivillon
Coaching:
Kubfu
Future Sight:
Raichu-Alola
Psyduck
Slowpoke
Slowpoke-Galar
Slowbro-Galar
Lapras
Marill
Azumarill
Delibird
Indeedee
Indeedee-F
Expanding Force:
Indeedee-F
Breaking Swipe:
Necrozma
Curse:
Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Squirtle
Wartortle
Blastoise
Ekans
Arbok
Pikachu
Raichu
Clefairy
Clefable
Vulpix
Ninetales
Jigglypuff
Wigglytuff
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Venonat
Venomoth
Meowth
Persian
Psyduck
Golduck
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Bellsprout
Weepinbell
Victreebel
Tentacool
Tentacruel
Magnemite
Magneton
Doduo
Dodrio
Shellder
Cloyster
Voltorb
Hitmonlee
Hitmonchan
Chansey
Horsea
Seadra
Scyther
Electabuzz
Gyarados
Porygon
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
Dratini
Dragonair
Dragonite
Sentret
Furret
Hoothoot
Spinarak
Ariados
Pichu
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Mareep
Flaaffy
Ampharos
Bellossom
Marill
Azumarill
Politoed
Hoppip
Skiploom
Jumpluff
Aipom
Yanma
Murkrow
Girafarig
Gligar
Sneasel
Teddiursa
Ursaring
Delibird
Houndour
Houndoom
Kingdra
Porygon2
Tyrogue
Hitmontop
Elekid
Blissey
Raikou
Entei
Suicune
Ho-Oh
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This reminds me that they had early competitions to get Pokeball, Great Ball and Ultra Ball backpacks but never did one for a Master Ball. I wonder if that's even in the code at this point?
Also was going to say that probably not, just because the bug patch update was noted to be 3.0.1 and serebii said it would come "late January", but the notice does specify "mid-January (or later)". 11th is close enough, I suppose, unless its just meant to be a "silent" update that doesn't tick anything beyond saying "you can do this now"
Some of these losses are really scattershot. Like a handful of pre-evolutions lost a handful of things I assume their evolutions retain, or stuff like Vileplume lost Drain Punch but Bellossom kept it. The legends losing Thunder Wave. The weird Swift exclusions for a move that's generally near universal.
Mystical Fire also got killed in a cartel shootout in Jalisco, didn't it? I recall the Latis had it.
I believe mattgcn's list is looking at it from the perspective of "this is currently a TM, but can no longer get it"
Mystical Fire isn't a TM and that wa sthe only way a number of Pokemon could get it.
Does anyone have a good resource / text dump for all the dialogue in the game yet? I'm curious to look up all the conditional dialogue (for things like the gym leaders in the club room reacting to you picking them as your favorite in the base game).
Also in the process of making a comprehensive list of all special dialogue conditions if anyone would like to share lesser known examples! (like I think it's pretty well known that Kieran reacts to you having Ogrepon in his battle, things like that).
Also in the process of making a comprehensive list of all special dialogue conditions if anyone would like to share lesser known examples! (like I think it's pretty well known that Kieran reacts to you having Ogrepon in his battle, things like that).
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Abcboy#Text_dumps has been updated to 3.0.0 for a while and also covers all the other games incidentally.
Amazing thank you! The Poke Corpus tool in here is exactly what I was hoping to find (huge relief)
As far as I can tell from searching through some of the common text dumps for previous versions, there never was a Master Ball backpack in the code. Was a distribution for one ever announced? I could believe it being something that was planned to be added but then canceled, but I always figured the Ball-themed backpacks were a parallel to the similar Ball Guy Shirt distributions in Gen 8 (which also only had Poké, Great, and Ultra Ball variants)
Realistically, I’m not actually expecting any other content besides what’s already in the code, but these little loose ends make me wonder.
Hi all, sorry if I've missed it, but do we know definitively that the Charm Mark stacks with Title Power?
well, more stuff (source:
EDIT 1: more stuff, but this time from light
well, well, well
I mean as centro says that's nothing new, we've known about those since the item dumps.
My read of it is they were probably meant for some scrapped base game interaction with our raidons. Maybe they would have been the original way of reaching the Apex Form from an earlier version of the story, or something to that effect.
My read of it is they were probably meant for some scrapped base game interaction with our raidons. Maybe they would have been the original way of reaching the Apex Form from an earlier version of the story, or something to that effect.
Still wonder if we might see that "customized distribution" (possibly the "pkhex lite" thing, considering what it seemed to cover) for Pokemon Day or something, or if it was just scrapped entirely like whatever the plan for these items were or the Heath interaction.
From what we can gleam the actual gift would be made elsewhere and then you'd download it in the game, so it's something they could throw a site up for. Maybe they just shove it into the next games.
From what we can gleam the actual gift would be made elsewhere and then you'd download it in the game, so it's something they could throw a site up for. Maybe they just shove it into the next games.