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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
- Thread starter DHR-107
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Do we know what stat each of sub legendaries lower? I know the leopard lowers defence but I don't know the others.
If brevity is the soul of wit, then these new move names sound dumb as fuck.
Between this and Stone Axe, I reckon BH is going to be pretty interesting as far as hazards go. In particular, Spikes Regigigas running Ceaseless Edge instead seems like a worthwhile change unless they sub lol
and then you run tidy up instead of shift gear for extra insanity
284: Vessel of Ruin - the deer - special attack
285: Sword of Ruin - the leopard - defense
286: Tablets of Ruin - the...snail, i think - attack
287: Beads of Ruin - the fish - special defense
i might have the snail & fish mixed up
oh i didnt think to check what happened with Power Shift!
829:
The user swaps its Attack and Defense stats.
oh its ... literally just Power Trick. Alright, thought they might have just snapped it in that case.
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous vessel lowers the
Sp. Atk stats of all Pokémon except itself.
285:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous sword lowers the
Defense stats of all Pokémon except itself.
286:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous wooden tablets
lowers the Attack stats of all Pokémon except itself.
287:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous beads lowers the
Sp. Def stats of all Pokémon except itself.
I suspect people skimmed and misread "sp def" as "speed"
829:
The user swaps its Attack and Defense stats.
oh its ... literally just Power Trick. Alright, thought they might have just snapped it in that case.
284:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous vessel lowers the
Sp. Atk stats of all Pokémon except itself.
285:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous sword lowers the
Defense stats of all Pokémon except itself.
286:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous wooden tablets
lowers the Attack stats of all Pokémon except itself.
287:
The power of the Pokémon’s ruinous beads lowers the
Sp. Def stats of all Pokémon except itself.
I suspect people skimmed and misread "sp def" as "speed"
The Grass/Dark Snail definitely has the Tablet one, because it has tablets on its shell. This one lowers Attack (lol)
The other two are a bit confusing, but I think the Ground/Dark Deer gets the Beads one, which lowers SpDef, and the Fire/Dark Fish gets the Vessel one, which lowers SpAtk.
Might be the other way around for the last two, but that's because their details are hard to decipher imo.
Edit: Yeah if those stats or real, swap the Deer and Fish ability.
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The doc is fully majed, you can see easily every moves and abilities, from PLA and SV ! There's some juicy ones.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1ijn8Im8kU0QnjNyi3AJ6a5feM/edit#gid=608731877.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1ijn8Im8kU0QnjNyi3AJ6a5feM/edit#gid=608731877.
It still does damage to everything but Ice types?
BST got leaked. Source is 4chan so treat with a grain of salt.
https://pastebin.com/6nMdHuZM
https://pastebin.com/6nMdHuZM
Yeah, even before this i was already thinking snow almost certainly replaced hail very thoroughly. Any Ability that's set or interacted with hail has been more themed towards snow. SNOW Warning. SNOW Cloak. SLUSH Rush. Frankly I'm surprised the move Hail is still present in the code at all, I was thinking it was possible the move was outright turned into Snowscape to the point where anything that knows Hail and gets brought in via Home instead knows Snowscape.View attachment 464270
just a pointless confirmation that Snow Warning does, indeed, summon snow and not hail
...makes sense after all... it's SNOW warning....
So Victory Dance is Physical Quiver Dance then. Awesome.
wait what happened to bitter malice
lol shelter just iron defense
wait what happened to bitter malice
lol shelter just iron defense
Is Chien-Pao the Ice/Dark snow leopard? In that case, it wouldn't surprise me if Weavile became BL. A remarkably goofy sequence of words to anybody playing OU prior to today
The second coming of talonflame but no priority and it's electric
Based on this Kingambit has base 50 speed which is 20 points lower from Bisharp which means it'll be slower like some of us have predicted since in the image Kingambit is sitting down. (Still some nice stats TBH, I think it's balanced enough from a stats perspective)
- Kingambit 100/135/120/60/85/50
So we can't be sure ?